1. #3941
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    Pretty sure it's almost impossible to get perma-banned from MMO-C, so nice little fanfic you just cooked up there.
    How could you know with just year of experience? /s

  2. #3942
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    Pretty sure it's almost impossible to get perma-banned from MMO-C, so nice little fanfic you just cooked up there.
    Oh my sweet summer child...

    Dicks out for Jaylock everyone

  3. #3943
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    Pretty sure it's almost impossible to get perma-banned from MMO-C, so nice little fanfic you just cooked up there.
    If you like I can PM a list of 11 members I remember who are permanently banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    Let's be real here, you've never had a pulse on me or any cogent point at all and are only mad because I'm ruining your safe space.

    S'okay, just be honest about it instead of playing the midwit.
    You don't know a thing about me nor any of my opinions, if you did, you'd realize the fool you're making of yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    Pretty sure it's almost impossible to get perma-banned from MMO-C, so nice little fanfic you just cooked up there.
    I commend your trolling attempt, Jaylock would be proud.

  5. #3945
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    You don't know a thing about me nor any of my opinions, if you did, you'd realize the fool you're making of yourself.



    I commend your trolling attempt, Jaylock would be proud.
    The amount of cognitive dissonance needed to post this must be astronomical.

    I don't know you because I dare to state that you are incapable and unqualified to make judgments about me. Lol.

    Pure comedy, this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    The amount of cognitive dissonance needed to post this must be astronomical.

    I don't know you because I dare to state that you are incapable and unqualified to make judgments about me. Lol.

    Pure comedy, this one.
    If you actually bothered to post constructively and not blatantly troll every thread with your blind hatred of your favorite game, you would know I am one of the biggest critics against Blizzard writing and current WoW, making most of your points against me being in a wow "safe space" invalid.

    Instead, you would rather insult me with reckless abandon because someone dared to expose the truth to you, that you are a WoW addict.

    I will keep feeding you replies though, it's humorous to see the cope.
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  7. #3947
    Ohh hey, someone just got banned, well color me surprised.


    So onwards to other things. Which of the many new mounts are people the most excited for? Which mount do people think they are going to be the most dedicated in farming?
    Personally I do quite love that tasty Mawsworn Charger. Just running around on Invincible gets boring eventually, I need some new ghostly horses to scratch my undead themed transmog itch.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  8. #3948
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    So onwards to other things. Which of the many new mounts are people the most excited for? Which mount do people think they are going to be the most dedicated in farming?
    Personally I do quite love that tasty Mawsworn Charger. Just running around on Invincible gets boring eventually, I need some new ghostly horses to scratch my undead themed transmog itch.
    Also the chargers, because we don't have many armored horses on horde side (even on alliance outside of gladi-waste). I'd like an updated model that fits the legion EP tier set and doesn't look like it's 15 years old.
    MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
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  9. #3949
    Quote Originally Posted by hipolnalrt View Post
    To all the people upset about the story being about the cosmos, literally every expansion has expanded on our understanding of the cosmos.

    BC - Burning Legion, and the Light
    WotLK - Ulduar and the Titans and the void
    Cata - Old gods, void, some Emerald Dream stuff
    MoP - Titans and old god/void
    WoD - Burning Legion and some void and light stuff

    You get it.
    We're getting to "jumping the shark" territory at this point, and the quality of the story indicates as such. In general, you can tell when a franchise is jumping the shark when the do things like introduce time travel, jump to different planes of reality, the stakes in the story jump to astronomical levels, you bend previous stories to fit your new narrative, or start doing "cameo of the day" or bringing back dead fan favorites. WoW has done all of these, and it wouldn't be an issue if the consistency and quality was maintained... but it's not.

    As I mentioned in another thread, some things are better left a mystery or unexplored. Why? Expanding into most of the list of things above allows you to hand-wave much of your established story/lore to expand/reset it, yet it is insanely hard to pull off well by even the most talented writers without damaging all your lore or writing yourself into corners. When it comes to WoW, the worst part is that the game itself is not enough to get a good understanding of what's going on, as it leaves so many gaps and inconsistencies that alternative sources (books, etc.) attempt to correct or fill in. That may look nice on paper for a franchise business model, but it's not good for the player of the game.

