1. #4201
    If nothing else, the portal that the Jailer opens looks like almost nothing else we've seen (aside from, I think, the location of the Primus' sigil, interestingly).

  2. #4202
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    If nothing else, the portal that the Jailer opens looks like almost nothing else we've seen (aside from, I think, the location of the Primus' sigil, interestingly).
    It closely resembles the black, white and gold coloration shown in First One tech and energy. I think he is going for the Sepulcher of the First Ones and/or a First One plane, which aligns with what Primus said he would do.

  3. #4203
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    It closely resembles the black, white and gold coloration shown in First One tech and energy. I think he is going for the Sepulcher of the First Ones and/or a First One plane, which aligns with what Primus said he would do.
    That's along what I think as well.

    At the least, doesn't make me think anywhere on Azeroth, nor the realm of Life like some think.

    Definitely curious how it'll look.

  4. #4204
    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    10.0 production normally would have started no later than 9.0 release but blizz is behind so obviously the expansion is delayed

    9.1 isn’t even out of development just look at the thing

    I get that we can use past patch releases to figure out the next but you have to also remember that everything is delayed whether we like it or not

    Now this went from someone saying 10 months from September 22 is 24 and now “there’s no possible way they will delay an expansion that’s definitely not already delayed”
    See, the problem is that not a single soul on Earth wants Shadowlands to last 3 years, so pretty much everyone hopes 10.0 won't be delayed.

  5. #4205
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    That's along what I think as well.

    At the least, doesn't make me think anywhere on Azeroth, nor the realm of Life like some think.

    Definitely curious how it'll look.
    I think it'll look pretty close to the Oribos/Korthia style, as their architecture has a similar design to the First One relics and creations such as the robot boss in Sanctum.

    This would line up with the tier set thing as we would probably not get a zone-themed armor set (as we already have Oribos gear and Broker weapons resemble them already).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    See, the problem is that not a single soul on Earth wants Shadowlands to last 3 years, so pretty much everyone hopes 10.0 won't be delayed.
    I doubt 10.0 is delayed. Everything pointed to 9.1 being small already, such as the Sanctum armor being in the game already and Tazavesh already being foreshadowed through Broker assets/the lack of an actual "Broker zone". A lot of the Maw was also pointless at launch which points to them planning on expanding it in the next patch.

    9.1 being small isn't because of COVID. We are lacking anything that launch was already foreshadowing, there is nothing obviously cut like Faralohn (for all people are wanting the Ancestor/Shaman zone, not much ingame points to it ever existing). The patch was likely designed to be small already, albeit not with such a late release.

  6. #4206
    My new guess is that the 7th Cosmic Power is actually Steve Danuser himself, from beyond the 4th wall. For 10.x we will cross the 4th wall and enter the mind of Steve Danuser himself, that resembles Azeroth but instead of fighting, everyone is naked and fucking.

  7. #4207
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    See, the problem is that not a single soul on Earth wants Shadowlands to last 3 years, so pretty much everyone hopes 10.0 won't be delayed.
    If it means we get a full expansion with at least 9.3 I'm fine with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Uhm... 8.2 to 8.3 took them almost the same amount of time then as 9.1 to 9.2 (8.2 end of June, 8.3 mid January; 9.1 end of June, 9.2 January / February). With the only exception 9.1 was already 3 months late. I think 9.2 in February is totally reasonable, but only if we're getting the next expansion in Q4/22 (which will be the case).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    The fact that all the zone storylines are effectively finished in 9.1s campaign makes me think that the next patch will be a different realm entirely, and therefore this will be a 2 patch expansion. I think it was always planned this way though (see the Maw being mostly finished and the maw armor in 9.0) and it’s not due to budget cuts, but they wanted to make a smaller expansion before 10.0.

    I assume the idea is that whatever 10.0 is will be announced around the same time its confirmed its a two patch expansion, and it’s “hype” enough for people not to be mad that they paid for only two patches (world revamp, neutral PVE mode, housing, etc). But maybe this is why the price was reduced in the first place?

    There are a few things that don’t get resolved by the last campaign quest though. Namely what happens to Vol’jin, what happens to Denathrius after the Nathrezim steal him and whatever happens to Kyrestia and her magic sword wound. These can all happen in 9.2 though.

    I would like Denny and the Nathrezim to survive post Zovaal. They are crafty enough to outlive both the Legion AND Zovaal and the infiltration book implies their story will continue with Lothraxion and an unnamed spy in the Life realm.

