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  1. #581
    Artist decides to to change butt shots in art owned by them and is slammed for censorship... what a time to be alive.. it is almost like people are demanding the artist be censored to only releasing it the way "they" want the artist to release it. I mean these people get told a LOT of things on the internet and I doubt butt shots were the primary thing they would cave on. I mean the character is still totally sexuallized, still totally the same way in personality and actions.. but... but... the angle of the camera is different.. so its some sort of "they are changing the character" censorship. Like I said.. what a time to be alive..

  2. #582
    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    The game director for this remaster compilation has been with Bioware since around Kotor back in 2003.

    This idea some have started to push that changes to ME2 happened without the supervision of anyone that worked on the original games is hollow, at best.
    To say nothing of the fact that anyone who thinks Bioware just started "getting woke" obviously hasn't paid attention to the last 12 years or so. They've been pretty ahead of the curve on that stuff. I very, very much doubt this was anything close to an executive mandated decision.

    But you know, some people are all about artistic freedom until the artist does something they don't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    I really hope that I won't need to screw around with save editor to fix stupid shit they did not bother to do back then.



    So you heard something, did not check anything yourself, and then came to this conclusion.
    I fucking love internet.
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    You will have Photo Mode, so if you really want to, you can make ALL the pictures of Miranda's butt. That too is pandering to SJW's?
    I just do not Like how they change it so much. I can understand upgraded graphics in a game. Would Love to see a new X-Wing, Tie-Fighter, X-Wing vs Tie Fighter also with new graphics but I want the game every part of it just like the first game some places for every thing, ever mission every cut scenes same game play just as it was made. We do not need people 20 years latter changing what was in the first game. Keep it as it was as it should be.

  4. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream101 View Post
    I just do not Like how they change it so much. I can understand upgraded graphics in a game. Would Love to see a new X-Wing, Tie-Fighter, X-Wing vs Tie Fighter also with new graphics but I want the game every part of it just like the first game some places for every thing, ever mission every cut scenes same game play just as it was made. We do not need people 20 years latter changing what was in the first game. Keep it as it was as it should be.
    wait. wait. are you as passionate about them updating combat, mako controls and a number of other actual gameplay things for ME1 as you are about an angle of the camera for ONE cutscene? because if you are so very upset about changes 20 years later, than you MUST be upset about pretty extensive changes to the first game. right? right???

  5. #585
    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream101 View Post
    I just do not Like how they change it so much. I can understand upgraded graphics in a game. Would Love to see a new X-Wing, Tie-Fighter, X-Wing vs Tie Fighter also with new graphics but I want the game every part of it just like the first game some places for every thing, ever mission every cut scenes same game play just as it was made. We do not need people 20 years latter changing what was in the first game. Keep it as it was as it should be.
    How is THAT changing it much? You still have not actually investigated anything yourself, have you? All the graphics changes alone are way more significant than couple of possibly changed butt shots, there are people complaining right now that the first game somehow looked better, blah blah. How about the actually redesigned combat and controls which will literally make you feel like you are playing something else?
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    Stasis, and then headshot with the silenced pistol. Pew pew!
    The real fun is when you get swarmed big time and then that one phantom sneaks in and skewers your ass for instakill.
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  7. #587
    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream101 View Post
    I just do not Like how they change it so much. I can understand upgraded graphics in a game. Would Love to see a new X-Wing, Tie-Fighter, X-Wing vs Tie Fighter also with new graphics but I want the game every part of it just like the first game some places for every thing, ever mission every cut scenes same game play just as it was made. We do not need people 20 years latter changing what was in the first game. Keep it as it was as it should be.
    You seem really passionate about seeing some women parts...it's actually disturbing.

  8. #588
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Wat? Do we play the same games? I mean the only difference now is that 90% of female characters don't exist to be sexy ladies for horny dudes to fantasize about
    When was that ever the case?`I don't think i have ever played a game where the female characters just exist to be sexy ladies for horny duded to fantasize...
    Do you have any (non-obscure) examples for that? Should be a pretty long list since 90% of the game apparently were that way...

