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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Smh

    It's different.
    Where did you get that picture?

    I'm guessing it's the skybox Oribos gets after the raid along with the purple maw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    I've been wondering about these claims to. Outside of some reports of old battles in the distant past and Z'raali, there isn't really anything Light or Void related going on. They're certainly not anything major compared to Sylvanas story in BfA or Bwonsamdi's involvement. BfA had more Void stuff going on than SL so far.
    There's Agthia's Repose in Bastion, still dotted by ruins from a Void invasion, and while you do mention Z'raali, there is the whole Ember Ward.

    There may be others I'm not recalling but I feel that's it. Definitely not major enough (though the Ember Ward stuff is pretty big) but more than you say too.

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    10.0 Will probably be light and shadow themed, possibly dragon themed if they decide to mix it up. I'm torn because we just spent an expansion in another dimension so odds are we should "not" be leaving Azeroth. Shadowlands feels like an interlude expansion, right before some big change occurs to change, well, everything. Maybe the realms of light and void come waaay to close to our realm and start bleeding into new and old areas. the new zones they implement during the expac could be delving deeper into the other realms. Sounds like something blizzard would do.

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    Dragons would work perfectly with the light/shadow theme imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    There's Agthia's Repose in Bastion, still dotted by ruins from a Void invasion, and while you do mention Z'raali, there is the whole Ember Ward.

    There may be others I'm not recalling but I feel that's it. Definitely not major enough (though the Ember Ward stuff is pretty big) but more than you say too.
    That’s not light vs void

    The story even explains why both happened and neither are connected

    The void attempted an invasion when bastion was weak

    The light attacked revendreth because they discovered the dreadlord plot

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Dragons would work perfectly with the light/shadow theme imo.
    Dragons would work perfectly with a time based theme imo. Gotta craft that story to drag Yrel into our timeline for Light/Void theme first.

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    You know, rather silly thought recently struck me -- what class is most associated with the First Ones, after all? It seems like the First Ones lean most toward Order out of all the Cosmic Forces, but they have also interacted the most with the Shadowlands, so it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    That’s not light vs void

    The story even explains why both happened and neither are connected

    The void attempted an invasion when bastion was weak

    The light attacked revendreth because they discovered the dreadlord plot
    Jesus, no one is gonna drop expansion name or exact theme in side quest in Revendreth for you.

    My point is SL has both light and void themes, just like BfA had death themes in Drustvar and Nazmir. Also there is Alleria and Turalyon, Xalatath, Yrel, etc. Focus seems to be split evenly between Light and Void and neither is presented as 'good' power. There is also still Battle of Azeroth main plot to resolve, we get rid of last (maybe) Azeroth Old God, but wound & sword is still there.

    That's why I think clearly things are going towards expansion featuring both Light and Void wanting to take Azeroth, maybe Jailer/Death threat keep them from starting war, cause it's kinda stupid to attack first. Also I noticed last few expansions rhymes really well:

    1) MoP and BfA - evil Warchief, Horde/Ally war, Old God themes in last patch

    2) WoD and SL - going to alien world to solve problem threating Azeroth

    3) Legion and 10.0 - cosmic threat attacking Azeroth directly, 'end of world' expansion.

    Expac like this would be set on Dragon Isles (last major known piece of Azeroth land that would fit as continent), end with Azeroth awakening and coming out from Silithus wound (when we fight Argus we see planet in background more or less intacted). After this expac they would finally do major time skip and soft reset of WoW in 11.0 (that's where I expect revamp).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaganite View Post
    Watch as Wow has its own TVA to stop us changing the time line!
    That's literally what the Bronze Dragonflight is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seasz View Post
    the purple maw?
    When does the Maw become purple?

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  10. #3890
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    There's Agthia's Repose in Bastion, still dotted by ruins from a Void invasion, and while you do mention Z'raali, there is the whole Ember Ward.

    There may be others I'm not recalling but I feel that's it. Definitely not major enough (though the Ember Ward stuff is pretty big) but more than you say too.
    What do you think i meant by "old battles"? They're not particularly noteworthy, either. We know the cosmic forces are in conflict, and the Shadowlands have an entire realm dedicated to running a standing army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Jesus, no one is gonna drop expansion name or exact theme in side quest in Revendreth for you.
    Sure, but these aren't really a bigger deal than the Void presence in Mac'aree. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    There's Agthia's Repose in Bastion, still dotted by ruins from a Void invasion, and while you do mention Z'raali, there is the whole Ember Ward.

