1. #5021
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I don’t know, an entire patch just to rescue Anduin sounds pretty excessive as well and not exciting at all.
    I think Anduin will be one of the Sepulcher bosses. Aside from maybe winged Denathrius we don’t have any contenders for a pre-final boss. So it’ll be Puppet Anduin then Zovaal.

    This is just assuming the raid is in some foreign plane. If it’s in Northrend there could be a LOT of characters there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    They wont risk a live event, pandemic aside. They wont risk booing and hard questions.
    ???
    There won't be a live audience, its another Blizzconline.

    When i say they should properly organize it, i meant giving every team enough time to properly shwocase their new stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    ???
    There won't be a live audience, its another Blizzconline.

    When i say they should properly organize it, i meant giving every team enough time to properly shwocase their new stuff.
    They will show new stuff if they actually have something to show. Blizz has issues with that lately.
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  4. #5024
    Actually, consider that the Sanctum raid is 9 Zovaal/Maw themed bosses and one First One robot, what in the world will the theme of the 9.2 raid be?

    Yes, Tomb and Antorus both were demons, but they had a diversity of themes. I don’t know if they will do an entirely First One raid that features Zovaal.

  5. #5025
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    I think Anduin will be one of the Sepulcher bosses. Aside from maybe winged Denathrius we don’t have any contenders for a pre-final boss. So it’ll be Puppet Anduin then Zovaal.

    This is just assuming the raid is in some foreign plane. If it’s in Northrend there could be a LOT of characters there.
    I mean Helya and Muezhala still exist… I don’t know if we’ll make use of them, but it seems weird to just leave them out of the climax of this expansion.

    Besides that, Arthas could be either a boss in the form of Shadow of the Lich King or a helpful NPC while rescuing Anduin. What I just meant is that 9.1 already was nothing new. Same faces, same architecture, same environment. And then another patch with Anduin and all that death stuff? And then the final patch with the Jailer and the death stuff? Sounds way too much overall with the same theme. Every expansion at least had variety in that regard and in Shadowlands I don’t see it. Granted, Castle Nathria was something completely different. For me even Nighthold, Tomb of Sargeras with Antorus following was using the same tropes a little too much. And I have no idea how they could shake that up after the Maw / SoD and the things to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    Actually, consider that the Sanctum raid is 9 Zovaal/Maw themed bosses and one First One robot, what in the world will the theme of the 9.2 raid be?

    Yes, Tomb and Antorus both were demons, but they had a diversity of themes. I don’t know if they will do an entirely First One raid that features Zovaal.
    Funny how you’re tackling the same stuff here, I just saw your post after I posted mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    They will show new stuff if they actually have something to show. Blizz has issues with that lately.
    Funny enough, Diablo Immortal might be ready by that time and I guess it’ll get another spot right there.
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  6. #5026
    If 9.2 is Northrend they have a lot of material. If it’s somewhere in the Realms of Life they also have a lot of material.

    If it’s just First One robots..... eh. Unsure. But it COULD be Titan/Constellar themed and have a lot to work with. I think this also lines up with the dev comments that we may see a Titan afterlife, as well as the fact we still have yet to see what killed the Arbiter/theories it may have been Argus.
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  7. #5027
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    If 9.2 is Northrend they have a lot of material. If it’s somewhere in the Realms of Life they also have a lot of material.

    If it’s just First One robots..... eh. Unsure. But it COULD be Titan/Constellar themed and have a lot to work with. I think this also lines up with the dev comments that we may see a Titan afterlife, as well as the fact we still have yet to see what killed the Arbiter/theories it may have been Argus.
    If we go to Northrend please give us the Zuldrak Troll raid we didn’t get in WotLK. You could even incorporate Bwonsamdi there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    They will show new stuff if they actually have something to show. Blizz has issues with that lately.
    ... ok?
    I'm trying to say that the stuff they do show doesn't need to be showcased in a rushed 30 minute presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    If we go to Northrend please give us the Zuldrak Troll raid we didn’t get in WotLK. You could even incorporate Bwonsamdi there.
    We already killed the only named boss from there in ToT ^^ RIP Frostking Malak ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    Do we still think this is a 2 patch expansion by the way? I think it is and that it was planned to be that way, based on how much of .1 was in launch and how much of the Shadowlands zone stories are finished.
    I personally do, and hope so!