  9. #589
    I don't really care that much about the arse shots, but if it's not a big deal as some are saying then why bother changing it in the first place. I think it's the needless pettiness of it that some object to, not the deprivation of female arse as some are suggesting.

  10. #590
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    I don't really care that much about the arse shots, but if it's not a big deal as some are saying then why bother changing it in the first place. I think it's the needless pettiness of it that some object to, not the deprivation of female arse as some are suggesting.
    It just boils down to them wanting to. Something along the lines of they looked back.. felt it was kinda dumb.. and just changed the camera angle. I mean I feel them on it too. Not that I care to much either because if it was there I wouldn't give a damn either really. I just remember playing the game originally with my brother. We would always playfully predict that when old Maranda wanted something the camera would sink and suddenly reverse the shot to Shep from the ass crack. I mean it was something we openly laughed at when usually the convorsation in game was along the lines of something something save the galaxy.. and then.. why the butt shot? Guess the game REALLY wants me to side with her on this one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmittay View Post
    You seem really passionate about seeing some women parts...it's actually disturbing.
    Its not about seeing womens parts its about change. Take Conker's bad Furday and what they did to that game. How they change that game. You let them change this part they will change more and more and more and more. Keep it true to what it was it is not about looking at a woman but its about change to the caving in to a Idea that we need to change something that was never bad to start with. That' how these ideas start people just do not get it. It will get worse for gameing.

  12. #592
    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream101 View Post
    You let them change this part they will change more and more and more and more.
    Since when do creative companies/people need to get approval from you/fans to change something in their own creative works? It's amusing that these complaints unintentionally have strong undertones of stifling creative freedom and expression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream101 View Post
    It will get worse for gameing.
    Then find another hobby that will remain frozen in time and will never change or evolve with the times and changing social/cultural norms.

    Remember when this shit was commonplace?

    https://i.redd.it/meymap9a3bu61.jpg

    I'm kinda glad it's not because that's some ultra-cringe shit right there. And to complain about BW, of all developers, who have long been one of the studios "leading" the push for more diversity and inclusion in their games, continuing to work towards that end boggles my mind even further.

    I'm just happy they're letting us use the old garbage Mako controls if we want to. Let me remember the jank before swapping to the improved control and wondering how the game ever shipped with controls that bad : D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Since when do creative companies/people need to get approval from you/fans to change something in their own creative works? It's amusing that these complaints unintentionally have strong undertones of stifling creative freedom and expression.



    Then find another hobby that will remain frozen in time and will never change or evolve with the times and changing social/cultural norms.

    Remember when this shit was commonplace?

    https://preview.redd.it/meymap9a3bu6...=webp&e67a1086

    I'm kinda glad it's not because that's some ultra-cringe shit right there. And to complain about BW, of all developers, who have long been one of the studios "leading" the push for more diversity and inclusion in their games, continuing to work towards that end boggles my mind even further.

    I'm just happy they're letting us use the old garbage Mako controls if we want to. Let me remember the jank before swapping to the improved control and wondering how the game ever shipped with controls that bad : D
    Getting a 403 error on whatever it was you linked to, just a FYI.

  14. #594
    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Getting a 403 error on whatever it was you linked to, just a FYI.
    Weird, should be fixed now.

  15. #595
    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream101 View Post
    Its not about seeing womens parts its about change. Take Conker's bad Furday and what they did to that game. How they change that game. You let them change this part they will change more and more and more and more. Keep it true to what it was it is not about looking at a woman but its about change to the caving in to a Idea that we need to change something that was never bad to start with. That' how these ideas start people just do not get it. It will get worse for gameing.
    First they take out the gratuitous butt shots, next they might be promoting varied body-types and next thing you know female characters are almost completely desexualised and end up with a sense of agency! Then what is the 14-year-old pocket-mining demographic supposed to do - watch porn on their phones while they play vidya?

