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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You do understand that Sylvanas was trying to have you killed at Nazjatar, Yes? Which you discover in the N'Zoth fight.
    I don't remember that, when and how does this happen? I don't think I saw Sylvanas mentioned in the game at all after war campaign conclusion in 8.2.5. I also didn't find anything on that matter on Wowpedia.
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  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Queendom View Post
    I don't remember that, when and how does this happen? I don't think I saw Sylvanas mentioned in the game at all after war campaign conclusion in 8.2.5.
    During the N'Zoth encounter, visions of the past appear, one of which shows the bargain between Azshara and Sylvanas:

    Queen Azshara yells: We have a bargain, then. I will bring both fleets crashing to the ocean floor, and our champion will deliver the dagger to me.
    Sylvanas Windrunner yells: And in turn, you will have the key required to free the Old God from his bonds... and leave him vulnerable.
    Queen Azshara yells: You wound me, Warchief. After all, I am as dedicated to my master as you are to your subjects.
    Sylvanas Windrunner yells: Indeed. Just be certain that once you have what you need, you dispose of your guests. Let none of the "heroes" escape.
    Queen Azshara yells: I admire your ruthlessness, Windrunner. It seems our interests are aligned... at present.
    Sylvanas already mentioned at the end of 8.2.5 that she made a bargain with Azshara.

    So stop thinking Sylvanas gave a shit about you, because spoilers: She really didn't.

  3. #203
    Imagine getting so worked up over a fictional character, Blizzard really did its number on some players with Sylvanas lately.

    Its good writing if you get people this passionate about something, wether or not you like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melliodas View Post
    Imagine getting so worked up over a fictional character, Blizzard really did its number on some players with Sylvanas lately.

    Its good writing if you get people this passionate about something, wether or not you like it.
    It is just cheesy. The day Blizzard pulls out a Thanos, or at least a Palpatine kind of villain I will rethink my opinion.
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  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    No it is not. Again, I did not partake in any of the Shadoiwlands events. I did not do anything for the Horde Council. Therefore, I did not renounce her. By your absurd logic, I am responsible for the Halocaust, WWII, Vietnam War and all other events despite the fact I wasn't even alive for them simply because they happened. That is now how this works at all. It does not matter if the events happens. I did not partake in it therefore I did not renounce her. Period.
    You weren't around for those, which is the key difference between you and your character and why your analogy is meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Smith View Post
    One of the mods probably picked the loyalist route.
    Clearly, the vast majority was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elestia View Post
    Lol.. lowkey Blizzard telling you Sylvannas loyalist = Trump supporter
    And traitors = Hillary supporters?

    Makes sense.
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  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    Clearly, the vast majority was.
    Yeah..no. That is quite the claim you have there, mostly because you got bugger all by doing the loyalist route, that alone makes your claim highly unlikely.
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  8. #208
    What was the point of siding with Sylvanas in BFA?
    The point was player engagement. Fomo achievements/mounts/gear, x-forging, weekly chests, those are all ways to keep players engaged, built mostly on the loot and collections systems. Sylvanas' choices were a very minor version of those, working on the storytelling system, which the dev team had yet to mobilize for player engagement other than the occasional cutscene.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    Clearly, the vast majority was.

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    And traitors = Hillary supporters?

    Makes sense.
    Lol, there's no way that the majority picked the questline that didn't give you a new toy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Lol, there's no way that the majority picked the questline that didn't give you a new toy.
    All I know, did it on ONE toon for the toy and stayed loyal on the rest.
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  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Melliodas View Post
    Imagine getting so worked up over a fictional character, Blizzard really did its number on some players with Sylvanas lately.