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    At this point a World Revamp expansion of any sort is going to be a personal gift to the hype threads of the past few years. I'm assuming it will eventually happen, so we might have to wait a few more decades, but it will be worth it.
    Amen... I hope our wait will eventually be worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Amen... I hope our wait will eventually be worth it!
    The real fun begins when we are waiting for the next world revamp after the world revamp

  12. #5032
    Tuesday is exciting as it’s both the first lore bomb that hasn’t been spoiled by the PTR, as well as the “end” of casual content for those who are only subbed for story stuff ( a lot of people). So even if it’s vague about what the next patch will be (I doubt it) we’ll hear from the devs sooner than later. Maybe even as soon as Gamescom this month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    The real fun begins when we are waiting for the next world revamp after the world revamp
    Oh boy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    Tuesday is exciting as it’s both the first lore bomb that hasn’t been spoiled by the PTR, as well as the “end” of casual content for those who are only subbed for story stuff ( a lot of people). So even if it’s vague about what the next patch will be (I doubt it) we’ll hear from the devs sooner than later. Maybe even as soon as Gamescom this month.
    Afaik Blizzard isn’t attending Gamescom. And with the lawsuit, better so. They lost a couple of partners for Overwatch League, I’m sure nobody would be amused if Blizzard is attending anything at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    We already killed the only named boss from there in ToT ^^ RIP Frostking Malak ....
    That’s really sad, love me some good old troll raids.
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  15. #5035
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Afaik Blizzard isn’t attending Gamescom. And with the lawsuit, better so. They lost a couple of partners for Overwatch League, I’m sure nobody would be amused if Blizzard is attending anything at the moment.
    I really don't think Blizzard is blacklisted or not allowed to attend events... sure they may stay out of the public eye but they aren't going to go underground. I don't think any company that's been targeted has (Ubisoft, Riot, etc).

    Especially not when the main problem after the harassment itself (the Activision response) has been mostly dealt with and people are back to work.

  16. #5036
    Blizzard has stated before that seeds of future expansions are planted in past and current content. So there's a fair bet that some of the story threads in shadowlands and bfa are gonna give a clue as to what comes next.

    Elune and the night elves
    what caused the arbiter to go dormant
    the dreadlords (I don't trust lothraxion anymore)
    arthas
    the void attacking bastion
    azshara going somewhere

    these are just a few of the threads i've picked up on that might lead somewhere.
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  17. #5037
    Quote Originally Posted by Aenwyrm View Post
    Blizzard has stated before that seeds of future expansions are planted in past and current content. So there's a fair bet that some of the story threads in shadowlands and bfa are gonna give a clue as to what comes next.

    Elune and the night elves
    what caused the arbiter to go dormant
    the dreadlords (I don't trust lothraxion anymore)
    arthas
    the void attacking bastion
    azshara going somewhere

    these are just a few of the threads i've picked up on that might lead somewhere.
    Wrathion + Dragon Isles is a likely candidate also.

  18. #5038
    Quote Originally Posted by Xorzor View Post
    It is curious that Anduin, even when allegedly mind-controlled, would just drop the compass and forget about it. Unless doing so was deliberate?

    An older cutscene where Sylvanas threatens Anduin with Kingsmourne may have had additional dialogue towards the end before it cut to black. I'm not saying they forgot to add it in, but that it was intentionally left out, and could be revealed at a later time. In that cutscene it did seem that Sylvanas faltered a little, as if Anduin's words were getting to her. Perhaps the two of them came up with a plan to screw over Zovaal?
    I rewatched the cinematic
    Sylvanas looks over at him almost expecting something

    I think Anduin managed to hang on and is a double agent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    Wrathion + Dragon Isles is a likely candidate also.
    Especially with the isle expedition stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    I rewatched the cinematic
    Sylvanas looks over at him almost expecting something

    I think Anduin managed to hang on and is a double agent
    Oh, that's highly unlikely he fooling Jailer while running around harming his allies and friends. Why would he pretend and at the same time get Sigils for the guy? Jailer wouldn't be able to get them w/o him.
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  20. #5040
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Oh, that's highly unlikely he fooling Jailer while running around harming his allies and friends. Why would he pretend and at the same time get Sigils for the guy? Jailer wouldn't be able to get them w/o him.
    Not to mention during the prmius fight he literally puppeteered him and even talked through him. If he could have broken free, then he should have done so before attacking the archon and taking the second sigil. No wait, actually that is exactly the kind of perpetual plothole writing we've seen until now. I guess that could happen.
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