Cyberpunk Delay Affect Shadowlands?

[Stabbyfists]

This feels a lot like when some unpopular kid is claiming all the things the vastly more popular kid did were in some way to "get at" the unpopular kid. I very much doubt Blizzard has some sort of conspiracy to undermine FFXIV of all things.

Final Fantasy XIV will release patch 5.4 in december no matter what

*Shadowlands launches November 23rd, a week before December*

Yes It might be a conspiracy but these dates are way too close to be coincidence.

Also correct me if im wrong, but I believe FFXIV is on PAR with WoW in terms of active subscribers at the moment so its 2 popular kids going after one another in order to gain more influence.

[Bane-Thunder-God]

Cyberpunk has nothing to do with Shadowlands and vice-versa these two games don't affect each other AT ALL.

[Collected]

Cyberpunk has nothing to do with Shadowlands and vice-versa these two games don't affect each other AT ALL.

I disagree. Cyberpunk is such a highly anticipated game that no gaming company would want to force it's player base to decide which game to play. That's why GGG delayed POE 3.13. They openly stated the reason was the Cyberpunk clash. It will also pull absolutely ridiculous numbers on Twitch which is clearly going to be a concern for any company releasing a new product.

[Yunzi]

Cyberpunk 2077 is the most anticipated game release in history. Several developers, even the ones of Path of Exile, not in direct genre-competition with CP2077, have altered their content schedule around Cyberpunk. Part of the Activision-Blizzard decision to release Shadowlands when they are is precisely that it preempts CP2077, and with good SL content over the months of December and January hopefully those players can be retained even in the face of Releasing the Kraken.

[rhorle]

Cyberpunk 2077 is the most anticipated game release in history. Several developers, even the ones of Path of Exile, not in direct genre-competition with CP2077, have altered their content schedule around Cyberpunk. Part of the Activision-Blizzard decision to release Shadowlands when they are is precisely that it preempts CP2077, and with good SL content over the months of December and January hopefully those players can be retained even in the face of Releasing the Kraken.

The decision by Blizzard has nothing to do with Cyberpunk. They are opening up the first tier of raiding on December 8th and Mythic on December 15th. Cyberpunk falls on December 10th. Path of Exile devs also seem more likely to use it as an excuse because of a tight development schedule that they have been changing this year including a new style for their expansions scope.

[rrayy]

Cyberpunk 2077 is the most anticipated game release in history. Several developers, even the ones of Path of Exile, not in direct genre-competition with CP2077, have altered their content schedule around Cyberpunk. Part of the Activision-Blizzard decision to release Shadowlands when they are is precisely that it preempts CP2077, and with good SL content over the months of December and January hopefully those players can be retained even in the face of Releasing the Kraken.

Raiding starts on Cyberpunk's release date proving Cyberpunk was irrelevant to their decision making process.

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I disagree. Cyberpunk is such a highly anticipated game that no gaming company would want to force it's player base to decide which game to play. That's why GGG delayed POE 3.13. They openly stated the reason was the Cyberpunk clash. It will also pull absolutely ridiculous numbers on Twitch which is clearly going to be a concern for any company releasing a new product.

Well, Blizzard obviously doesn't agree with you. Cyberpunk was irrelevant to them.

[arkanon]

Also correct me if im wrong, but I believe FFXIV is on PAR with WoW in terms of active subscribers at the moment so its 2 popular kids going after one another in order to gain more influence.

Where are you getting wows subscription numbers from to make such an assessment?

[ClassicPeon]

Its hard to come back here and not gloat tbh

It would be nice if people could take this as a lesson not to be so absolutely sure they are right as soon as they form an opinion on something.

[arkanon]

Its hard to come back here and not gloat tbh

It would be nice if people could take this as a lesson not to be so absolutely sure they are right as soon as they form an opinion on something.

what is there to gloat about? That your wild guess was somewhat right and someone else's wild guess was wrong? For all you know, they originally planned to launch it on the 8th, but when CP announced they would release just days later, they changed it to November to avoid a clash. So yeah, maybe take your own advice and avoid being "absolutely sure they are right" when you clearly dont have all the information.

[Stabbyfists]

Where are you getting wows subscription numbers from to make such an assessment?

https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...v-player-count - Final Fantasy's player count hit 20 million
https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/22/f...llion-players/ - Multiple Sources for you

If these numbers are true then unless WoW has surpassed its prime of 12 million players back during Wrath of the Lich King then Its safe to say Final Fantasy could be seen as a threat to World of Warcraft as a whole. It might not be the WoW killer but it is the WoW competitor and it would make sense to tailor its release dates around FFXIV's schedule in order to retain player interest in the MMORPG genre.

Edit just incase I get accused : I am not a FFXIV apologist, I actually subscribe to both World of Warcraft and Final Fantasy and I see the strengths of both games. I love the Size and scale of WoW's raiding while I prefer the depth and world building of Final Fantasy's story. Both games have their strengths and weaknesses.

