1. #3341
    Could be both. Could JUST be an Echo. Who knows. Goodbye Anduin implies more than a simple Echo.

  2. #3342
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Hey, here's to hoping that still something fatal happens with him.

    Wait until they "kill" Anduin to trick the Jailer so he can come back in 9.2 and backstab Zovaal like Arya the Night King and be THE hero. I totally expect this horrible cliche writing at this point.
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  3. #3343
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Stiven_SR...92130478923778

    Looks like we jumped too fast to conclusions.
    Sounds like just another Thursday in WoW community.

  4. #3344
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Hey, here's to hoping that still something fatal happens with him.

    Wait until they "kill" Anduin to trick the Jailer so he can come back in 9.2 and backstab Zovaal like Arya the Night King and be THE hero. I totally expect this horrible cliche writing at this point.
    Or, they’ll have us kill Zovaal?

  5. #3345
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Or, they’ll have us kill Zovaal?
    I don't think so. A major character will finish Zovaal (or all of them, who knows at this point). I'm still expecting Anduin to do it with Arthas help.
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  6. #3346
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    "Unrealistic" Unrealistic compared to the real world yes but thats fine sometimes we enter a Fantasy world for simple enemies like that.
    Not a good reason to have them. The last thing we need is for black/white thinking to be validated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I don't think so. A major character will finish Zovaal (or all of them, who knows at this point). I'm still expecting Anduin to do it with Arthas help.
    That doesn't exactly rule the player out.

  7. #3347
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    That doesn't exactly rule the player out.
    Obviously he's going to be a raid boss.
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  8. #3348
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I don't think so. A major character will finish Zovaal (or all of them, who knows at this point). I'm still expecting Anduin to do it with Arthas help.
    Why tf would Anduin do it with Arthas’ help?

  9. #3349
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Why tf would Anduin do it with Arthas’ help?
    You can't see the pattern how Anduin has been build up to be Arthas 2.0? It's not like he basically looks like his identical twin. And Arthas is going to appear in Shadowlands, so there's that and we've come full circle.
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  10. #3350
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    You can't see the pattern how Anduin has been build up to be Arthas 2.0? It's not like he basically looks like his identical twin. And Arthas is going to appear in Shadowlands, so there's that and we've come full circle.
    I see the patterns, but I don't think it'll be ANDUIN that kills Zovaal. It'll likely be us when facing him at the Sepulcher. And I'm STILL going with the Pantheons of Life and Death teaming up ordeal.

  11. #3351
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    I see the patterns, but I don't think it'll be ANDUIN that kills Zovaal. It'll likely be us when facing him at the Sepulcher. And I'm STILL going with the Pantheons of Life and Death teaming up ordeal.
    9.1 zovaal abandons Sylvanas and we imprison her

    9.2 we are placed on the defensive after he wins in 9.1 and we must gather unlikely allies including Arthas

    9.3 we free Anduin and Sylvanas sacrifices herself with the line “this world was my prison and now I WILL BE YOURS!!!”

  12. #3352
    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    9.1 zovaal abandons Sylvanas and we imprison her

    9.2 we are placed on the defensive after he wins in 9.1 and we must gather unlikely allies including Arthas

    9.3 we free Anduin and Sylvanas sacrifices herself with the line “this world was my prison and now I WILL BE YOURS!!!”
    Bold of you to assume 9.3 will exist. But this is my theory:

    9.1: Covenants finish, Korthia is explored, we invade the Jailer's stronghold, and we lose.

    9.2: Jailer invades Reality and aims for the Sepulcher, we go to the Gardens of Life (New Zone, or 3 new zones. One of the two) and find a way to help Anduin and whatnot, we meet the Pantheon of Life, we slay the Dreadqueen invading there and figure out she caused things such as the Everbloom, we visit the Dungeon there, etc. The new raid involves Galakrond, the Keepers and Helya do their shit, and the Pantheons of Life and Death defeat Zovaal (Sylvanas likely sacrifices herself), Anduin is saved, etc.

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    Oh, and the Covenants use their new sigils to close the Sepulcher once more, and the final quest brings back the Arbiter and what to do with Sylvanas.