    Its good writing if you get people this passionate about something, wether or not you like it.
    I think there's more to it.
    Sylvanas is one of the few major characters still in the game that come all the way from Warcraft 3 and maybe the only one left on Horde side. She was here for the whole time, and you can't just make her bad out of the blue. Imagine they do the same to Jaina or Thrall? Such major characters just can't end so abruptly. Garrosh was not a major character, he came and went, and I believe was not generally liked person, so I guess not a lot of people believed that Blizz would just copypaste everything from Garrosh.
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  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by Queendom View Post
    I think there's more to it.
    Sylvanas is one of the few major characters still in the game that come all the way from Warcraft 3 and maybe the only one left on Horde side. She was here for the whole time, and you can't just make her bad out of the blue. Imagine they do the same to Jaina or Thrall? Such major characters just can't end so abruptly. Garrosh was not a major character, he came and went, and I believe was not generally liked person, so I guess not a lot of people believed that Blizz would just copypaste everything from Garrosh.
    It seems a little like a desperate attempt to make story, due to lack of inspiration. Throw this long-standing character under the bus, cause reasons.

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    You weren't around for those, which is the key difference between you and your character and why your analogy is meaningless.
    It isn't meaningless. ANd I'll give you another one. By his absurd logic, I am responsible for both Persian Gulf Wars despite the fact I did not serve in either simply because it happened. I did not serve in nor support either Persian Gulf War therefore I played no part in it. It happening doesn't all of a sudden mean I did.

  14. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by Queendom View Post
    I think there's more to it.
    Sylvanas is one of the few major characters still in the game that come all the way from Warcraft 3 and maybe the only one left on Horde side. She was here for the whole time, and you can't just make her bad out of the blue. Imagine they do the same to Jaina or Thrall? Such major characters just can't end so abruptly. Garrosh was not a major character, he came and went, and I believe was not generally liked person, so I guess not a lot of people believed that Blizz would just copypaste everything from Garrosh.
    She was never "bad out of the blue", she was bad since WC3. Varimathras even said that she was starting to resemble more and more the Nathrezim who, by the way, are bad people.

    Quote Originally Posted by rrayy View Post
    It isn't meaningless. ANd I'll give you another one. By his absurd logic, I am responsible for both Persian Gulf Wars despite the fact I did not serve in either simply because it happened. I did not serve in nor support either Persian Gulf War therefore I played no part in it. It happening doesn't all of a sudden mean I did.
    Except you did. When you log in, that quest is already accepted and in your quest log as an accepted quest. That pop-up is irrelevant because the quest is automatically in your database of accepted quests as soon as you log in. So you accepted that quest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elestia View Post
    Lol.. lowkey Blizzard telling you Sylvannas loyalist = Trump supporter
    This folk is what we like to call an "low IQ take", were you try to connect ANYTHING in the world to "orange man bad" in any shape or form.
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  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    She was never "bad out of the blue", she was bad since WC3. Varimathras even said that she was starting to resemble more and more the Nathrezim who, by the way, are bad people.



    Except you did. When you log in, that quest is already accepted and in your quest log as an accepted quest. That pop-up is irrelevant because the quest is automatically in your database of accepted quests as soon as you log in. So you accepted that quest.
    Are you going around annoying players on RP-realms telling them how their playstyle and choice of enjoying the game is invalid too?

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Elestia View Post
    Lol.. lowkey Blizzard telling you Sylvannas loyalist = Trump supporter
    So much this!

    This thread was just about the content you lose/get by choosing one side over the other and some white knights appear to remind people how BAD Sylvanas is as well as all people who chose to side with her. It's hilarious how some people are taking this game way too seriously

    /popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melliodas View Post
    Are you going around annoying players on RP-realms telling them how their playstyle and choice of enjoying the game is invalid too?
    Waving an admonishing finger wherever and whenever you feel fit, with a whole holier-than-thou attitude is a core element of Alliance RPing. You should know by now
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  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Waving an admonishing finger wherever and whenever you feel fit, with a whole holier-than-thou attitude is a core element of Alliance RPing. You should know by now
    And i did it wrong all the time!
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  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Waving an admonishing finger wherever and whenever you feel fit, with a whole holier-than-thou attitude is a core element of Alliance RPing. You should know by now
    Im just saying the horde is responsible for every war..

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