View Poll Results: Special Senate Runoff Outcome

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    18 16.07%
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    37 33.04%
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    3 2.68%
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  1. #561
    Kelly Loeffler is so loyal to Trump she also lost an election in Georgia.

    Twinsies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Agreed. We cannot afford to lose anyone on the Blue side. So Manchin is off limits, and to be placated.

    2022 will be interesting. Way out of left field, I predict a huge swing Blue. COVID "cured", economy on the upswing. Huge infrastructure bill to bring back millions of jobs. "A time of celebration, with Democrats leading".
    I think it depends a lot on what the Democrats try to get done in the next two years with a stacked house. They should focus the first two years on rebuilding efforts and executive orders. Then, once they make those gains in 2022, go for broke. PR and DC statehood might have to wait until then, because I'm not sure Manchin is pro-statehood.


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    haha mail in ballots from deep red county just cut into perdue's tiny ass lead,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollycakes View Post
    Kelly Loeffler is so loyal to Trump she also lost an election in Georgia.

    Twinsies.
    Loeffler as terrible a politician as she is, is still not as bad as McSally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Interestingly, the longest serving Senator is U.S. history was a Democrat from West Virginia: Senator Robert Byrd.

    I don't know how that worked out, nor now another Democrat won a seat. I would always think of West Virginia as hardcore Red. And yet they've had Blue representation for 60+ years.
    You mean Byrd who was famously part of KKK (but would later renounce and work to make amends)? Because the party was still on some weird stuff back then an he definitely fit the bill of you'd expect from WV.

    It is impressive that WV didn't vote him out later in his life though. Name recognition is strong.

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  5. #565
    Please god let Democrats take the lesson away from tonight that regardless of what Republicans say about the candidates that are put up, running on doing stuff for people like giving them $2k checks is a winning strategy. Please god give us stimulus checks and healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    Please god let Democrats take the lesson away from tonight that regardless of what Republicans say about the candidates that are put up, running on doing stuff for people like giving them $2k checks is a winning strategy. Please god give us stimulus checks and healthcare.
    The best take away. If you promise people something they can hold in their hands, they will support that.
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    As a local Georgian...

    HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK can it possibly be that the fuckwad Perdue is finally out of office? I'm not popping the champagne yet but FUCKING YES if he is.
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    Knadra finally just admitting Trumpkins care more about political victories than morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    I think it depends a lot on what the Democrats try to get done in the next two years with a stacked house. They should focus the first two years on rebuilding efforts and executive orders. Then, once they make those gains in 2022, go for broke. PR and DC statehood might have to wait until then, because I'm not sure Manchin is pro-statehood.
    The key problem is even with control, we still have the filibuster/cloture hurdle and i don't see enough dem support to nuclear option it. A lot more bills will come up for vote, judges will get in easy peasy, but cloture is still a fuck, it's the exact reason there is no public option in obamacare cause fuckin Lieberman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    As a local Georgian...

    HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK can it possibly be that the fuckwad Perdue is finally out of office? I'm not popping the champagne yet but FUCKING YES if he is.
    Yup, the GA Perdue dynasty is finished... for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    I think it depends a lot on what the Democrats try to get done in the next two years with a stacked house. They should focus the first two years on rebuilding efforts and executive orders. Then, once they make those gains in 2022, go for broke. PR and DC statehood might have to wait until then, because I'm not sure Manchin is pro-statehood.
    I think the conservative approach, as you suggest above (if you don't mind me labeling it that way), is the way to go. With the possibility of maybe having a razor thin "majority" in the Senate, and the House being so close as well, it might behoove the Biden Administration and the Democrats to do the rebuilding thing. Infrastructure. COVID (obviously). Fix the Executive Branch, and move forward on some policies. And then wait for 2022, win another Senate seat or two. Rebuild a large majority in the House.

    Then go for it all. SCOTUS. DC/PR.

  10. #570
    Georgia will decide if Mitch McConnell or Joe Manchin is the most powerful man in the country, just as the founders intended
    https://twitter.com/julietlapidos/st...291471363?s=19

    Great tweet.

    For those who get excited about say gun laws, you will have Joe Manchin to look at.
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    I don't quite remember, but I think the filibuster can just be axed by a simple majority vote, since procedural rule votes themselves cannot be filibustered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    https://twitter.com/julietlapidos/st...291471363?s=19

    Great tweet.

    For those who get excited about say gun laws, you will have Joe Manchin to look at.
    TBH I have no hopes for gun laws to change until more substantive, systemic change is introduced.

    IE, corporate money in politics-level stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    I don't quite remember, but I think the filibuster can just be axed by a simple majority vote, since procedural rule votes themselves cannot be filibustered.

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    TBH I have no hopes for gun laws to change until more substantive, systemic change is introduced.

    IE, corporate money in politics-level stuff.
    it can be. Any senate rule can be added or removed each session by simple majority, they can go nuclear. BUT do they have the 50 that wants to do so? that's what I don't think they do.

  13. #573
    I would like to see changes regarding guns, but it shouldn't even be in the top 20 of things a dem controlled government should do first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    For those who get excited about say gun laws, you will have Joe Manchin to look at.
    I mean, this is (potentially) a big win, and it stems the bleeding, but I hope people keep reality in check. The Senate may be 50/50, House has an 11 vote split currently so this ain't no mandate for progressive policies, as much as I wish it were. Hopefully we get shit on track over the next few years, Democrats make gains in 2022 including more progressive members, and they can keep pushing leftward while the Republicans fall into infighting between the McConnell and Trump wings of the party.

  15. #575
    Yeah at this point that would be a horrible idea. Let's give the GOP an issue to run on.

    At this point gun control cannot be touched.

    Americans overwhelmingly love guns.
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  16. #576
    Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders let's fucking gooooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinJgh View Post
    Yeah at this point that would be a horrible idea. Let's give the GOP an issue to run on.

    At this point gun control cannot be touched.

    Americans overwhelmingly love guns.
    Guns are not going to be touched... no one is going to even mention it.

    Edit: Actually, let’s see what the dumb fuck proud boys do tomorrow... if they do what they are promising, gun rights are going to get tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Guns are not going to be touched... no one is going to even mention it.
    Agreed.

    COVID. Infrastructure. ACA bolstering. Lots of issues to work on over the next two years.

  19. #579
    minimum wage increases, big stimulus payments to get out of this rut, mass vaccine distribution, public option, actual infrustructure week, . obviously judges. reclassify marijuana as a schedule 5 drug if not removing it as controlled substance completely, not sure the the process involved in that. Seems like an easily achievable good start for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    At this point, I think just adopting the Wyoming Option which address representation in Congress and by extension the Presidential electors and admitting the 2 states would be a huge boon to fixing much of the issues, especially if we can outlaw gerrymandering at a federal level (If that part is even possible).
    Only via a challenge through the courts or an amendment to the constitution. Constitution is fairly explicit that states have the right to run their own elections (as long as they don't violate the equal protection clause).
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