Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Shadochi]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

Since nobody else wants to, I'll start with my 4 additions and the base

[Varodoc]

Someone add Alleria and Turalyon, after all half the online speculations are about one or both of them going evil.

Not that it's going to happen of course

[Hugnomo]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

Hehe, we meet again fellow commuters of the hype train. Choo choo !

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Since nobody else wants to, I'll start with my 4 additions and the base

*chef's kiss*
Maybe we could add a green drake in there from the datamining.

[Shadochi]

Someone add Alleria and Turalyon, after all half the online speculations are about one or both of them going evil.

Not that it's going to happen of course

Hehe, we meet again fellow commuters of the hype train. Choo choo !

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*chef's kiss*
Maybe we could add a green drake in there from the datamining.

Will add that to my list

[Futhark]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

Usually there's a teaser for an announcement for the announcement, so it seems early.

[Harbour]

I bet one of the plotlines would be the "Turalyon and Alleria struggle against the opposite nature of their powers and beliefs, where Arathor will play the key role into bringing them together in the end of expansion".

[Beloren]

Just because major characters are elves, does not mean that the expansion is about elves.

When people say they want an expansion about elves, they are not talking about featuring character that are elves, but an expansion that features their culture, architecture or moves their story forward in some way.

The only expansion that really was that was Legion, and maybe Cataclysm. Sure, TBC had Blood Elves, but outside of the starting experience, they weren't really relevant.

You know.


For blood elves, it was TBC, WotLK, Cata, MoP, WoD, Legion (Suramar 7.1 invasion, the void elf and Alleria bits), BFA (8.2)

For draenei, it was TBC, WoD and Legion

For orcs it was TBC, WotLK, Cata, MoP and WoD

For humans it was TBC, WotLK, Cata, MoP, WoD and BFA

For Night elves it was Legion mainly, but bits in BFA and SL

For Trolls: they've had bits in Classic patches, TBC, WotLK, Cata (updated starting), MoP, , BFA

For Tauren: WotLK, MoP and Legion

For Dwarves: WotLK and Cata

For Gnomes: Cata (new start) and BFA

For Goblins: Cata

For Forsaken: WotLK, Legion (warden towers conflict) BFA, SL

For Worgen: Cata, Legion

All the core races had Cata starting, cata only appears above if the main storyline involved your race

tried to only pick ones where i felt the story was progressed for the genetic race (not necessarily always the particular faction of it you play) - alll allied races are progressions of their sire race's even including on the opposite faction.

[Le Conceptuel]

Since nobody else wants to, I'll start with my 4 additions and the base

I earnestly missed this from my old lurking days—I hadn't made this account yet, and the only account I had was very scarcely used, but I lurked often in the Legion and Battle for Azeroth Hype Train threads. I am, to say the least, very happy to see that people are once more excited for these imminent expansions. It's refreshing, honestly, to see a return to form after Blizzard's generally disastrous state—it seems like WoW has regained good will with the hype and Microsoft purchase (though I doubt that will actually provide much fruit), at least.

Anyways, let's get some Yrel in there, perhaps? That, and a reference to a potential world revamp (I still have some hopium), though that's looking increasingly unlikely now.

[Raetary]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

It's never too early to summon the hype train, working on my own masterpiece as of right now.

[Nyel]

Usually there's a teaser for an announcement for the announcement, so it seems early.

They will definitely pre-announce an expansion announcement.

[Beloren]

So I guess you haven't played SWP? Blood Elves were super relevant during TBC lmao.

Indeed we were, and it had our race's biggest and largest character developmment arc.. we've had involvement ever since, in WotLk with the silver Covenant and Sunreavers (same race remember), in Cata we also had developments helping out the horde. in MoP, we were the ones advancing both the alliance and horde against the Thunder King. In WoD, we helped the Draenei in Shattrath, in Legion we helped the nightborne in 7.1 and also sent representatives to Argus, had Alleria's quest chain and the void elves' introduction though they went alliance. In BFA we were in 8.2 with Azshara (dunno why void elves didn't have a larger role to play against N'zoth). But we haven't had anything for Shadowlands.

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They will definitely pre-announce an expansion announcement.

@Futhark is right, it seems too early for an expansion announcement.

[Foolicious]

That wasn't the case in BfA at all, due to various reasons: Uldir felt very detached from everything, BoD - while being a great raid - had the faction-theme and didn't fit into the overarching narrative. Eternal Palace was an okay raid, but the ending felt very, very weak in comparison to the Legion build up of upcoming raids.

I think Uldir was fine for a first raid if you played horde. The raid was the missing ending to your leveling process (Not saying it was a great story though. It had a lot of flaws still)
Alliance players on the other hand where thrown into a raid with trolls and titan things in enemy territory without any reason to go there which was very weak.
Agree with the rest. Especially palace was very weak for a raid featuring azshara and n'zoths release.