    There may be others I'm not recalling but I feel that's it. Definitely not major enough (though the Ember Ward stuff is pretty big) but more than you say too.
    Maldraxxus also had a Legion invasion according to 9.1.

  12. #3892
    Quote Originally Posted by hipolnalrt View Post
    Dragons would work perfectly with a time based theme imo. Gotta craft that story to drag Yrel into our timeline for Light/Void theme first.
    We tried time travel...

    Time travel can be a basis of Light and Shadow. Just have the Dragon Isles and the first raid specifically be focused on the Chromatic and Infinite flights, with the final boss being the Tiamat Chromatus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    We tried time travel...

    Time travel can be a basis of Light and Shadow. Just have the Dragon Isles and the first raid specifically be focused on the Chromatic and Infinite flights, with the final boss being the Tiamat Chromatus.
    Folks gotta stop trying to ham-fist everything into Light/Shadow. Seriously.

    A Light/Shadow expansion is about Light/Shadow. It's not about Time Travel, it's not about the Faction War (though it probably will be and that's on Blizz's bad writers), it's not about the First Ones or whatever WoWHead datamined that managed to get Azeroth trending on twitter from the outrage.
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    The main villain of 10.0:



    You heard it here first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    We tried time travel...

    Time travel can be a basis of Light and Shadow. Just have the Dragon Isles and the first raid specifically be focused on the Chromatic and Infinite flights, with the final boss being the Tiamat Chromatus.
    WoD wasn't Time travel based, it was just used as a plot device and then dropped immediately. In early dev, there was probably more but what we got was like little to no time travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    WoD wasn't Time travel based, it was just used as a plot device and then dropped immediately. In early dev, there was probably more but what we got was like little to no time travel.
    Yeah - WoD actually ended up as Multiverse Story. Quite similiar to the Loki series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    WoD wasn't Time travel based
    Just like Legion wasn't legion invasion based and BFA wasn't faction war based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    WoD wasn't Time travel based, it was just used as a plot device and then dropped immediately. In early dev, there was probably more but what we got was like little to no time travel.
    It was. Time Travel was the basis of how we did shit. And even then, you can do Time Travel and not force it as a main expansion plot. The Caverns of Time are a PERFECT example of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Folks gotta stop trying to ham-fist everything into Light/Shadow. Seriously.

    A Light/Shadow expansion is about Light/Shadow. It's not about Time Travel, it's not about the Faction War (though it probably will be and that's on Blizz's bad writers), it's not about the First Ones or whatever WoWHead datamined that managed to get Azeroth trending on twitter from the outrage.
    I want you to read up on the Infinite Flight real quick. You'll soon learn just how wrong you are. https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Infinite_dragonflight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Maldraxxus also had a Legion invasion according to 9.1.
    Yes, but also need to realize just how massive the Light and Shadow shit is. From Il'gynoth's whispers, to N'Zoth's and Alleria's void whispers on Death being the main enemy to the Void, to Lothraxion and the current Dreadlord plot in SL (Which is also heavily linked with the Light), to Anduin, etc, Light and Shadow have a MASSIVE forefront on this expansion.

    Life and Death just happen to be the priority focus of it. But reminder that every expansion is heavily linked with one another. Much of Legion was setting up N'Zoth and Azshara (As well as the faction shit with Genn and Sylvanas), much of BFA was focused on Sylvanas and her shit, and much of SL is focused on Light and Shadow connections. It's possible the Dragon Isles and the Infinite Flight could be but a plotpoint of the expansion, much like how the Nightmare was with Legion.

    You can literally make the first raid based around the Infinite Flight, the Chromatic Flight, etc with Chromatus as the last boss of that raid.

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    I would NEVER imagine Blizzard passing up the opportunity of giving us a fucking TIAMAT raid boss. Never. And they fucked up WoD...

    That's how much I think this boss needs to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    That's literally what the Bronze Dragonflight is.

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    When does the Maw become purple?
    There is a datamined Maw Model where it looks Red and Purple. It's nothing crazy or anything like that. Lots of Sylvanas' Mawsworn are purple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    WoD wasn't Time travel based
    Time travel was the foundation of the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Just like Legion wasn't legion invasion based and BFA wasn't faction war based.
    Bad examples. WoD was based around the savage world and the Iron Horde. Aside from Kairoz and a little bit of Chromie, the bronze dragonflight was not involved in the main plot at all. Same with the infinite dragonflight. Time travel stuff in WoD was just a Mcgaffin to take us to another planet and that's it. Judging by your logic, BfA should be Void based.
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