1. #4841
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Well shit, J. Allen Brack leaves.
    We need new blood.

  2. #4842
    Faster than I had expected, honestly.

  3. #4843
    We're getting quarterly results today as well. Who knows, maybe they're not looking good either.
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  4. #4844
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Well shit, J. Allen Brack leaves.
    After some shareholders started to whet their soulless lawyer-shaped knives it was obvious that JAB would wouldn't keep his seat at Blizzard for much longer. The moment he butchered their first press release was when it was over, especially after it kept snowballing from that point on to the point that even their stock dipped a bit. Him being part of the old crew that watched Afrasiabi for over a decade doesn't help much either. Now it remains to be seen how all of this will play out in the future.

    Edit: At least first glance they didn't try to put some former Trump wannabe-GeStaPo at the helm and went for people that have at least worked on a game before. I expected worse for his replacement, tbh.
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  5. #4845
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    We're getting quarterly results today as well. Who knows, maybe they're not looking good either.
    This was my thought. If Kotick has to bring bad news to the investors, it helps if he has a severed head to placate them with.
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  6. #4846
    Would the shareholders meeting give us a hint about 9.2 or 10.0?

  7. #4847
    Quote Originally Posted by Kereberus View Post
    Would the shareholders meeting give us a hint about 9.2 or 10.0?
    Sometimes it contains phrases like "bla bla will release later this year" or stuff like that, but at the last shareholder meeting they didn't announce the TBC Classic launch at all, just to announce it a few days later with a blue post.

    And with no official word about 9.2 yet I very much doubt they'll mention it in the report.
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  8. #4848
    Quote Originally Posted by Kereberus View Post
    Would the shareholders meeting give us a hint about 9.2 or 10.0?
    Nope, it's about past, not future. And it's for April-June period, April/May were dead months, but June was both TBC and 9.1 - many people who hated it still checked out patch and all you need for Blizz is to log in once.

  9. #4849
    Quote Originally Posted by Kereberus View Post
    Would the shareholders meeting give us a hint about 9.2 or 10.0?
    I doubt it, they might reafirm that they are working to get back on track with their release schedule or at best they might admit that this all might have delayed it a couple of weeks. I doubt strongly that we'll be seeing concrete release dates, even just rough estimates by quarter.
    MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis.

  10. #4850
    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    I doubt it, they might reafirm that they are working to get back on track with their release schedule or they at best they might admit that this all might have delayed it a couple of weeks. I doubt we'll be seeing concrete release dates or ever quarter prognoses.
    Now would be a great time for them to trot out bad news they've been sugarcoating, though. They have a scapegoat who has just conveniently decided to "pursue personal opportunities elsewhere".
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  11. #4851
    They basically gave Blizzard leadership to people outside Blizzard. Acti must be really paranoid with who was involved or ignored harassment. Or everyone with executive position was ignoring it...

  12. #4852
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    They basically gave Blizzard leadership to people outside Blizzard. Acti must be really paranoid with who was involved or ignored harassment. Or everyone with executive position was ignoring it...
    Blizzard is also the sick studio (notice they're calling it a studio!) in A-B, just from the basic point of delivering games that grow revenue.
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  13. #4853
    All I gather from this is:

    Phew, at least Shadowlands ends with 9.2, I couldn't have asked for a better pick to get the WoD treatment.

    Because let's be real these people are not going to do 9.3 with all this mess

  14. #4854
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    All I gather from this is:

    Phew, at least Shadowlands ends with 9.2, I couldn't have asked for a better pick to get the WoD treatment.

    Because let's be real these people are not going to do 9.3 with all this mess
    If 9.3 was planned month ago, it will still release, it's not like they suddenly will speed up 10.0 production cause drama. If anything, last few months should force them to reflect what they exactly want to do in 10.0, since Legion foundation simply doesn't work anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Blizzard is also the sick studio (notice they're calling it a studio!) in A-B, just from the basic point of delivering games that grow revenue.
    And how they should call it? It's a studio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    All I gather from this is:

    Phew, at least Shadowlands ends with 9.2, I couldn't have asked for a better pick to get the WoD treatment.

    Because let's be real these people are not going to do 9.3 with all this mess
    How many patches SL will have was decided long time ago, and sudden change of Blizz leadership wont produce any visible WoW results for some time, if any.
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  16. #4856
    Quote Originally Posted by Squiddo69 View Post
    It'd very naive to not expect some if not a lot of people to revisit Legion/BfA/Shadowlands with a new class, and if and when they do then it's going to feel raw and unfinished if a lot of the expansion's elements are missing.
    Legion already feels that way with the Artifact Weapon being a glorified gem holder and I haven't seen anyone have a problem with that.

  17. #4857
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    How many patches SL will have was decided long time ago, and sudden change of Blizz leadership wont produce any visible WoW results for some time, if any.
    Oh come on, we've seen what happned earlier this year with how far along Korthia was (or not to be precise given the anemic showing at blizzconline. Blizzard is not preproducing tonns of content right now. If they planned 2 they could easily cut and merge it down to 1. Other game studios have stamped out whole games with the debris of past projects in half a year, Blizzard can do the same.
    MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Well shit, J. Allen Brack leaves.
    Not to derive the thread, but I think it is a good thing. The apologetic/disgusted tone of his statement was really off compared to those videos from Blizzcon. It sounded like someone who knew he fucked up, but was trying to save his skin in the process under the cover of a tolerant and apologetic message. Although I genuinely believe he came to realise there was an issue... I also believe he was a part of the said issue, for closing his eyes or ignoring Afriasiabi's behaviour for years.

    I think new blood is what Blizzard's management needs at the moment.

    That being said, I truly believe 9.2 will be the end of Shadowlands, and that an 9.3 patch is highly unlikely. And if that is the case, I also believe it will be a good thing: better to have a strong ending with 9.2 than a lukewarm one stretched over to 9.3 imo!

    But maybe all of this is wishful thinking, time will tell...
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  19. #4859
    Quote Originally Posted by Squiddo69 View Post
    There were no systems such as those when DHs were introduced. At most they had to give Nefarian a special interaction with them. Now they would have to give the new class a class hall and new covenant spells, otherwise it wouldn't be "Blizzard quality" or what's left of it.

    It'd very naive to not expect some if not a lot of people to revisit Legion/BfA/Shadowlands with a new class, and if and when they do then it's going to feel raw and unfinished if a lot of the expansion's elements are missing.

    Either way this is what I think. I'm seeing Blizzard trying something along the lines of elite specializations like GW2 did, as opposed to introducing a new class. That would solve some of the awkward interactions with Legion and Shadowlands, at least.
    A potential new class doesn't need to have Legion Order Halls.

    DK's didn't have anything added after their introduction. (bar the S4 set)
    Monks didn't have anything added after their introduction.
    DH's didn't have anything added after their introduction.

    Seeing the pattern here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    A potential new class doesn't need to have Legion Order Halls.

    DK's didn't have anything added after their introduction. (bar the S4 set)
    Monks didn't have anything added after their introduction.
    DH's didn't have anything added after their introduction.

    Seeing the pattern here?
    Exactly. It would be a reduced experience, but it would work nonetheless-

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