1. #2501
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Their exiling was certainly part of Denathrius' tricks, but they were still effectively exiled, or did you just forget that they weren't really in Revendreth (barring any spies in disguise) until recently?

    Denathrius "exiled" them to a world outside the Shadowlands, in other words, Nathreza, and they were eventually found out there and then recruited into the Legion.

    Like I said, the timeline people are trying to put forward, that Lothraxion was part of the initial incursion, doesn't really fit. Unless you can show me something that says otherwise?
    According to the ptr stuff on the front page
    The dreadlords were infiltrating all other forces
    The light attacked
    They were exiled

    This timeline is...fine

  2. #2502
    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    According to the ptr stuff on the front page
    The dreadlords were infiltrating all other forces
    The light attacked
    They were exiled

    This timeline is...fine
    The issue is, Lothraxion was a member of the Legion when he was turned. And that happened long after they were exiled.

    Perhaps he was present at the incursion into the Light, but if he was, that wasn't where he was taken.

    edit: Again, this is what you said:

    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post

    Lothraxion is not manipulating anyone
    In terms of what he’s doing he was discovered and then “cleansed” which led to the light attacking revendreth
    You're saying he was caught by the Light, cleansed, and the Light retaliated against Revendreth.

    But Lothraxion was caught by the Light as a member of the Burning Legion, and relatively recently too. They would've retaliated against the Legion (which they were already doing via the Army of the Light anyway).
    Last edited by Kiivar86; Yesterday at 08:01 PM.

  3. #2503
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    The issue is, Lothraxion was a member of the Legion when he was turned. And that happened long after they were exiled.

    Perhaps he was present at the incursion into the Light, but if he was, that wasn't where he was taken.
    Or they believed that he was an agent of the legion and then attacked revendreth and denathrius was like “yo I didn’t know what was happening I’m gonna exile them”
    While already having his agents out and about

    It’s also possible it’s a slight retcon because we have 0 information about an actual timeline until they provide another book talking about it

  4. #2504
    Until we get some direct proof there is really no way to conclusively state where most of the Dreadlord stuff happened in the timeline.

    Could be that Denathrius sent them out to infiltrate the light specifically, failed, then sent them to Nathreza to join the Void and Fel.
    Or it could just as easily be that due to the relativistic flow of time in the Shadowlands compared to the regular universe or even the Twisting nether that the entire thing of the Dreadlords creating the Burning Legion with Sargeras, then attempting to infiltrate the Army of Light all happened before they were exiled. It's not like the Revendreth war against the light is ever claimed to be something that happened at the beginning of time.

    Regardless, regarding Lothraxion whether the incursion of the light happened before or after his supposed conversion into a Lightforged is mostly irrelevant anyways. His supposed plan depended on an attempt at lightforging him, so at worst the Light succesfully converted him despite his plans to resist or he went through with the plan. When it happened in the timeline is almost completely irrelevant.
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  5. #2505
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Their exiling was certainly part of Denathrius' tricks, but they were still effectively exiled, or did you just forget that they weren't really in Revendreth (barring any spies in disguise) until recently?

    Denathrius "exiled" them to a world outside the Shadowlands, in other words, Nathreza, and they were eventually found out there and then recruited into the Legion.

    Like I said, the timeline people are trying to put forward, that Lothraxion was part of the initial incursion, doesn't really fit. Unless you can show me something that says otherwise?
    Mal'ganis explicitly states they were never "exiled" lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Mal'ganis explicitly states they were never "exiled" lol
    He meant they were absent from the zone.
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