1. #4161
    Quote Originally Posted by ExiHext View Post
    "Death will claim the soul of your world." is quite specific for me. He could've said: "Death will claim you all." but he didn't. The world soul will probably play a major role.
    He said that to us cause we're from Azeroth. He said "Death comes for the Soul of your World" because that's a threat to US and OUR planet. He could Mawsworn Azeroth as a champion of his, that I can understand. But to say it's his main goal is just ignorant imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    So the First One relics that So'leah steals in Tazavesh turn her into a half broker/half astral constellar looking thing that looks kind of like Argus and his death powers. Then when you retrieve the relics the good broker tells you "the First Ones left these, but not for us".

    Maybe this is building up to the Titans being children of the First Ones?
    Here's how it is

    Cosmic Forces existed >>> First Ones either spawned WITH these Cosmic Powers (Their existences are linked), are the Cosmic Powers themselves, or came after them (I think they themselves are one with their force and if they fall, the Force falls as well) >>> They came together and brought form to their Design >>> They took a piece of themselves and forged Light, Shadow, Life, Death, Order, and Disorder >>> They balanced their forces and the 6 are part of a grand design forged by the Makers, with a seventh power existing outside the Chart (Evil First One?) >>> Reality is forged from the 6 Powers as a potential secret 8th power (AKA a Nexus power) with Azeroth as its center maybe? >>> Cosmic Realms are also forged tho likely before Reality was forged since Zovaal existed before Reality was even a thing >>> Cosmic Pantheons were made to govern each power, with Disorder likely being the one without its own power, due to its inherent nature.

    So, in the power tree, you have:

    First Ones/Cosmic Forces >>> Titans, Eternals, etc which are the embodiments of each force.

  2. #4162
    10.0 is Dragonisles. There will be a new race and class, related to dragons. Tyrande will be integral in the storyline that gets us there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gleepot View Post
    10.0 is Dragonisles. There will be a new race and class, related to dragons. Tyrande will be integral in the storyline that gets us there.
    short and sweet posts like this remind me of the real leaks that used to popup in every mmoc speculation thread, I remember legion and bfa getting leaked here as if it was yesterday... everyone just ignored it too, good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Yeah. He also says that shit to everyone ever.

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    He wants EVERYTHING to serve him. He wants to be the one true God of WoW. Azeroth is nothing more than a bonus.
    Aha. So he opened portal to Azeroth for.. what? Anduin was so cool?

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    God, please let 10.0 be a return to more grounded threats on Azeroth... I can stomach no revamp of EK/Kalimdor if we just stop going into space and planes or whatever the fuck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Aha. So he opened portal to Azeroth for.. what? Anduin was so cool?
    According to everything we know, pretty much yes. From what I understand he wanted the veil to be broken to reunite with Sylvanas and capture Anduin and friends for the sake of acquiring the sigils. It appears that taking Azeroth is only a secondary goal to him, and the Sepulcher is his main objective (unless the Sepulcher ends up being on Azeroth).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    God, please let 10.0 be a return to more grounded threats on Azeroth... I can stomach no revamp of EK/Kalimdor if we just stop going into space and planes or whatever the fuck...
    But... but.... we've killed a Titan, we've excised the Old Gods, we're gonna kill a Cosmic God.....


    No, we need to go bigger. We need to go to war with an entire Cosmic Force....

    We need to try and be as popular as Shadowbringers.