[Alanar]

I really like Azshara. Its a shame she wasn't the boss of her own expansion.

100% agree, such a fun vain character and with Denatrius still being out there...and having that same kind of vain attitude.

Imagine this as a powercouple, both wanting the same thing.

[Harbour]

Lets put up the list of most possible themes/plot lines in 10.0 based on previous build ups:

1) Alleria and Locus-walker business (tied to Void)
2) Turalyon/Genn potential confrontation (based on Shaw's recent mistrust) (tied to Light)
3) Scarlet Crusade and "kid of Menethil line" plot (tied to Light)
4) Wrathion/Dragons/Old Gods whole deal and consequences of Nzoth's defeat (tied to Void)
5) Anduin potential continuation of Light/Void duality (tied to Void/Light)
6) Alleria/Turalyon whole interpersonal business (tied to Void/Light)
7) The whole Yrel and Light Crusade stuff (tied to Light)
8) Lotraxion/Nathrezim stuff

Tbh, given that Shadowlands also had significant emphasis on Light/Naaru in Revendreth story, as well as Void presence in Bastion, and all hanged plot guns from before, hard to imagine 10.0 being something not Void/Light focused.

what else?

[BaumanKing]

Someone add Alleria and Turalyon, after all half the online speculations are about one or both of them going evil.

Not that it's going to happen of course

How can Alleria and Turalyon be involved in the dragon expansion? I mean, they fought Deathwing once, but otherwise there is zero connection thematically.

[Varodoc]

Indeed we were, and it had our race's biggest nad largest character developmment arc.. we've had invovlement ever since, in WotLk with teh silver Covenant and Sunreavesr (same race remembeR), in Cata we also had developments helping out the horde. in MoP, we were the ones advancing both the alliance and horde against the Thunder King. In WoD, we helped the Draenei in Shattrath, in Legion we helped the nightborne in 7.1 and also sent representatives to Argus, had Alleria's quest chain and the void elves' introduction though they went alliance. In BFA we were in 8.2 with Azshara (dunno why void elves din't have a larger role to play against N'zoth). But we haven't had anything for Shadowlands.

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@Futhark is right, it seems too early for an expansion announcement.

Lol, too early...

What exactly are we waiting for? A sign from God? The end of Covid? The beginning of 2023?

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How can Alleria and Turalyon be involved in the dragon expansion? I mean, they fought Deathwing once, but otherwise there is zero connection thematically.

It's not confirmed that it's a Dragon expansion.

Besides, the Ren'dorei are what the Dragons strived and failed to be. Creatures who resisted and defied the whispers of the Void...

[Le Conceptuel]

A sign from God? The end of Covid? The beginning of 2023?

You say these all sarcastically?

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what the Dragons strived and failed to be. Creatures who resisted and defied the whispers of the Void...

The Dragons never really sought to be that. They sort of just happened to be corrupted at one point.

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3) Scarlet Crusade and "kid of Menethil line" plot (tied to Light)

You know what would be the dumbest and funniest way of doing that? The Light actually does have him and he's kidnapped from another timeline by the Lightbound. They probably have the technology to access their timeline's Azeroth, anyway.

[Teriz]

Since nobody else wants to, I'll start with my 4 additions and the base

While a very cool pic, Naaru really have nothing to do with dragons or the old gods. That should be titans, because the border of that logo is titan-based.

From a post in another thread;

And of course the "bow" looks very tech as well, like a "teched up" version of the typical curve in WoW logos;



When you compare it to similar sections of older WoW logos, this becomes more obvious;

[Alanar]

I dunno, Legion fulfilled my expectations, and I can say the same about WOTLK, and these expansions were over six years apart from each other.

Actually, Legion hyped me up in every ending cinematic, with a glorious ending conclusion in 7.3.

And the build-up of WOTLK was also really good.

Its hard to give a good awnser to that, because I believe pur standards werent that high as it is now and ofc many things were new. It feels like part of nostalgia tbh. Wotlk did have a better lead up, but it had Arthas and the scourge which had yet to be revealed.

For me with both Legion and Wotlk had great lore that backed it up for the most part. It connected with people and both had their most famous villains in there.
I cant unsee the part that most things in that time were new. I cant help but see a bit nostalgia feeling there.

Not to say they werent good, but also those expansions had their misses. I thought 7.3 was a huge miss and it felt rushed on so many levels. Remember 7.3 was 2d cardbord argus, Argus titan who no one knew about.. titan story was weird,.. pressumed dead and suddely they were alive. Void elves asspull, while we could have had broken or vrykul. The dailies and the gameplay on argus was very borin after a few days. So my experience was differnt. But the lead up and follow up of Suramar is one of the best things they ever made imo. Great immersion and really made it seem the city was alive and brewing, I thought it was brilliant, but not everyone liked this experience.

[Lazarel]

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