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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Sam Harris just disavowed the whole IDW. Pretty much calling them insane grifters and claiming his previous association was a misinterpretation of a joke. He is now saying that Trump’s effect on people is far worse than anything IDW blames on the left.
    Yet he'll still argue it's ok to profile brown people at airports because of 9/11. Sam at least has the dignity to not get swallowed up by the Youtube nu-conservative movement, but he still has a long way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Yet he'll still argue it's ok to profile brown people at airports because of 9/11. Sam at least has the dignity to not get swallowed up by the Youtube nu-conservative movement, but he still has a long way to go.
    I am at a loss for what these people have to do with ANYTHING in the article I posted.
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    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Sam Harris just disavowed the whole IDW. Pretty much calling them insane grifters and claiming his previous association was a misinterpretation of a joke. He is now saying that Trump’s effect on people is far worse than anything IDW blames on the left.
    Sam Harris didn't even promote the IDW, he only only promoted his personal arguments within the group. He has always hated Trump and thought he was harmful. There's literally nothing new here except that Sam has been over-interpreting recent events and he's been "on edge" lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    I am at a loss for what these people have to do with ANYTHING in the article I posted.
    I'd say hot take factories like the ones found on Youtube and pods like Chapo/Red Scare are almost certainly an example of "elite overproduction" mentioned in the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    I'd say hot take factories like the ones found on Youtube and pods like Chapo/Red Scare are almost certainly an example of "elite overproduction" mentioned in the OP.
    Maybe, but I don't know if they have much power. Though there are plenty in media/journalism in one capacity or another who would I suppose be downwardly mobile but highly educated people. I have heard it characterized that DSA itself is just a jobs program and playpen for said category. The Turchin take is there will be a battle between shut out aspirants and the more established elites who hold power and aren't interested in sharing it. Not that sharing it would be easy because on some level power is a zero sum game.

    Though I'd say the likes of Sam Harris and Steven Pinker have say gone the more traditional route of being court philosophers, Pinker especially has managed to leverage his position well; heck he even got to party on Little St. James Island and Harris too. So I hate to say it, but the closer you get to the former Epstein network the more I'd say you were in the elite.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    I am at a loss for what these people have to do with ANYTHING in the article I posted.
    Because you have me on ignore... you are responding to people reacting to my posts... no shit you won’t know what is going on. Welcome to what defines your character...

    Edit: This is petty... but, let me indulge...

    Don’t you wish you could respond to me... don’t you wish you could respond to me... don’t cha... you thirsty... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    I'd say hot take factories like the ones found on Youtube and pods like Chapo/Red Scare are almost certainly an example of "elite overproduction" mentioned in the OP.
    It’s also just a basic alternative to the OP... it’s providing a contradicting point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    So I hate to say it, but the closer you get to the former Epstein network the more I'd say you were in the elite.
    Excluding Trump... which is literally the point Sam Harris is now making. He mentions this blind spot, as the reason he doesn’t want anything to do with IDW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Sam Harris didn't even promote the IDW, he only only promoted his personal arguments within the group. He has always hated Trump and thought he was harmful. There's literally nothing new here except that Sam has been over-interpreting recent events and he's been "on edge" lately.
    Nope, not according to what he is saying now. Your contradiction of nothing new and over interpretation, is another example of the blind spot he is distancing him self from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    You seem to be confusing establishment Dems with liberals.
    Establishment Dems are Liberals in every sense of the word. Both in their ideological framework, but also frequently by self description.

    What do you believe Liberal to mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    You seem to be confusing establishment Dems with liberals.
    That’s the point. The point is to create no difference between Hillary and AOC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Establishment Dems are Liberals in every sense of the word. Both in their ideological framework, but also frequently by self description.

    What do you believe Liberal to mean?
    A better question is why you think the above. Why do you need us to explain your position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Establishment Dems are Liberals in every sense of the word. Both in their ideological framework, but also frequently by self description.
    Which one is the neoliberal?

    What do you believe Liberal to mean?
    Precursor to communism and socialism... aka the end of western civilization that only Trump can save us from...
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