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  1. #561
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolenn View Post
    What an idiotic thing to say LOL
    Read that quote again bud lol

  2. #562
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubenwolf View Post
    Exactly my feeling.
    I'm secretly pleased. Shadowlands won't be interfering with Destiny 2's New Light

  3. #563
    Quote Originally Posted by Usernameforforums View Post
    Steam refund is two hours played max. However, if the games a mess there have been special exceptions like wolcen.

    But yeah, blizzard wont go down without a fight for a refund. Everytime ive tried to refund i had to go through like 3 tickets and a live chat.

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    How are they breaking the law?
    Not true.

    Steam standard refund is 2 hours, no reason needed.

    Steam refund you can do anytime you want if you just say the game doesnt work on your system for whatever reason. As long as you dont do this much ofc. Thats why people could refund it.

    These arent the same rules as blizzard, especially because blizzard doesnt release games that arent optimized for the hardware they say its optimized for

  4. #564
    Quote Originally Posted by Zonnis View Post
    Don't act like a cunt.

    You mean like someone with warmth and depth?

  5. #565
    Since most people understand how corporations work and quarterly expectations/projections work it will release before xmas for sure, very likely end of November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazr View Post
    You mean like someone with warmth and depth?
    Ok that is hilarious haha.
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  6. #566
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Not true.

    Steam standard refund is 2 hours, no reason needed.

    Steam refund you can do anytime you want if you just say the game doesnt work on your system for whatever reason. As long as you dont do this much ofc. Thats why people could refund it.

    These arent the same rules as blizzard, especially because blizzard doesnt release games that arent optimized for the hardware they say its optimized for
    Whats not true? The steam refund? You explained it exactly as i said except you added “anytime you want”.

    And i agreed with the blizzard shit. Aint gonna repeat my experience with blizzard refunds.
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    How the fuck is this trolling?

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  7. #567
    Quote Originally Posted by dadwald View Post
    lol breaking the law? What law?
    They took money from customers for a product supposed to be launched oct 27th 2020. The agreement allows for a later release date, but it must be in the year of 2020.

    To be honest I have never understood WHY anyone would pre-order a digital download game? there is literally no benefit besides a pre order discount if available. It is far better for you to keep 75$ (or any amount) of your money in your bank account/investments, vs just letting somebody have it. As for the downsides of pre ordering, its now pretty clear, you paid for something you didnt get when agreed to.


    Imagine you buy a car off somebody, you pay for it and say you'll show up on saturday to pick it up. then come saturday they are like 'lol oops sowwy come back in 2 months it will be rdy for you then' you would be fuckin pissed, this is hardly any different.

  8. #568
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Since most people understand how corporations work and quarterly expectations/projections work it will release before xmas for sure, very likely end of November.

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    Ok that is hilarious haha.
    No way Nov. Looking more then likely to Be middle of Jan . If Dec, then it will be a complete shit show. Jan , it will be a more polished shit show

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbatman View Post
    They took money from customers for a product supposed to be launched oct 27th 2020. The agreement allows for a later release date, but it must be in the year of 2020.

    To be honest I have never understood WHY anyone would pre-order a digital download game? there is literally no benefit besides a pre order discount if available. It is far better for you to keep 75$ (or any amount) of your money in your bank account/investments, vs just letting somebody have it. As for the downsides of pre ordering, its now pretty clear, you paid for something you didnt get when agreed to.


    Imagine you buy a car off somebody, you pay for it and say you'll show up on saturday to pick it up. then come saturday they are like 'lol oops sowwy come back in 2 months it will be rdy for you then' you would be fuckin pissed, this is hardly any different.
    LOL thats not breaking any laws.. Products, especially video games and movies are delayed all the time
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  9. #569
    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    No way Nov. Looking more then likely to Be middle of Jan . If Dec, then it will be a complete shit show. Jan , it will be a more polished shit show
    Investors have final say unfortunately, so expect it and of Nov.
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  10. #570
    Investors have no final say lol. Cyberpunk 2077 was just delayed until Dec 10, A SL JAn release i almost guaranteed nowhttp://https://twitter.com/Cyberpunk...176002/photo/1 No way in hell does Blizzard release SL near Cyberpunk 2077 My guess is Jan 19 2021
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  11. #571
    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    The fact they didn’t release it in October is evidence that it’s not going to be a WoD or BfA.
    Tbh I'd rather them just release an unfinished product. They can always work on it while we play it. The balance was good enough and with the squished levels its not a huge time loss to just reroll if you're the type of person that only plays "flavor of the month" specs.