    What's my prediction for 10.0? We're gonna jump the shark even further, so either jumping to another realm/timeline or having something insanely radical happen back in Azeroth. For 9.2 and beyond? I expect more cameos and "Ha! Everything you experienced in <current xpac, past xpac, past game, you get the idea> wasn't what it seemed! It was all part of the plan!"... although I guess 9.1 is doing this, so it's not that big of a stretch. For a humorous visual, imagine the heist episode of Rick and Morty: the WoW storyline will basically be the heist explanations.
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  10. #3950
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    You gotta love those replies all shitting on retail WoW's awful story. This might be the only place in existence that still gets excited for this shlock.
    Not to be that guy, but most WoW fans don't even know the actual story of the game. This is essentially an argument based off ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    Let's be real here, you've never had a pulse on me or any cogent point at all and are only mad because I'm ruining your safe space.

    S'okay, just be honest about it instead of playing the midwit.
    If you even wonder why you got banned, this is why. You've been at it saying weird shit about Warcraft (Some of it I agree with, most I do not agree with), and you're making fun of the Warcraft playerbase the moment they tell you to calm down and/or point out your hypocrisy. There are better ways of handling constructive criticism and refuting ones own arguments. Please be constructive with your points and logic once you're unbanned, and try not to act immature in a situation that clearly doesn't need to be this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exochaft View Post
    We're getting to "jumping the shark" territory at this point, and the quality of the story indicates as such. In general, you can tell when a franchise is jumping the shark when the do things like introduce time travel, jump to different planes of reality, the stakes in the story jump to astronomical levels, you bend previous stories to fit your new narrative, or start doing "cameo of the day" or bringing back dead fan favorites. WoW has done all of these, and it wouldn't be an issue if the consistency and quality was maintained... but it's not.

    As I mentioned in another thread, some things are better left a mystery or unexplored. Why? Expanding into most of the list of things above allows you to hand-wave much of your established story/lore to expand/reset it, yet it is insanely hard to pull off well by even the most talented writers without damaging all your lore or writing yourself into corners. When it comes to WoW, the worst part is that the game itself is not enough to get a good understanding of what's going on, as it leaves so many gaps and inconsistencies that alternative sources (books, etc.) attempt to correct or fill in. That may look nice on paper for a franchise business model, but it's not good for the player of the game.

    What's my prediction for 10.0? We're gonna jump the shark even further, so either jumping to another realm/timeline or having something insanely radical happen back in Azeroth. For 9.2 and beyond? I expect more cameos and "Ha! Everything you experienced in <current xpac, past xpac, past game, you get the idea> wasn't what it seemed! It was all part of the plan!"... although I guess 9.1 is doing this, so it's not that big of a stretch. For a humorous visual, imagine the heist episode of Rick and Morty: the WoW storyline will basically be the heist explanations.
    I already explained my theory on what I think 10.0 will be about, so I'll just cut to the chase here and say we're not jumping the shark at all. TBC was full of Warhammer and Starcraft references, I'm shocked all of you guys are saying the franchise has jumped the shark NOW. Not before. NOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Indeed. That's the distinction, I say -- it's a plot device, not the actual plot proper. An actual expansion focused of that theme would instead focus on it consistently throughout, serving not as a plot device to reach the story, but as a driving force all throughout.
    Yeah, we don't need that though. Time travel is a touchy subject and at best, and it's best left dealt with as a plot-point for an expansion, rather than the main fucking plot of one.

    TBC and Cataclysm are two perfect examples for this.

  11. #3951
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    I already explained my theory on what I think 10.0 will be about, so I'll just cut to the chase here and say we're not jumping the shark at all. TBC was full of Warhammer and Starcraft references, I'm shocked all of you guys are saying the franchise has jumped the shark NOW. Not before. NOW.
    If you base it on forums, WoW has one and a half decade of non-stop shark jumping to look back to. Doesn't seem to have affected it much, though.