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    Them saying we will be getting tier sets again lines up with us probably not getting zone armor for whatever 9.2 is, so we'd at least have one patch of tier sets. And while not a lot is pointing to it currently, if there's any time for the Covenants to provide Allied Races it's 9.2 as we have helped them solve their problems and now they have to work with us to go to wherever Zovaal is and bring him down. That could be another "hype point" to deflate the disappointment in only two patches.

    I see a lot of posts lately saying they are tired of the SL setting and want to return to Azeroth so... maybe Blizzard planned on this?
    I would love Covenant Allied Races in 9.2! Although at that point they need to move the account maximum from 50 to something like 80 or more. I would even pay for it. Would love to have one alt of every race/class combi that's possible some day, lol.

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    I'd mostly be okay with SL ending at 9.2. 9.1 effectively took the place of a .2 patch and SL basically skipped over a traditional .1 patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    I'd mostly be okay with SL ending at 9.2. 9.1 effectively took the place of a .2 patch and SL basically skipped over a traditional .1 patch.
    Yes. Nothing in this expansion's story has a "missing" chunk that needs to be dealt with in 9.2 before 9.3.

    Expansions don't all have to be 3 patches long.

  12. #4212
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    See, the problem is that not a single soul on Earth wants Shadowlands to last 3 years, so pretty much everyone hopes 10.0 won't be delayed.
    You can build a ship on hopes and dreams but it doesn’t mean it’ll float

    All we can realistically hope for is blizzard fixing the annoyances of this expansion and they are doing that
    Torghast was boring and had no rewards
    As much as I don’t personally love the new system it does fix the issues with cosmetic rewards and conduit upgrades

    The maw was restrictive and gave no reason to do it daily because you weren’t able to get much done without the eye screwing you
    The removal of the eye and the addition of mounts along with tormentors and assaults fixed that

    Catch up was very slow
    They made each campaign chapter give 2 renown on catch up and boosted the drop so much my shaman who started the campaign yesterday is 40 because of lfr, world bosses, and the campaign. The catch up gear is also a decent ilvl and your ability to upgrade the gear is determined by your main’s progress. My main is rank 4 research so my alt has some 220 gear from upgrades

  13. #4213
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    Yes. Nothing in this expansion's story has a "missing" chunk that needs to be dealt with in 9.2 before 9.3.

    Expansions don't all have to be 3 patches long.
    Agreed. Expansions don't need to have 3 patches and in fact several expansions had more or less than 3 patches.

    TBC: It had 4 content patches.
    MOP: It had 4 content patches.
    WOD: It had 2 content patches.

    And Yes 6.1 was a content patch and is acknowledged as such by Blizzard on their official website, no matter how much WoD apologists want to pretend it wasn't one.

    WoW players have grown complacent but the truth is that an expansion doesn't need to have 3 content patches, that's not a rule, so Shadowlands could perfectly end with just 2 content patches like WoD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Agreed. Expansions don't need to have 3 patches and in fact several expansions had more or less than 3 patches.

    TBC: It had 4 content patches.
    MOP: It had 4 content patches.
    WOD: It had 2 content patches.

    WoW players have grown complacent but the truth is that an expansion doesn't need to have 3 content patches, that's not a rule, so Shadowlands could perfectly end with just 2 content patches like WoD.
    6.1 was not a content patch.

  15. #4215
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    6.1 was not a content patch.
    I would also say 2.2 wasn't a content patch either. 5.3 likely would've been 5.2.5 if they started back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    6.1 was not a content patch.
    If we go by today's standards if what a .1 patch would add then 6.1 did add Blackrock Foundry. Yes it was already in the game, and the armor was the same as in Highmaul, but still.

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    On a wildly different note though.

    I seem to be close to capping on Anima, and I have bought pretty much everything the Necrolords have to offer. I don't suppose anyone has any experience swapping covenants for rewards? Specifically how it ended up working in practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    6.1 was not a content patch.
    Yeah, but I think blizzard tried to pretend it was one. I honestly don't remember at this point.

  18. #4218
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Yeah, but I think blizzard tried to pretend it was one. I honestly don't remember at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
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    That's something, at least.

    Compare that to Patch 2.2, the skimpiest major content patch ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Agreed. Expansions don't need to have 3 patches and in fact several expansions had more or less than 3 patches.

    TBC: It had 4 content patches.
    MOP: It had 4 content patches.
    WOD: It had 2 content patches.

    And Yes 6.1 was a content patch and is acknowledged as such by Blizzard on their official website, no matter how much WoD apologists want to pretend it wasn't one.

    WoW players have grown complacent but the truth is that an expansion doesn't need to have 3 content patches, that's not a rule, so Shadowlands could perfectly end with just 2 content patches like WoD.
    WOD didn't have ANY content patches. It was shit and that's part of why I laugh at anyone who thinks BFA was worse.

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