  13. #3353
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Bold of you to assume 9.3 will exist. But this is my theory:

    9.1: Covenants finish, Korthia is explored, we invade the Jailer's stronghold, and we lose.

    9.2: Jailer invades Reality and aims for the Sepulcher, we go to the Gardens of Life (New Zone, or 3 new zones. One of the two) and find a way to help Anduin and whatnot, we meet the Pantheon of Life, we slay the Dreadqueen invading there and figure out she caused things such as the Everbloom, we visit the Dungeon there, etc. The new raid involves Galakrond, the Keepers and Helya do their shit, and the Pantheons of Life and Death defeat Zovaal (Sylvanas likely sacrifices herself), Anduin is saved, etc.

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    Oh, and the Covenants use their new sigils to close the Sepulcher once more, and the final quest brings back the Arbiter and what to do with Sylvanas.
    The cutscene just datamined has a part where Sylvanas’ hood with the jailer’s symbol was the focus….I’m thinking Anduin is telling her off and she’s getting ready for that 180 moment

    As for 9.3 happening I’m just going off the past but it’s always possible I’m wrong

    Why would galakrond be in the gardens of life?? I’m probably missing something but afaik we don’t have any more info about him

  14. #3354
    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    The cutscene just datamined has a part where Sylvanas’ hood with the jailer’s symbol was the focus….I’m thinking Anduin is telling her off and she’s getting ready for that 180 moment

    As for 9.3 happening I’m just going off the past but it’s always possible I’m wrong

    Why would galakrond be in the gardens of life?? I’m probably missing something but afaik we don’t have any more info about him
    Well...

    I'm saying both Jailer invasion and Gardens will be 9.2. Galakrond would simply be Northrend.

  15. #3355
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Well...

    I'm saying both Jailer invasion and Gardens will be 9.2. Galakrond would simply be Northrend.
    I can see that
    He had the ability to make zombie dragons

  16. #3356
    A Galakrond expansion would be cool. That would be a good opportunity to do a Deathwing-style villain but actually right this time. Give him a human form and actually utilize it for the majority of the expansion's story. Have him only take his dragon form during critical events or at the end of his raid fight in 10.3 as an example.

    Still to this day have no idea why they never used Deathwing's human form, it was such a cool design. Imagine in 4.0 storyline with the Twilight Highlands, we have Deathwing come out and personally duel Garrosh and Varian both at the same time in his human form in an epic in-game cinematic? Would have been so cool.

  17. #3357
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    A Galakrond expansion would be cool. That would be a good opportunity to do a Deathwing-style villain but actually right this time. Give him a human form and actually utilize it for the majority of the expansion's story. Have him only take his dragon form during critical events or at the end of his raid fight in 10.3 as an example.
    Galakrond would be the worst character to use here though, because he is a primordial beast that only cares about feeding. Making him what deathwing should have been would just be getting 2 characters wrong.
    /tar Tinker-zealot /point /lol
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  18. #3358
    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    Galakrond would be the worst character to use here though, because he is a primordial beast that only cares about feeding. Making him what deathwing should have been would just be getting 2 characters wrong.
    he was actually smart
    he turned an ambush around on the proto drakes
    he double crossed another protodrake
    he wasnt consumed with just feeding but he did want to eat everyone and that was his goal
    he was able to beat down a titan keeper (i assume because he ate tyrs hand and gained its power)

    he was a big boi

  19. #3359
    Quote Originally Posted by razorpax View Post
    he was actually smart
    he turned an ambush around on the proto drakes
    he double crossed another protodrake

    he wasnt consumed with just feeding but he did want to eat everyone and that was his goal
    he was able to beat down a titan keeper (i assume because he ate tyrs hand and gained its power)

    he was a big boi
    It's been a while, but didn't the corruption get worse and worse the more he consumed his own kin? His final form was certainly not much of a tactian iirc.
    /tar Tinker-zealot /point /lol
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  20. #3360
    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    It's been a while, but didn't the corruption get worse and worse the more he consumed his own kin? His final form was certainly not much of a tactian iirc.
    He got larger but mentally I don’t think he decayed

    His ambush used his zombie army

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