  12. #3952
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Ohh hey, someone just got banned, well color me surprised.


    So onwards to other things. Which of the many new mounts are people the most excited for? Which mount do people think they are going to be the most dedicated in farming?
    Personally I do quite love that tasty Mawsworn Charger. Just running around on Invincible gets boring eventually, I need some new ghostly horses to scratch my undead themed transmog itch.
    Personally, I'm most looking forward to the Aquilons from the Kyrian and the Wilderlings from the Night Fae.

    I want to be excited about the hand mounts but something about them seems weird to me. I mean besides being a giant gauntlet.

  13. #3953
    Any thoughts on 10.x being Dragon Isles? With Ysera having all this new lore, and Wrathion scheming with regards to some Dragon Isles mystery, it seems like the most compelling guess about the setting of the next expansion.

    Do you think it will be a place on Azeroth - or perhaps a pocket dimension, where the Dragon Sanctums are located? I think it would be dope if the Obsidian and Ruby Sanctums appeared in the open world someplace, along with Bronze, Green and Blue themed zones.

  14. #3954
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Any thoughts on 10.x being Dragon Isles? With Ysera having all this new lore, and Wrathion scheming with regards to some Dragon Isles mystery, it seems like the most compelling guess about the setting of the next expansion.

    Do you think it will be a place on Azeroth - or perhaps a pocket dimension, where the Dragon Sanctums are located? I think it would be dope if the Obsidian and Ruby Sanctums appeared in the open world someplace, along with Bronze, Green and Blue themed zones.
    I’m almost certain it will be 10.0
    Also I believe they are on Azeroth based on island expedition clues

  15. #3955
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Any thoughts on 10.x being Dragon Isles? With Ysera having all this new lore, and Wrathion scheming with regards to some Dragon Isles mystery, it seems like the most compelling guess about the setting of the next expansion.

    Do you think it will be a place on Azeroth - or perhaps a pocket dimension, where the Dragon Sanctums are located? I think it would be dope if the Obsidian and Ruby Sanctums appeared in the open world someplace, along with Bronze, Green and Blue themed zones.
    I think 10.0 will be Legion on steroids, just like BfA was MoP on steroids and SL WoD on steroids. Dragon Isles are perfect as continent for expansion like this, mostly because it's last hinted big place in lore (on Azeroth) - I doubt Tel'Abim or Undermine would fit.


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    So what you think about Sepulcher? All these finding for keys make it pretty obvious next goal for Jailer and place for 9.2 zone and raid. Same way it was obvious closing Legion portal was next step after collecting keys for that, but this time villain is doing whole collecting part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post

    So what you think about Sepulcher? All these finding for keys make it pretty obvious next goal for Jailer and place for 9.2 zone and raid. Same way it was obvious closing Legion portal was next step after collecting keys for that, but this time villain is doing whole collecting part.
    Watch - this Sepulcher everyone keeps talking about is actually the one in Silverpine Forest. That is where Sylvanas' 3rd death occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipolnalrt View Post
    Watch - this Sepulcher everyone keeps talking about is actually the one in Silverpine Forest. That is where Sylvanas' 3rd death occurred.
    Would be funny if that is the case actually, everyone speculating where or what it is but it's literally the place named the Sepulcher.
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  18. #3958
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Would be funny if that is the case actually, everyone speculating where or what it is but it's literally the place named the Sepulcher.
    There is also Sepulcher in northern Maldraxxus where we have some side questline. Well, if this whole hyped closed place is just this - THAT would be funny.

  19. #3959
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Ruby Sanctums appeared in the open world
    Argh!

    Haha... never did get that 25H kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    There is also Sepulcher in northern Maldraxxus where we have some side questline. Well, if this whole hyped closed place is just this - THAT would be funny.
    The new broker lore books actually mention that the Sepulcher in Maldraxxus is not the Sepulcher of the First Ones.

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