Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Alanar]

That was mostly on lore though, not to mention the discussion that wasn't lore was on how much they hated Azerite.

Discounting lore the engagement on forums is probably about the same.

Lore was one part yes, it was until later when people realisednit was shit( not counting alpha, beta) the feedback was wasted.

People tend to forget that for alot of people forums/fansites are as much part of the whole thing, but theorycrafting seems like a relic these days.

[Dracullus]

> The evidence is everywhere!!!

“Oh cool, so you can provide evidence to back your claims easily?”

> Denial! Sad! You always get people trying to pin things down with “numbers” and “hard data” and “facts”! You have to take me at my word!!!

Most funny is we could find almost same quotes from same people (if they were active back then) from same BfA period. Always current year is worst eva.

I was generally speaking.. you always get people like you trying to pin everything down with numbers etc. Listen I dont care about the nitpicking, its that the evidence is everywhere and everybody sees it, its not always about numbers..
Its sad and i see alot of dinial in here, which I get, but people just seem to care even less than last year. I mean I notice it with myself.. I know I wil get some lenghty detailed response, but honestly if I were you I wouldnt bother.

Lol, so SL is less crowded than BfA at this time, you don't have numbers, evidence is everywhere (not numbers though, important part) and everybody sees it (not me though, guess I'm special), it's all about your feelings.

Yep, detailed response would be fruitless.

[Alanar]

> The evidence is everywhere!!!

“Oh cool, so you can provide evidence to back your claims easily?”

> Denial! Sad! You always get people trying to pin things down with “numbers” and “hard data” and “facts”! You have to take me at my word!!!

I dont care m8... i am not going to provide you with data or source or some other bullshit. If you dont see a difference then thats up to you. Your comment was expected btw and I see that as part of the dinial.

[Makabreska]

I dont care m8... i am not going to provide you with data or source or some other bullshit. If you dont see a difference then thats up to you. Your comment was expected btw.

I mean sure, if you call "bullshit" providing proofs for your claims in a discussion , then there is nothing to discuss with you indeed. This dodge was also very expected.

[Alanar]

I mean sure, if you call "bullshit" providing proofs for your claims in a discussion , then there is nothing to discuss with you indeed. This dodge was also very expected.

I mean sure what ever, same as your post.

You truly believe evidence is needed here? Lol

[Makabreska]

I mean sure what ever, same as your post.

You truly believe evidence is needed here? Dont bs us.

If you want to bs us instead with your feelycraft, stand in line. We got "lol it's so obvious!" dudes like you every year.

[Nagawithlegs]

Just ignore people who don’t want to discuss things. It’s a forum, not a shitpost litterbox.

You don’t like wow and a lot of people don’t. And?

[Alanar]

If you want to bs us instead with your feelycraft, stand in line. We got "lol it's so obvious!" dudes like you every year.

Your responses were the most meaningless to begin with.. Its not us here.. you started to respond to me so its just you.

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Most funny is we could find almost same quotes from same people (if they were active back then) from same BfA period. Always current year is worst eva.



Lol, so SL is less crowded than BfA at this time, you don't have numbers, evidence is everywhere (not numbers though, important part) and everybody sees it (not me though, guess I'm special), it's all about your feelings.

Yep, detailed response would be fruitless.

I guess you are just.. realy special.

[Revamp Man]

Most funny is we could find almost same quotes from same people (if they were active back then) from same BfA period. Always current year is worst eva.



Lol, so SL is less crowded than BfA at this time, you don't have numbers, evidence is everywhere (not numbers though, important part) and everybody sees it (not me though, guess I'm special), it's all about your feelings.

Yep, detailed response would be fruitless.

My raid team actually doubled in size because of the people returning lol

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9.2 is going to be in the area of the sepulcher
We will be fighting the jailer’s lieutenants including but not limited to
Denathrius (they reclaimed him)
Helya (the primus sealed her back into helheim)
Muehzala (likely rescued like denathrius)
Dread lord queen (no reason not to explore her)
Anduin

Sylvanas redemption starts
Her shattered soul made her a sociopath
Her full soul makes her full of regret and she wants to fix everything
She tells us about Zovaal’s plan
She sacrifices herself to save Anduin and has a cringe last line

[Nagawithlegs]

My raid team actually doubled in size because of the people returning lol

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9.2 is going to be in the area of the sepulcher
We will be fighting the jailer’s lieutenants including but not limited to
Denathrius (they reclaimed him)
Helya (the primus sealed her back into helheim)
Muehzala (likely rescued like denathrius)
Dread lord queen (no reason not to explore her)
Anduin

Sylvanas redemption starts
Her shattered soul made her a sociopath
Her full soul makes her full of regret and she wants to fix everything
She tells us about Zovaal’s plan
She sacrifices herself to save Anduin and has a cringe last line

I'm not sure about Denathrius being a boss. There are a few things pointing to the Nathrezim outlasting Zovaal and being the ultimate villains (with people in the Life and Light realms, the latter being Lothraxion most likely).

Maybe they will be the ultimate villains?

[Revamp Man]

I'm not sure about Denathrius being a boss. There are a few things pointing to the Nathrezim outlasting Zovaal and being the ultimate villains (with people in the Life and Light realms, the latter being Lothraxion most likely).

Maybe they will be the ultimate villains?

