Do people genuinely think the Horde is evil?

[Plehnard]

Arathi and all of northeastern Lordaeron, where humans genocided the native Troll population, with the aid of the high elves.

So that's more on both since most high elves are blood elves now.

[Darth-Piekus]

Technically the High Elves who are now Blood Elves started the whole thing and once they were losing from the Trolls they formed that alliance with the Arathi humans.

[Soon-TM]

So that's more on both since most high elves are blood elves now.

Sure, no faction has its hands clean. Hell, even the author mouthpiece Jaina acknowledged it.

[Shadowferal]

Sure, no faction has its hands clean. Hell, even the author mouthpiece Jaina acknowledged it.

Lol...that makes Gilneas and Teldrassil shine up so much better.

Just fucking own the evil...

[Verdugo]

Lol...that makes Gilneas and Teldrassil shine up so much better.

Just fucking own the evil...

I would if Blizzard gave me the chance.

[Soon-TM]

blah blah

Nice pics, I'm sure it took you quite a bit to download them. But Jaina herself, aka Golden's self insert, disagrees with you. And she's a disgustingly biased Ally fan, so, as we say in Spanish, don't try to be more pope-ist than the Pope himself.

[Dellis0991]

Remember the civilians taken as mindslaves in Vanilla? The horde were always the bad guys.

The RA were bad guys....

[Super Dickmann]

The RA were bad guys....

This wasn't the RAS, it was a random dude. And other Forsaken civilians praise him for it.

[Dellis0991]

This wasn't the RAS, it was a random dude. And other Forsaken civilians praise him for it.

I thought he belonged to RA.....well thanks you fo clearing that up.

[Shadowferal]

But Jaina herself, aka Golden's self insert.

All you're proving is that you're a Silvanus fanboi that supports shitty writing.

[Soon-TM]

All you're proving is that you're a Silvanus fanboi that supports shitty writing.

All you're proving is that you have no arguments so you 1) are resorting to ad hominems, and 2) you haven't even bothered to read my post history regarding Sylvanas. Ouch

[Feanoro]

Sure, no faction has its hands clean. Hell, even the author mouthpiece Jaina acknowledged it.

No faction has clean hands != The Horde and Alliance are equal.

Nice try though!

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It's odd man. Some days you'd have a sound posts with actual points. Other days it's just a disappointing "omg you are just a ______ fan"

I got beta a month and some ago so went over and did the quest line in question and to call that part "scolding" would be "reaching" (the new buzzword)

You have to understand, there's a group of Horde fans that want to feed babies through woodchippers and still be lauded as heroes.

[Soon-TM]

No faction has clean hands != The Horde and Alliance are equal.

Nice try though!

Nice strawman bro, I thought you were above the average Ally fan... How disappointing

[Feanoro]

Nice strawman bro, I thought you were above the average Ally fan... How disappointing

Then in all seriousness, please be so kind as to explain your meaning in subsequent posts when you use Jaina to try to downplay the Horde's acts? You know, the part where @Shadowferal points out Alliance not having clean hands in no way diminishes all the Horde has done, and you claim Golden/Jaina disagrees. How else am I to interpret it but an attempt to equalize Horde and Alliance acts?

[geco]

The Horde are the bad guys and it's very easy to show off.
Alliance Missions are about how bad the Horde is and how much damage they do and you have to stop it.
The Horde Missions is about how bad the Horde is and must be stopped.

If the Horde weren't the bad guys, Varock's cinematics wouldn't make sense. Why would I be upset if they weren't the bad guys?

Then for "both have crushed hands" Yes, but the alliance changed for the better, they no longer make those mistakes and those who make them are excluded.
The Horde on the other hand is only getting worse and they praise those who commit war crimes.

[benting]

if the maw was a covenant, the Horde would canonically choose it

[therealbowser]

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Yeah, BFA pretty much confirmed that the Horde is pretty evil. They aren't always evil and they have gotten better... at least until the next expansion where Horde becomes evil again. Give it a year or two for things to cycle around where the Horde splinters again and the Alliance teams up with the "good" horde to make the Horde "good" again. If it can survive another expansion like that.

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Nice pics, I'm sure it took you quite a bit to download them. But Jaina herself, aka Golden's self insert, disagrees with you. And she's a disgustingly biased Ally fan, so, as we say in Spanish, don't try to be more pope-ist than the Pope himself.

First time I've ever heard of Jaina called as "Christie's self insert". You are trying way too hard.

Frankly, I wish this actually was true (that Christie Golden was biased for Alliance and wrote strong stories biased towards the Alliance) because it would mean we could have some decent Alliance content alongside the mountains of strong Horde stories we've had since Cataclysm. Sadly it doesn't quite play out that way. At least Kul Tiras was kind of fun.

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Oh nice, I hadn't seen this one yet. Thanks!

[omeomorfismo]

Remember the civilians taken as mindslaves in Vanilla? The horde were always the bad guys.

good times, when the forsaken civilians were still forsaken