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    What is spell power/attack power?

    So, guys, obviously I know what it is, but there's a big doubt here. Well, if you go to WoWhead to read a skill toooltipe, you will find something like "deals 250% attack power" or "deals 250% spell power". But, where can I see my attack power/spell power?

    In fact, it does no longer exist since Legion.

    If you take a look at this article, you can see spell power/attack power was removed on Legion (on the bottom of the web page).

    https://www.wowhead.com/primary-seco...ld-of-warcraft

    So what am I supossed to understand with those skill tooltipes?

    Just asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caramel0rar0 View Post
    So, guys, obviously I know what it is, but there's a big doubt here. Well, if you go to WoWhead to read a skill toooltipe, you will find something like "deals 250% attack power" or "deals 250% spell power". But, where can I see my attack power/spell power?

    In fact, it does no longer exist since Legion.

    If you take a look at this article, you can see spell power/attack power was removed on Legion (on the bottom of the web page).

    https://www.wowhead.com/primary-seco...ld-of-warcraft

    So what am I supossed to understand with those skill tooltipes?

    Just asking.
    You know, you can just google it, right?
    ap converts from agi/str and sp from intellect. 1per1 i believe now.
    If you look at tooltip ingame, you will see that

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    They baked attack/spell power attributes into primary stats.

    Spell power is now Intellect.
    1 SP = 1 Int

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancaris View Post
    You know, you can just google it, right?
    ap converts from agi/str and sp from intellect. 1per1 i believe now.
    If you look at tooltip ingame, you will see that
    I had searched that on net, but I didn't find any response.

    Now I know. =) Thanks for answers!

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    They use AP, for instance, when they wish to de-couple the damage from weapon damage and weapon damage scaling.

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    Thanks about that addon. I had seen that on a lot of streamers but I never before knew which one it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancaris View Post
    You know, you can just google it, right?
    ap converts from agi/str and sp from intellect. 1per1 i believe now.
    If you look at tooltip ingame, you will see that
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    They baked attack/spell power attributes into primary stats.

    Spell power is now Intellect.
    1 SP = 1 Int
    So, guys, this thread came out because I had one doubt about Word of Glory. The case is, on my holy paladin, it heals 2356 p. Ok, I go to Wowhead and I see it heals for 315% spell power). But I don't have any spell power.

    What's the explanation for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caramel0rar0 View Post
    Thanks about that addon. I had seen that on a lot of streamers but I never before knew which one it was.

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    So, guys, this thread came out because I had one doubt about Word of Glory. The case is, on my holy paladin, it heals 2356 p. Ok, I go to Wowhead and I see it heals for 315% spell power). But I don't have any spell power.

    What's the explanation for this?
    Blizzard dumbed down the stat panel because they think we are too retarded to be able to look at more than 5 stats on the screen and dumb down to lowest common denominator. These are the same people that removed PVP vendors because "they won't be able to find the vendor".

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    Quote Originally Posted by caramel0rar0 View Post
    But I don't have any spell power.

    What's the explanation for this?
    But you do have spellpower, there just is no default display for that anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ymirsson View Post
    But you do have spellpower, there just is no default display for that anymore.
    I think that's the problem the OP is having. A tooltip is saying "spellpower", but his character stat panel doesn't show him the stat anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caramel0rar0 View Post
    So, guys, this thread came out because I had one doubt about Word of Glory. The case is, on my holy paladin, it heals 2356 p. Ok, I go to Wowhead and I see it heals for 315% spell power). But I don't have any spell power.

    What's the explanation for this?
    Int(Spell power)* 315% = Healing done.

    As i said, they baked Spell power into Intellect.
    Your Intellect IS your spell power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Int(Spell power)* 315% = Healing done.

    As i said, they baked Spell power into Intellect.
    Your Intellect IS your spell power.
    Then why not just say "315% of intellect" if they are they same thing?

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    You can use the addon DejaCharacterstats to enable more attributes on your character sheet.

    Here's the sheet on my paladin alt:



    As you can see, Spell Power = Intellect.

    My WoG heals for 1458.
    421*3.15 (315%) =1326.15

    That's the base healing done of my WoG, + a some extra healing done thanks to versatility.
    421*3.15 (315%) =1326.15*1.1 (+10%) =1458,76


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Then why not just say "315% of intellect" if they are they same thing?
    I don't fucking know, ask wowhead not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ymirsson View Post
    But you do have spellpower, there just is no default display for that anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    I think that's the problem the OP is having. A tooltip is saying "spellpower", but his character stat panel doesn't show him the stat anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Int(Spell power)* 315% = Healing done.

    As i said, they baked Spell power into Intellect.
    Your Intellect IS your spell power.
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Then why not just say "315% of intellect" if they are they same thing?
    I k
    Indeed, I needed to see my spell power on my character panel, but I did not. Now I have installed Dejacharacterstat and I kinda understand it now. =)

    By the way, intellect is not equal to spell power on my paladin. There's relationship between both but it's not the same. On my pally, 155 intellect and 682 spell power.

    Also I saw the GCD on my char is 1,34 s. I thought it was always 1 second on every characters, which could be reduced by haste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    You can use the addon DejaCharacterstats to enable more attributes on your character sheet.

    Here's the sheet on my paladin alt:



    As you can see, Spell Power = Intellect.

    My WoG heals for 1458.
    421*3.15 (315%) =1326.15

    That's the base healing done of my WoG, + a some extra healing done thanks to versatility.
    421*3.15 (315%) =1326.15*1.1 (+10%) =1458,76


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    I don't fucking know, ask wowhead not me.
    By investigating Dejacharacter addon, I have just realized the spellpower on strength based specs, is related with the strength. The more strength, the more spell power. The more intellect, the same spell power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caramel0rar0 View Post
    Also I saw the GCD on my char is 1,34 s. I thought it was always 1 second on every characters, which could be reduced by haste.
    Most classes are 1.5 sec GCD default. The quick energy classes (among others?) have a 1 sec GCD default.

    EDIT: since you posted again. Ret, feral and Enh has, historically, have had their AP+SP baked into nearly all their spells. I don’t know how they work in a more modern wow, or if it leaks into Holy, nor how Monks fit into that image. I stopped caring about maths when I came back into the game in 6.2.3 (skipped MOP and WoD)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Then why not just say "315% of intellect" if they are they same thing?
    Some specs like tanks have increased attack power. so 1:1 is not correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Some specs like tanks have increased attack power. so 1:1 is not correct.
    Yeh, yeh, I have checked it and that's not complete correct. Intellect is not spell power.

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