EA slapped with a €10 million fine by Dutch court

[RobertoCarlos]

Let me know when psychology says everyone responds to the same stimuli the same way.


Oh you mean like an entire game store worth of 30-40 nerds all sitting around someone opening a MTG alpha pack and cheering when there's a black lotus? Or how about 5 actual friends opening card packs in a living room from a booster box they all go in on? You're ignorant and drawing arbitrary lines in the sand and attempting to say one is worse than the other.


Just... like... pokemon...


Nope! Which is why I'd shield my kid from it and tell them to fuck off when they begged for the CC. OR I'd even use it as a lesson opportunity. Let them take a few hits, then cut them off so they could feel the pull of addiction and gambling and force them to cope.

again, whataboutism.

I guess drugs are ok because they are also watching porn.

Logic not making.

[BeepBoo]

I guess drugs are ok because they are also watching porn.

Yes, I'm for legalizing drugs. What about it? Inb4 shocked.jpg

[RobertoCarlos]

Yes, I'm for legalizing drugs. What about it? Inb4 shocked.jpg

Well that is a different point all together. One I agree with inb4 shocked.jpg. But I also wouldnt be for legalizing them for kids, I'd let their brain develop first, mainly the frontal lobes which impacts decision making.

Same as gambling. But hey you seem to think its cool abusing peoples weakness to make a quick buck so I think im done with the convo. I actually have empathy for people so we clearly have different opinions on this.

[Aliven]

and before leaving the court room they have made it back from sportsgame simps being the biggest rmt paypigs in the entire medium.

I dont think name calling people who are abused and preyed upon by greedy, unethical, manipulative companies is good...

[BeepBoo]

I dont think name calling people who are abused and preyed upon by greedy, unethical, manipulative companies is good...

I suppose bakeries are abusing addicted fat people, too. They just can't control themselves, man! Someone stop these companies and save these people from themselves!

[Aliven]

Thats incredibly retarded. First off they are specifically designed to target addicts and second a system shouldn't exist where you spend 20$ to get a grey consumable item worth less than a penny in the same lootbox set as a 20$ mount. Why can't they just put the mount up for 20$? Or at the very least have all the rewards 20$ mounts and you gamble on what one you get. People don't spend tons of money on lootboxes because they are fun they do so because they are addicts or they don't want the 20$ they spent to be a complete waste and so end up spending 200$ to get the only worth while item in the box. And half the time they don't even realize how much they spent because games obscure the amount you spend by making you exchange your cash for a secondary currency.

Oh but lootboxes are meant to be fun. In corporate way which is to use exact color, sounds and shapes to trigger specific regions in our brains. Thats why they are bright, colorfull and with happy or triumphant music.

[RobertoCarlos]

Oh but lootboxes are meant to be fun. In corporate way which is to use exact color, sounds and shapes to trigger specific regions in our brains. Thats why they are bright, colorfull and with happy or triumphant music.

But but pokemon cards! and bakeries!

[TbouncerT]

I suppose bakeries are abusing addicted fat people, too. They just can't control themselves, man! Someone stop these companies and save these people from themselves!

It's almost like people want to give up free will, but at the same time still have it....lol

[RobertoCarlos]

It's almost like people want to give up free will, but at the same time still have it....lol

Whens the last time someone maxed out their cards on cupcakes?

[Aliven]

I suppose bakeries are abusing addicted fat people, too. They just can't control themselves, man! Someone stop these companies and save these people from themselves!

Well yes, because we have eating dissorders in our world. Glad we agree.

And before you do it - dissorder mean you cant control it.

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But but pokemon cards! and bakeries!

I never get a rush from opening MTG card packs. I get sugar rush tho

[BeepBoo]

Well yes, because we have eating dissorders in our world. Glad we agree.

Exactly how many establishments are limited in how much food they can sell someone? Even the disorderly fatasses who walk through their doors?

I never get a rush from opening MTG card packs. I get sugar rush tho

And I never get a rush from loot boxes. Which is rather the point. Just because someone is weak-willed or even has a psychological issue doesn't mean the company needs to be regulated around that. Those people have to deal with their issues individually.

[Aliven]

I think one of the issue here is that the $60 price tag isn't feasible anymore.