    It's time... to fight ALL OF THE LIGHT ITSELF!!!!1!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    God, please let 10.0 be a return to more grounded threats on Azeroth... I can stomach no revamp of EK/Kalimdor if we just stop going into space and planes or whatever the fuck...
    Ten out of ten, could not agree more if I tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    God, please let 10.0 be a return to more grounded threats on Azeroth... I can stomach no revamp of EK/Kalimdor if we just stop going into space and planes or whatever the fuck...
    Dunno man, BfA was very grounded. And we might have moved to a different dimension in SL, but all the stuff here is still in the high fantasy norm. No sci-fi crap we had in late Legion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    God, please let 10.0 be a return to more grounded threats on Azeroth... I can stomach no revamp of EK/Kalimdor if we just stop going into space and planes or whatever the fuck...
    Agree and while at it BLZ might turn down the hero shit some. I'm equally fed up with the childish narrative that it's up to ME to save the entire world(s).
    They should get back to basics imo.
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  11. #4171
    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    God, please let 10.0 be a return to more grounded threats on Azeroth... I can stomach no revamp of EK/Kalimdor if we just stop going into space and planes or whatever the fuck...
    I would love an expansion that brings us to EK/Kal and we just see how things have been going for the locals. Back to collecting bear asses, foiling bandit organizations, helping small farms/towns, small HvA squabbles over land disputes. Instead of focusing on some sort of Sylvanas tv drama like the story has been for years, they could tell non convoluted smaller stories throughout the world.

    I understand people wouldn't like the less serious world ending big baddie story, but that doesn't mean we can't have raids or a big bad that could be foreshadowed. Give us reasons to care about the world again and the people in it, so that way at the last patch when some unforseen evil levels a town and destroys the inhabitants we actually want to go kick some ass.

  12. #4172
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Aha. So he opened portal to Azeroth for.. what? Anduin was so cool?
    Azeroth could be linked to the First Ones or be the centerpiece of Reality that was made as a Titan Conduit of the First Ones. That's likely it however. If the Sepulcher was located on Azeroth, the Jailer would've opened it by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Dunno man, BfA was very grounded. And we might have moved to a different dimension in SL, but all the stuff here is still in the high fantasy norm. No sci-fi crap we had in late Legion.
    To be fair, and since I've read it from someone else here before, the beginning of BfA was grounded. From the Nazjatar patch onwards we've been jumping sharks on rocket skates again. I mean we defeated an eldritch horror by practically re-originating it with a bunch of titan machines and the world soul channeling a kamehame through us/our necklaces. We went from a faction war that simmered down into a proxy war to a world and effectively universe emding (void lords getting entry into reality) threat. Practically it was only ever grounded on a superficial surface level since the overarching world saving azerite plot was always bubbling below the surface of a simple faction war.
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  14. #4174
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    No. If that happens 10.0 will have to be delayed until 2023, and Blizzard won't have an expansion last 3 years.
    dude the games delayed
    we need to accept it

    9.2 in february
    9.3 around 7 months after
    10.0 10-12 after that

  15. #4175
    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    dude the games delayed
    we need to accept it

    9.2 in february
    9.3 around 7 months after
    10.0 10-12 after that
    So 10.0 in late Q3-early Q4 2024? Even for doomsayers that seems excessive.

    If we assume 2 months delay on every single major patch starting from when SL launched that still leaves us with at worst an August/September 2023 launch. And that is assuming Blizzard is not going to cut the fat in later patches to try to get 10.0 out sooner rather than later.

    9.1 is already far meatier than any previous X.1 patch that I have seen at least. So if we then assume a 9.2 more in vein of 7.2, and a 9.3 more like 8.3 then the amount of content needed for later patches is already cut drastically, possibly even enough to launch said patches earlier.
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  16. #4176
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    So 10.0 in late Q3-early Q4 2024? Even for doomsayers that seems excessive.

    If we assume 2 months delay on every single major patch starting from when SL launched that still leaves us with at worst an August/September 2023 launch. And that is assuming Blizzard is not going to cut the fat in later patches to try to get 10.0 out sooner rather than later.