  16. #596
    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream101 View Post
    Its not about seeing womens parts its about change. Take Conker's bad Furday and what they did to that game. How they change that game. You let them change this part they will change more and more and more and more. Keep it true to what it was it is not about looking at a woman but its about change to the caving in to a Idea that we need to change something that was never bad to start with. That' how these ideas start people just do not get it. It will get worse for gameing.
    I'm still not seeing you complain about EXTENSIVE changes to ME1 combat, mako controls etc. which people in general are praising because lord knows ME1 could use combat updates to bring it closer in line to later games (even though personaly I enjoy its jankiness and find it charming in its own way)

    so... is it REALLY about "the changes"? or will you just admit it that its solely about digital ass not being so in your face anymore?
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  17. #597
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Since when do creative companies/people need to get approval from you/fans to change something in their own creative works? It's amusing that these complaints unintentionally have strong undertones of stifling creative freedom and expression.



    Then find another hobby that will remain frozen in time and will never change or evolve with the times and changing social/cultural norms.

    Remember when this shit was commonplace?

    https://i.redd.it/meymap9a3bu61.jpg

    I'm kinda glad it's not because that's some ultra-cringe shit right there. And to complain about BW, of all developers, who have long been one of the studios "leading" the push for more diversity and inclusion in their games, continuing to work towards that end boggles my mind even further.

    I'm just happy they're letting us use the old garbage Mako controls if we want to. Let me remember the jank before swapping to the improved control and wondering how the game ever shipped with controls that bad : D
    First, that picture is a big lie on all fronts. It seems like they took a screencap of a porno that was a parody of Tomb Raider. Second, as long as the gravity on the planets are the same, I'll be happy. I loved being able to floor it and due to a random bug, go flying off in the distance to the point that the game would just kill me outright. I do hope they fix the landscape though as it was stupidly easy to get caught in a non escapable place on the planets.

  18. #598
    Quote Originally Posted by Starscream101 View Post
    Its not about seeing womens parts its about change. Take Conker's bad Furday and what they did to that game. How they change that game. You let them change this part they will change more and more and more and more. Keep it true to what it was it is not about looking at a woman but its about change to the caving in to a Idea that we need to change something that was never bad to start with. That' how these ideas start people just do not get it. It will get worse for gameing.
    You realize you are literally unironically arguing slippery slope?

    It's a good change. It's honestly baffling why anyone thought at the time during an important cutscene, the camera should be focused on someone's anus. It's kinda ruins the cinematic part of the game.

    On top of that, focusing on the butt of the character who's entire character arc is about how frustrated she was to be treated like an object by her father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Legendary Edition not having multiplayer is a letdown, IMO. ME3 multiplayer was great (Andromeda too) - giga underrated IMO. Also fuck phantoms...

    They could have made a whole bloody spinoff game just out of ME3/Andromeda multiplayer itself and it would rock. Taking Andromeda multiplayer and adding ME3 factions in... glorious. Also, fuck phantoms, not sure I mentioned it.
    So the legendary edition isn't going to have the MP? man, that was at least half of the reason I wanted it, now I just might not get it. Was even ok with it if I had to start my manifest from 0 again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    You realize you are literally unironically arguing slippery slope?

    It's a good change. It's honestly baffling why anyone thought at the time during an important cutscene, the camera should be focused on someone's anus. It's kinda ruins the cinematic part of the game.

    On top of that, focusing on the butt of the character who's entire character arc is about how frustrated she was to be treated like an object by her father.
    I'm notgoing to defend this guy, as I think he's qq'ing more about that fact that he thinks the changes are for bioware bowing to sjw whiners, but I can't ignore the fact that when creators start messing with their work later on, it doesn't always get any better. Han shot first, and stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    First, that picture is a big lie on all fronts. It seems like they took a screencap of a porno that was a parody of Tomb Raider. Second, as long as the gravity on the planets are the same, I'll be happy. I loved being able to floor it and due to a random bug, go flying off in the distance to the point that the game would just kill me outright. I do hope they fix the landscape though as it was stupidly easy to get caught in a non escapable place on the planets.
    That style of advertising is absolutely not a lie.

    E.g Nintendo used to advertise the gameboy with shit like this in the 90s.

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