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    I play on Area 52, a huge pop server. I play on a cheap laptop, and have rural internet. I never had a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    I dont think Wow servers have been top of the line for years . I dont see them putting a great deal of resources for servers on a 16 year old game
    The problem are not the servers, it is the game itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    I've killed dozens of rares and have experienced no lag. Ryzen 2600, amd 570, 16gb of cheap ram and a budget ssd. It's prob a you problem.
    I will say in his defense when you really get people packed in (Mostly for bag guy) the servers can chug a bit, I have had a few where it seems like about a third of my inputs get eaten. This could be a sharding issue, or a georgical location issue idk, and I will say it's not all THAT bad but it dose happen every once in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narwhalosh Whalescream View Post
    Blizzard could solve this problem, but it'd cost more money so they won't.
    How could they solve it?

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    Holy shit, I'd really like to see a video of those people coming here really claiming they play on a "high pop" server and have no (server!) lag when 200+ people on every layer start attacking. You don't even have to be close to the rare, the entirety of the zone is lagging during the fight.

    If that is an issue worth fixing is a different question, though. It would require them to have spare ressources that are unneeded 95% of the time, and in the case of the preevent where rares become active at the same time across all servers and layers you cannot even dynamically shift ressources from one layer to another.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by vincink View Post
    How could they solve it?
    Have more shards with fewer players in each one.

    And to those saying this problem is client side, you are so wrong and ignorant on this subject. The lagg is real, the servers/shards/whatever cannot handle there being x amount of players in one spot Ion has spoke about the issue, it exists, he agreed with the example preach gave in his video once about servers having to calculate too much stuff at once.

    The fact of the matter is, blizzard's servers or whatever it is they are using now are worse than they used to be. It's the same with classic, Private servers don't lag no where near as much when 2 40 man raids came head to head, just go watch some classic 40 v 40 and see what I mean.

    Blizzard know of this issue but probably just don't care enough to fix it or have too much on their plate already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puri View Post
    Holy shit, I'd really like to see a video of those people coming here really claiming they play on a "high pop" server and have no (server!) lag when 200+ people on every layer start attacking. You don't even have to be close to the rare, the entirety of the zone is lagging during the fight.
    Agreed, I swear some people just flat out lie or are really ignorant. Nazjatar was a prime example of this, when a raid group or 2 joined for the world boss, the whole zone goes fucked. Or when people join for the battle for nazjatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easyclassictopkeklel View Post
    The problem are not the servers, it is the game itself.
    I want to agree with this but it's hard, I think it's the layering system they use because the same lagg occurs in classic in big fights too. Or when you change layer/shard you have a second where the game sort of stops as it switches.

  7. #87
    Fucking liars that don’t get lag.

    I run at Max settings so the only lag I get is input lag when a shit load of people gather to kill the rares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    I've killed dozens of rares and have experienced no lag. Ryzen 2600, amd 570, 16gb of cheap ram and a budget ssd. It's prob a you problem.
    What does your processor, ram, and ssd have to do with server lag? Did you even read the title of the thread?

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    Not a liar. I have to admit, on different servers, you have different experiences, it's really weird.
    RP servers have no sharding, hence they laag insanely much, but even between two normal servers, there seems to be slight difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    I've killed dozens of rares and have experienced no lag. Ryzen 2600, amd 570, 16gb of cheap ram and a budget ssd. It's prob a you problem.
    Actually it depends on the time of day.
    Mentioning your PC specs isn't helping the situation at all, as PC specs don't affect game/server lag from hundreds of players suddenly activating abilities all at once.
    If it's during primetime (i.e. around 4pm to 8pm central US time) then there will be lag. Otherwise, the lag is hardly present. That timeframe is primetime for an obvious reason that I don't think I need to specify and I am sure OP just only gets to do it during that time.
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  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by kaminaris View Post
    And networking, yes, if you got shit networking to blizzard servers that could be a problem as well. That would be your ISP fault.
    I think that Blizzard gets their data center connections from AT&T, which means I have a slight advantage, since I don't have to route to/through another service to get to Bnet. Of course, that may not be the case anymore. I haven't checked for a while.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Terminatrix View Post
    upgrade ypur ram and your graphic card. i have a 3 year old comp running on a nvidia geforce 1050 and have 16 gig of ram and have no problem running graph on ultra and no lag
    How the hell will getting new RAM and GFX card help on server lag? Please do tell
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  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by TigTone View Post
    Fucking liars that don’t get lag.