Lore-wide they are creations of denathrius and the in game book hints at lothraxion (the light nathrezim) still being a plant

They serve the jailer I imagine the denathrius encounter will have more lore revealed

[Dracullus]

I only did current campaign on Venthyr and NF. Last week Necrolords chars recreate their sigil, right? This week I had sigil cutscene on Venthyr, but not on NF.

[Revamp Man]

I only did current campaign on Venthyr and NF. Last week Necrolords chars recreate their sigil, right? This week I had sigil cutscene on Venthyr, but not on NF.

It’s a different chapter

The new campaign is not covenant specific

[AngerFork]

9.2 is going to be in the area of the sepulcher
We will be fighting the jailer’s lieutenants including but not limited to
Denathrius (they reclaimed him)
Helya (the primus sealed her back into helheim)
Muehzala (likely rescued like denathrius)
Dread lord queen (no reason not to explore her)
Anduin

I agree with most of this except for Denathrius. I suspect that the Nathrezim are intended to be future villains, possibly in 10.0. If so, it's likely that he is restored for that expansion rather than working with the Jailer again. The Anduin fight if it's there may well be the end fight. That is, rather than fight the Jailer who we've already seen we aren't on the level of, we'll take on Anduin and beat the Jailer's power from him while the covenant masters take down Zovaal himself.

Sylvanas redemption starts
Her shattered soul made her a sociopath
Her full soul makes her full of regret and she wants to fix everything
She tells us about Zovaal’s plan
She sacrifices herself to save Anduin and has a cringe last line

I suspect this section is going to largely be your 9.1.5 story content, but I don't see her sacrificing herself. If she was going to sacrifice herself, I doubt she would've gotten her full soul back. She'll help us defeat him & will be stuffed in the Thrall box for a couple expansions while they rework her image to yet again be a marketing tool.

[Sondrelk]

I only did current campaign on Venthyr and NF. Last week Necrolords chars recreate their sigil, right? This week I had sigil cutscene on Venthyr, but not on NF.

Necrolords did not recreate their sigil as far as I know. They instead just promoted Draka to the new Margrave of the Chosen.
Given how it is supposed to work I imagine they need to promote the rest of the Margraves as well. They are still missing the Construct Margrave, Eyes Margrave and Plague Margrave.

Given the way the Primus is seemingly the leader of the eternals I imagine he will create his sigil last to complete the set.

[Lady Atia]

My raid team actually doubled in size because of the people returning lol

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9.2 is going to be in the area of the sepulcher
We will be fighting the jailer’s lieutenants including but not limited to
Denathrius (they reclaimed him)
Helya (the primus sealed her back into helheim)
Muehzala (likely rescued like denathrius)
Dread lord queen (no reason not to explore her)
Anduin

Sylvanas redemption starts
Her shattered soul made her a sociopath
Her full soul makes her full of regret and she wants to fix everything
She tells us about Zovaal’s plan
She sacrifices herself to save Anduin and has a cringe last line

No way we will fight Denathrius again this expansion. The original plan for him was to die at the end of Castle Nathria but they changed that because his voice actor was so good (iirc). I think they realized they could use him as a villain a few expansions down the line similiar to Helya or Ra-den. And that's good - we need more build-up for future raids/dungeons!

[Dracullus]

It’s a different chapter

The new campaign is not covenant specific

We have 1 story chapter focused on each covenant, but this time they are smarter than in 7.2 and everyone do them. But on my Venthyr I got cutscene for sigil and not on NF, so I guess it's only for "my" chapter. I'll do whole thing on my Necrolord tomorrow and check, cause "their" chapter was last week.

Necrolords did not recreate their sigil as far as I know. They instead just promoted Draka to the new Margrave of the Chosen.
Given how it is supposed to work I imagine they need to promote the rest of the Margraves as well. They are still missing the Construct Margrave, Eyes Margrave and Plague Margrave.

Given the way the Primus is seemingly the leader of the eternals I imagine he will create his sigil last to complete the set.

Last one is Arbiter key.. or rather Zovaal's. I wonder how we recreate that, but very likely it will be opening quest for 7.2.

[Makabreska]

Man, doing Guardian of the First Ones now, and for some reason everything seems so alien. Sure we got plenty of Titan/Legion tech in the past, but somehow they way the dude looks and speaks, the architecture around him feels weird and off. More of this in the future, please.

[huth]

I mean sure what ever, same as your post.

You truly believe evidence is needed here? Lol

Evidence is always needed when making claims. No exceptions.

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Man, doing Guardian of the First Ones now, and for some reason everything seems so alien. Sure we got plenty of Titan/Legion tech in the past, but somehow they way the dude looks and speaks, the architecture around him feels weird and off. More of this in the future, please.

Titan tech still talks relatively "human". That thing is obviously a robot with a speech synthesizer.

[Revamp Man]

Evidence is always needed when making claims. No exceptions.

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Titan tech still talks relatively "human". That thing is obviously a robot with a speech synthesizer.

Elegon then??
Idk I’m possibly off base I stopped farming him in legion

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No way we will fight Denathrius again this expansion. The original plan for him was to die at the end of Castle Nathria but they changed that because his voice actor was so good (iirc). I think they realized they could use him as a villain a few expansions down the line similiar to Helya or Ra-den. And that's good - we need more build-up for future raids/dungeons!

It will likely be like queen aszhara in nyalotha
In the fight but not fighting