1. #4781
    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    Well they could do one of two things

    Make current servers like legacy servers
    Or
    Make a kind of lineage system

    You start over but your new character has all the stuff you unlocked like mounts

    Yeah you can’t run jaina for the mount anymore but you’ll have invincible still
    From a game design perspective that is just awful. You'd essentially still have to support all the old shit technology wise while getting none of the content out of it. You might as well just fake something into the story and make a portal somewhere that connects old shit to new shit.
    MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
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  2. #4782
    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    From a game design perspective that is just awful. You'd essentially still have to support all the old shit technology wise while getting none of the content out of it. You might as well just fake something into the story and make a portal somewhere that connects old shit to new shit.
    You just have the old models and skins dude

  3. #4783
    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    You just have the old models and skins dude
    So I take it you have no programming experience of any kind then, ok got you.
    MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis.

  4. #4784
    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    So I take it you have no programming experience of any kind then, ok got you.
    Depending on how they do it they can pull it off in the same way other games have for legacy unlocks

    I have no clue how the game would be changed and neither do you

    They can essentially make it a blocked off expansion with no previous ties or access to the old content
    Or
    They can make a brand new game from the ground up and use a program to flag account access to the mounts and transmog

    If they go halfway then it’s not a big deal
    If they go full scorched earth it’s more work but it’s a new game anyways why not do it right

  5. #4785
    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomer View Post
    If the final raid of this expansion isn't the long-awaited "Cosby Suite" raid then I am going to stay unsubbed.
    Alex as final boss? Might evolve helping some chained girls, while avoiding greg throwing beerglasses?

    The jailer will be the first boss just to get rid of him asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    With the corona push backs, the current shitstorm and Blizzards inability to think things through, i really doubt we are gonna get something particularly grand.
    How awfull it sounds I actually believe there is truth in your words. Just on a personal level It feels like nothing will be big enough, but hey who knows..
    Please read this blizzard: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...m_source=share also what could have been possible with Nightborne--> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLr5dDXn5nE

  6. #4786
    WoW 2? At this point of the franchise and the company? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnjohn View Post
    Maybe you should accept people's opinions for what they are and stop trying to tell them what to do and enjoy. Game was fine before Mythic +. You may like it, I hate it. In fact if people who use the expression "Get good" vanished from mmorpgs forever, I would not cry about it.

    Now, go away.
    But no one forces you to do it?

  8. #4788
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I would really curb down 10.0 scope expectations, with corona and current drama obstructing work hard.
    Absolutely this.

    A new class is likely, I'd say. I think they get rid of borrowed power and just give us a new talent row with conduits or Covenant skills turned into a talent, so the easiest way. That's it for character progression. But a world revamp? No way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Absolutely this.

    A new class is likely, I'd say. I think they get rid of borrowed power and just give us a new talent row with conduits or Covenant skills turned into a talent, so the easiest way. That's it for character progression. But a world revamp? No way.
    If we're tamping down expectations scrap that new class off there.

    You get 10 levels, 5 zones, rehashed world quests, and that's it.

    And that's also a perfect definition of "maintenance mode."
    WoW has Cancer. First you cut out the cancer (abusive devs), then you assign an aggressive treatment plan (major design rework) to save it.

    Or you just let it die because that's too expensive.

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  10. #4790
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    An expansion like Vanilla WoW. 40 years into the future. Some notable characters are gone, some very old. Every patch is random like vanilla was.
    This would be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    If we're tamping down expectations scrap that new class off there.

    You get 10 levels, 5 zones, rehashed world quests, and that's it.

    And that's also a perfect definition of "maintenance mode."
    I think working on a new class began quite early, therefore COVID and all of the internal turmoil are not really affecting it. I mean they have to give the expansion some major feature, even if it's just one. A new class would be the most serviceable feature. Borrowed power 4.0? Nobody would eat that sh*t up unless it's the return of artifact weapons. Housing? Well... no thanks. What else? A class is easily done and has some WOW-factor attached to it. I think it's a pretty safe bet. If not... I don't want to think about that yet.
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  11. #4791
    The Jailer screws up azeroth, we gotta return and help. Blizzard has redone all of EK/K, we all start at level 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Absolutely this.