    I run at Max settings so the only lag I get is input lag when a shit load of people gather to kill the rares.
    I'm wondering if maybe it's an add-on, like maybe Recount, Skada or details. I have a 3700x, with a 5700XT and 32GB of ram on a 400/20 connection. And the only time I get the insane lag is around 7-10PM EST when there are tons of people around. So if folks are claiming to get zero lag when there is a horde of folks around, maybe it's possible the problem is in between the System and the servers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Very rare pepe View Post

    Agreed, I swear some people just flat out lie or are really ignorant. Nazjatar was a prime example of this, when a raid group or 2 joined for the world boss, the whole zone goes fucked. Or when people join for the battle for nazjatar.
    Didn't experience this with Nazjatar World bosses, but with the World Boss in Vale of Eternal Blossom. As long as even 1 raidgroup had that boss engaged, the entire zone lagged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pansertjald View Post
    How the hell will getting new RAM and GFX card help on server lag? Please do tell
    Well, the RAM helps.

    If it is on a machine in the server cluster, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminatrix View Post
    upgrade ypur ram and your graphic card. i have a 3 year old comp running on a nvidia geforce 1050 and have 16 gig of ram and have no problem running graph on ultra and no lag
    It is beyond me how many people answer to this thread that do not even bother to read the first post. Holy smokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puri View Post
    Holy shit, I'd really like to see a video of those people coming here really claiming they play on a "high pop" server and have no (server!) lag when 200+ people on every layer start attacking. You don't even have to be close to the rare, the entirety of the zone is lagging during the fight.

    If that is an issue worth fixing is a different question, though. It would require them to have spare ressources that are unneeded 95% of the time, and in the case of the preevent where rares become active at the same time across all servers and layers you cannot even dynamically shift ressources from one layer to another.
    To be fair, the issue also arrises during other occasions, e.g. Korraks Revenge, Nazjatar PVP events or Drustvar in general (for apparently no reason), so IMO it's something that HAS to be looked into.

    Before you account all of that to bad hardware again, try googling e.g. "Drustvar lag" and see for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Actually it depends on the time of day.
    Mentioning your PC specs isn't helping the situation at all, as PC specs don't affect game/server lag from hundreds of players suddenly activating abilities all at once.
    If it's during primetime (i.e. around 4pm to 8pm central US time) then there will be lag. Otherwise, the lag is hardly present. That timeframe is primetime for an obvious reason that I don't think I need to specify and I am sure OP just only gets to do it during that time.
    I already confirmed what you wrote in another post, but it's hard to keep track, so yes: when there are only like 10-20 people with me its not a problem (e.g. midnight during a working day), but e.g. between 17:00 and 22:00 local time it's impossible to do anything.

  17. #97
    I was getting a lot of input lag / server lag until i disabled the option "Optimize Network for Speed" in advanced system options and it mostly went away (especially in Korrak's revenge).

  18. #98
    Anybody who says there is no world lag hasn't seen 80man raid groups get ported out of major cities for fear of crashing servers

    Happened twice a month to asmongold all bfa

  19. #99
    Thrall-EU The server regularly melts at Icecrown rares, especially at Bronjahm and Skadi.

    Quote Originally Posted by bmjclark View Post
    I was getting a lot of input lag / server lag until i disabled the option "Optimize Network for Speed" in advanced system options and it mostly went away (especially in Korrak's revenge).
    It's in "Network" not "Advanced" but thank you, I'll give it a try and see if it helps.

    And the amount of people not being able to distinguish fps issues from lag is embarrassingly high here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galathir View Post
    Thrall-EU The server regularly melts at Icecrown rares, especially at Bronjahm and Skadi.


    It's in "Network" not "Advanced" but thank you, I'll give it a try and see if it helps.

    And the amount of people not being able to distinguish fps issues from lag is embarrassingly high here.
    oh i get 8 second input delays while at 144fps lul

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