Why? Because logic dictates it should stay the same or be even lowered.

[RobertoCarlos]

Well yes, because we have eating dissorders in our world. Glad we agree.

And before you do it - dissorder mean you cant control it.

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I never get a rush from opening MTG card packs. I get sugar rush tho

The comparison is a silly one. I mean they're not gonna care about eating disorders if they dont give a shit about gambling addicts.

There needs to be some oversight into the market of online cards because of how many you can buy in a single sitting with no oversight. Someone will quickly become full on cupcakes and not be able to eat anymore. Someone can open card packs all day and night as long as their is money available

[Aliven]

Exactly how many establishments are limited in how much food they can sell someone? Even the disorderly fatasses who walk through their doors?

Food, compared to video games is necessary to life. So there should never be a limit or shortage of food. Like ever.

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The comparison is a silly one. I mean they're not gonna care about eating disorders if they dont give a shit about gambling addicts.

There needs to be some oversight into the market of online cards because of how many you can buy in a single sitting with no oversight. Someone will quickly become full on cupcakes and not be able to eat anymore. Someone can open card packs all day and night as long as their is money available

Game companies know this. Thats why there is no hard limit on how much you can spend. Which would actually be ethical to do. Even a prompt that say "uh oh, you have spend 30$ in the last hour, maybe reconsider next one?" or something - we have similar system for other things like "you watching this monitor for 3h straight TAKE A FUCKING BREAK"

[RobertoCarlos]

Food, compared to video games is necessary to life. So there should never be a limit or shortage of food. Like ever.

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Game companies know this. Thats why there is no hard limit on how much you can spend. Which would actually be ethical to do. Even a prompt that say "uh oh, you have spend 30$ in the last hour, maybe reconsider next one?" or something - we have similar system for other things like "you watching this monitor for 3h straight TAKE A FUCKING BREAK"

Yeah exactly.

Hell even WoW reminds you to go outside and thats damn activision!

People should be perfect though. And companies should be allowed to take advantage of people if they are not perfect. Makes total sense if you're insane.

[AlmightyGerkin]

But they're not loot boxes they're surprise mechanics

[dope_danny]

I dont think name calling people who are abused and preyed upon by greedy, unethical, manipulative companies is good...

Yeah those poor people voting with their wallets for what is the biggest "funpay minibuy" scam in the industry that its not only more profitable than most AAA releases but sending the message its the goal all games from big publishers should chase is a crowd that should be lauded as the brave heroes they are and not complete fucking rubes that know better but do it anyway. All those guys who spend 2 grand on "muh feefa innit bruv" every other year can't be the butt of jokes for falling for the most transparent habit forming domapine release hustle since the invention of the strip club. Truly they are wise owls we have much to learn from and deserve respect.

[RobertoCarlos]

Yeah those poor people voting with their wallets for what is the biggest "funpay minibuy" scam in the industry that its not only more profitable than most AAA releases but sending the message its the goal all games from big publishers should chase is a crowd that should be lauded as the brave heroes they are and not complete fucking rubes that know better but do it anyway. All those guys who spend 2 grand on "muh feefa innit bruv" every other year can't be the butt of jokes for falling for the most transparent habit forming domapine release hustle since the invention of the strip club. Truly they are wise owls we have much to learn from and deserve respect.

Make sure you remember to tell that homeless guy down your street to get a job

[dope_danny]

Make sure you remember to tell that homeless guy down your street to get a job

Are you actually comparing people spending thousands on drawing virtual sportsball players to feel a momentary jasm of a dopamine rush in their bingbingwahoo games with people so poor they have to live on the street?

Like those are comparable life situations?

Yeah bro, i'm the asshole here.

[RobertoCarlos]

Are you actually comparing people spending thousands on drawing virtual sportsball players to feel a momentary jasm of a dopamine rush in their bingbingwahoo games with people so poor they have to live on the street?

Like those are comparable life situations?

Yeah bro, i'm the asshole here.

Someone doesnt wake up suddenly homeless. Its a life time of battling their addiction or mental health issues and they are met with the same level of sympathy all their life as you give gambling addicts so naturally its a cycle that will keep going on and on. But hey one day they'll pull themselves up by the boot straps like you did!