    9.1 is already far meatier than any previous X.1 patch that I have seen at least. So if we then assume a 9.2 more in vein of 7.2, and a 9.3 more like 8.3 then the amount of content needed for later patches is already cut drastically, possibly even enough to launch said patches earlier.
    Unless 10.0 is not some big revamp expansion that will take longer (and Blizzard would warn us that WoW goes on hiatus like post WoD), I could imagine timeline like this:

    - 9.1.5 absolutely minimal on September (Legion timewalking, heirlooms, small quality of life changes) or even scrapped
    - 9.2 reveal & PTR on September
    - 9.2 launch on 16th, 23th or 30th November (depend if Thanksgiving would be more important than direct clash with FF14 for them, and if it is, how would they prefer position themselves - week before or after)
    - Season 3 either on 30th November or 7th December
    - 9.2.5 definitely scrapped (9.3.5 of course too)
    - on February reveal and PTR of 9.3 (smaller patch than 9.2, more story, Icecrown geting Uldum/Vale treat, final raid and season, some patch gimmick similar to visions)
    - late February/early March Blizzconline - reveal of 10.0 expac AND Wrath Classic
    - late April 9.3 launch (they like to release patches on late March, but it would be impossible this time)
    - early Summer 10.0 Alpha, late Summer Wrath Beta
    - on Gamescom reveal of Wrath date - November 2022 after Thanksgiving
    - Blizzcon 2022 - Beta 10.0 starting next week (people with virtual ticket invited), panels about max level content, making some Wrath hype
    - 10.0 launching on second half of March 2023, making SL longest expansion, beating BfA record by 2-3 weeks.

    Of course there is huge disclaimer - it's possible IF Blizzard is back to speed and is able to deliver raid every 5 months. I'm aware pessimistic people here are sure there is 0% chance for that.

  17. #4177
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Of course there is huge disclaimer - it's possible IF Blizzard is back to speed and is able to deliver raid every 5 months. I'm aware pessimistic people here are sure there is 0% chance for that.
    That's quite possible. I don't think 10.0 will see a very long drought, either, at least as long as we can keep Delta from messing with things to much.

    Though i question the benefit of scrapping the x.x.5 patches, collating those with the .n patches won't really save them much.

  18. #4178
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    That's quite possible. I don't think 10.0 will see a very long drought, either, at least as long as we can keep Delta from messing with things to much.

    Though i question the benefit of scrapping the x.x.5 patches, collating those with the .n patches won't really save them much.
    People still expect some content or system changes from patches like these. In general I don't see a point for them after devs abandoned Legion way. 8.1.5 was last mini patch with some content, 8.2.5 was a joke and 9.0.5 was just hotfix that pretend to be a patch cause end of Q1 was coming and they had to lure some people in.

  19. #4179
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    So 10.0 in late Q3-early Q4 2024? Even for doomsayers that seems excessive.

    If we assume 2 months delay on every single major patch starting from when SL launched that still leaves us with at worst an August/September 2023 launch. And that is assuming Blizzard is not going to cut the fat in later patches to try to get 10.0 out sooner rather than later.

    9.1 is already far meatier than any previous X.1 patch that I have seen at least. So if we then assume a 9.2 more in vein of 7.2, and a 9.3 more like 8.3 then the amount of content needed for later patches is already cut drastically, possibly even enough to launch said patches earlier.
    how do you get 2024??
    next year is 2022 so it would be 2023

    delays happened we cant get around that
    patches and 10.0 are effected just by the fact they work on the next expansion at the same time they launch the current one

    feb of 2022 will be the latest 9.2 hits
    "well they dont need as much content because of the 9.1 content"
    theres no predetermined amount of content they have for an expansions patch cycle and kneecapping the later patches especially the one that normally lasts about a year is a terrible business strategy

    lets say 9.3 hits in september of 2022
    this means that if we get blizzcon we can get all the super fun stuff for the next expansion shown and hype us up

    you figure the 10-12 month cycle we will get it no later than september 2023
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    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    feb of 2022 will be the latest 9.2 hits
    Uhm... 8.2 to 8.3 took them almost the same amount of time then as 9.1 to 9.2 (8.2 end of June, 8.3 mid January; 9.1 end of June, 9.2 January / February). With the only exception 9.1 was already 3 months late. I think 9.2 in February is totally reasonable, but only if we're getting the next expansion in Q4/22 (which will be the case).
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