  12. #572
    Quote Originally Posted by Usernameforforums View Post
    Whats not true? The steam refund? You explained it exactly as i said except you added “anytime you want”.

    And i agreed with the blizzard shit. Aint gonna repeat my experience with blizzard refunds.
    I honestly misread your post. Sorry about that

  13. #573
    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    No way Nov. Looking more then likely to Be middle of Jan . If Dec, then it will be a complete shit show. Jan , it will be a more polished shit show

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    LOL thats not breaking any laws.. Products, especially video games and movies are delayed all the time
    it is.

    delaying past oct 27th is perfectly fine.

    not releasing in 2020 they will have to offer refunds

    its basic consumer protection laws.

  14. #574
    https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/statu...45088811126788

    The maintenance is extended by an hour. Maybe the Scourge Event is coming today?
    Most of the time, problems like this arise when a new patch is applied. I'm curious.

  15. #575
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    I honestly misread your post. Sorry about that
    All good. I probably sounded angry with my response. Sorry about that. I have a habit of being raw with my words.
    Quote Originally Posted by TrollHunter3000 View Post
    How the fuck is this trolling?

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  16. #576
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    Like they'll push SL back just because of Cyberpunk.. people who want to play wow will play wow and nothing will change that.

    The general audience for both games isn't even the same, sure some might overlap but thats hardly a majority.
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  17. #577
    Quote Originally Posted by Garybear View Post
    Tbh I'd rather them just release an unfinished product. They can always work on it while we play it. The balance was good enough and with the squished levels its not a huge time loss to just reroll if you're the type of person that only plays "flavor of the month" specs.
    Balance is good enough? You know some specs are doing 50-60% more damage overall than other, right? You know in certain scenarios that number is closer to 200%? You can't honestly think that's "good enough".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguinerd View Post
    Like they'll push SL back just because of Cyberpunk.. people who want to play wow will play wow and nothing will change that.

    The general audience for both games isn't even the same, sure some might overlap but thats hardly a majority.
    You are looking at that wrong - it would become "overshadowed lands" if it launched against CP2077. The media wouldn't even notice SL, no articles, no attention, no free marketing for Blizzards brand.

    As it is an expansion launch isn't comparable to a major AAA release, but to launch within days of one of the most anticipated games in quite some time is a bit foolish.

    And, like many of us have said for MONTHS now, they have a built in ready to go excuse that is receiving a lot of sympathy and understanding - dem ronas.

    To be clear, I agree that the overlap is small - half the people I play wow with don't even know wtf CP2077 is. Wow is quite unique in that a lot of non-gamers play wow hardcore.

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    I hope they delay into January, as I've got another 800 achievement points I'd like to get before Shadowlands...27,000 is a nice round number to start the expac with, if only I raided it'd be easier to get there.
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  19. #579
    Quote Originally Posted by drbatman View Post
    it is.

    delaying past oct 27th is perfectly fine.

    not releasing in 2020 they will have to offer refunds

    its basic consumer protection laws.
    Show me the specific law please. At least in the USA, delaying a product is not violating any laws, especially consumer protection laws .

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    Cyberpunk2077 is one of the Most anticipated games of the year, last couple years actually. There is more then just a little overlap. As with Movies, Video game companies will delay a release if it bumps up next to a Big block buster release. WOW is a 16 year old game They will not risk releasing it so close to that game , and the holidays
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  20. #580
    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    Show me the specific law please. At least in the USA, delaying a product is not violating any laws, especially consumer protection laws .

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    Cyberpunk2077 is one of the Most anticipated games of the year, last couple years actually. There is more then just a little overlap. As with Movies, Video game companies will delay a release if it bumps up next to a Big block buster release. WOW is a 16 year old game They will not risk releasing it so close to that game , and the holidays
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    Blizzard arent really doing it by the books, but if we all consent, which idk how that's possible, then Blizzard can delay as long as they want but must offer refunds.

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