Edit 2 - I also have played end game content sadly I didn't get my Mythic kill of N'zoth before my raiding team took a break but 11 out of 12 mythic isn't bad. I have killed Savage Shiva and The Epic of Alexander in FFXIV as well. I have every class in FFXIV and WoW max level, geared, and can say safely I have traversed both worlds to completion to form my opinions.

Edit 3 - Also Final Fantasy may have a leg up on WoW in terms of subscribers as its playable on more than just a PC. Therefore you can have access to both the PC and Console market which gives it an edge over WoW.

[ClassicPeon]

what is there to gloat about? That your wild guess was somewhat right and someone else's wild guess was wrong? For all you know, they originally planned to launch it on the 8th, but when CP announced they would release just days later, they changed it to November to avoid a clash. So yeah, maybe take your own advice and avoid being "absolutely sure they are right" when you clearly dont have all the information.

Wild guess about what?

I've been speaking out against people who have been adamant about certain dates. Thats what i would have to gloat about.

I dont know why you keep trying to answer my posts without knowing the context and acting like you somehow caught me.

I think this is the third time now oO

[Nize]

what is there to gloat about? That your wild guess was somewhat right and someone else's wild guess was wrong? For all you know, they originally planned to launch it on the 8th, but when CP announced they would release just days later, they changed it to November to avoid a clash. So yeah, maybe take your own advice and avoid being "absolutely sure they are right" when you clearly dont have all the information.

There was absolutely no way it was coming out in December. They weren't gonna kill momentum for expansion launch to wait a month in a half for season 1 release. Regardless of anything, Season 1 was gonna release 2-3 weeks after xpac launch.

[arkanon]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...v-player-count - Final Fantasy's player count hit 20 million
https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/22/f...llion-players/ - Multiple Sources for you

If these numbers are true then unless WoW has surpassed its prime of 12 million players back during Wrath of the Lich King then Its safe to say Final Fantasy could be seen as a threat to World of Warcraft as a whole.

You gotta read more carefully and learn to interpret numbers:

Final Fantasy XIV player count has now hit 20 million registered users. That includes anyone who has played the free trial, but it’s impressive nonetheless.

For some context, 6 years ago WoW already had over 100million registered users.

[City Pop]

I don't think Blizz cares about competing releases anymore with WoW. But it does suck for those of us who want to raid and also play Cyberpunk.

[ClassicPeon]

I don't think Blizz cares about competing releases anymore with WoW. But it does suck for those of us who want to raid and also play Cyberpunk.

I have a feeling its going to impact Cyberpunk more then its going to impact Shadowlands.

People who raid are gonna raid. Cyberpunk will have to wait(at least for me)

[IndCold]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...v-player-count - Final Fantasy's player count hit 20 million
https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/22/f...llion-players/ - Multiple Sources for you

If these numbers are true then unless WoW has surpassed its prime of 12 million players back during Wrath of the Lich King then Its safe to say Final Fantasy could be seen as a threat to World of Warcraft as a whole. It might not be the WoW killer but it is the WoW competitor and it would make sense to tailor its release dates around FFXIV's schedule in order to retain player interest in the MMORPG genre.

https://www.polygon.com/2014/1/28/53...ounts-lifetime that's the only comparable metric we have to the 20 million registered players for FFXIV.

[Clozer]

I have a feeling its going to impact Cyberpunk more then its going to impact Shadowlands.

People who raid are gonna raid. Cyberpunk will have to wait(at least for me)

Well, unless you raid 16 hours a day for months you can do both.

[Eli85]

Cyberpunk 2077 is the most anticipated game release in history. Several developers, even the ones of Path of Exile, not in direct genre-competition with CP2077, have altered their content schedule around Cyberpunk. Part of the Activision-Blizzard decision to release Shadowlands when they are is precisely that it preempts CP2077, and with good SL content over the months of December and January hopefully those players can be retained even in the face of Releasing the Kraken.

Wait, what? What is this? Cyberpunk 2077 is anticipated, but the most anticipated game release in history? No, that is not even remotely close to being accurate.

[ClassicPeon]

Well, unless you raid 16 hours a day for months you can do both.

If i raided 16 hours a day i doubt i'd have a job :P

I have 2 kids and a fulltime job so my gametime outside weekends is pretty low. I had more time with work from home but sadly we arent doign that anymore

[Zmagoslav]

It might have impacted the launch, which might have been why they decided to release SL before december, but i don't see it as a direct competitor in the long run.

CDPR has become quite a player in the game-development market...
(Albeit we all know it's gonna happen,) i hope they don't fall over like Bioware did.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fanta...v-player-count - Final Fantasy's player count hit 20 million
https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/22/f...llion-players/ - Multiple Sources for you

If these numbers are true then unless WoW has surpassed its prime of 12 million players back during Wrath of the Lich King then Its safe to say Final Fantasy could be seen as a threat to World of Warcraft as a whole. It might not be the WoW killer but it is the WoW competitor and it would make sense to tailor its release dates around FFXIV's schedule in order to retain player interest in the MMORPG genre.

Have you actually read those articles beyond the titles?
Because if you did, and had any kind of insight into the MMO market combined with basic reading comprehension you wouldn't be writing that paragraph.