    A new class is likely, I'd say. I think they get rid of borrowed power and just give us a new talent row with conduits or Covenant skills turned into a talent, so the easiest way. That's it for character progression. But a world revamp? No way.
    I don't think a world revamp is out of the question when consider the possibility that they've been working on it for a while. BfA saw an overhaul of Arathi and Darkshore, and along with them a lot of assets like buildings and natural objects have already been remade. Similarly, do you really think 9.1 was that big of an undertaking for the world design team? And I don't mean the artists that make raids/dungeons, but the artists for overworld environments. Nah, I promise you Korthia wasn't the reason 9.1 took so long, so the world designers were pretty clearly already working on something else before 9.1 even came out. There's a chance 9.2 might see some large and elaborate zone(s) but if that doesn't happen then I'm pretty certain that the world designers have been focusing on something else for the duration of Shadowlands.

  13. #4793
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    If we're tamping down expectations scrap that new class off there.

    You get 10 levels, 5 zones, rehashed world quests, and that's it.

    And that's also a perfect definition of "maintenance mode."
    Maintenance mode would be a zone and a raid. Several zones, dungeons and raids is hardly maintenance mode, the game has survived perfectly fine on less content than that.

    Once the game starts giving us a new raids a year apart with nothing of note in between can we really start calling it maintenance mode.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post
    The Jailer screws up azeroth, we gotta return and help. Blizzard has redone all of EK/K, we all start at level 1.
    I wouldn't even be mad to be honest...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    An expansion like Vanilla WoW. 40 years into the future. Some notable characters are gone, some very old. Every patch is random like vanilla was.
    I'd love that. Different flavour every patch is a big yes!
    Last edited by Fahrad Wagner; 2021-08-02 at 12:18 PM.

  15. #4795
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    If we're tamping down expectations scrap that new class off there.

    You get 10 levels, 5 zones, rehashed world quests, and that's it.

    And that's also a perfect definition of "maintenance mode."
    This is likely enough. Unless the financials are worse than you or I might think.

    This will bring about 0 players back, so if they can afford that, it's the easiest and cheapest option.

  16. #4796
    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    I wouldn't even be mad to be honest...



    I'd love that. Different flavour every patch is a big yes!
    a total nuke of Azeroth(a reset), or jumping far into the future would be perfect for a 10.0 xpac. Of course it has to be done without affecting current characters and all that, cause that would suck.

    If theres a time to do it, its for the next xpac.

    We have chromie time now + the classic & bc servers for the old world. Blizzard has set it up perfectly to change it up dramatically on retail.

  17. #4797
    Has anyone seen "A Watchful Raven" in oribos? It's a humanoid, not a beast and it's aligned with the Kirin Tor. Khadgar is most likely in Shadowlands with us but hasn't made his presence known yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Absolutely this.

    A new class is likely, I'd say. I think they get rid of borrowed power and just give us a new talent row with conduits or Covenant skills turned into a talent, so the easiest way. That's it for character progression. But a world revamp? No way.
    Blizzard seemingly hinted at a new class being ready for Shadowlands, but the thematic of the expansion didn't support it. So yeah, I could see a new class already being ready to go for the next expansion.

    The real question is does the expansion get revealed later this month at Gamescon, or does it get revealed at BlizzCon in February?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Blizzard seemingly hinted at a new class being ready for Shadowlands
    Where did they do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Where did that do that?
    You have to follow the expansion leaks back in 2019. There were multiple leaks attaching a class to the Shadowlands expansion. Later in the cycle (around October a few weeks before Shadowlands announcement) a leak emerged saying that the new class was scrapped because it didn't fit the theme of the expansion. Blizzard seemingly backed this up by mentioning that no new class matched the thematic or setting of Shadowlands, and that DKs were the death class in WoW.

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