It must be fun for this guy to larp as a dev and pretend he's someone important for a change.
(Un)fortunately, I doubt the devs have ever cared about this toxic shithole to pay it any mind.
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A scenario about Galakrond’s death was datamimed and there may be a sly reference to Galakrond in the Ysera “dream” flashback (a giant death drake called Azeroths Demise”).
There is also a questline about Dark Rangers investigating the Scarlets that has been in the files since BFA and is starting to make more sense now (with Calia and Turalyon implying there will be Lordaeron focus soon)
Just being on page 300 does kinda underline how little activity general speculation gas had in this expansion, doesn't it.
Still, a milestone is a milestone. Nice to be on 300 pages. Let's try to make that at least 400 before 9.2 launches.
The world revamp dream will never die!
Shadowlands has been strange so far. You'd expect an expansion about infinite afterlives to have more patch content dedicated to those new afterlife zones, but we're likely going to end up with just Korthia + Zereth Mortis, and no real afterlife exploration post-9.0, which is a shame imo.
I think it's fine because the only really glaring "missing afterlife" is for Shamans, and that can end up being lumped into the Life realms in a later expansion or could be it's own thing that's separate from the Shadowlands.
People clearly, VOCALLY aren't that fond of the Shadowlands setting and want to return to Azeroth, so Blizzard is doing the right thing by not stretching stuff out.
Shadowlands feels more about wrapping up old stories than creating new ones. I think it's fine but it makes for less clear speculation on the next expac (besides the Light stuff coming back). Edit: For me personally it gets me excited for the new stories that will come next but I'm aware people don't have much faith in them or for some reason think we're never going back to Azeroth.
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I think it's for the best tbh, there are already so many glaring plotholes for the 5 major zones, it's probably best not trying to destroy the hope that the rest of the shadowlands works on any sensible principles. It would just invite many more questions about the actual workings of the shadowlands, the basic logicists, the anima and the overall purpose of it all. It's a losing battle and keeping some of the mysticism of the afterlife can only be good for the franchise.
You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
By the way, I do wonder if it wasn't so much that Shadowlands was planned to be shorter but they made it so that if people responded well they could add another afterlife or two, and if not they could just go straight to the First One plane and end it.
If we end Shadowlands in 9.2 I don't think we have any glaring "missing content" like WoD where stuff obviously just got cancelled.
I think we'll get a 9.3. Even if it's just a trumped up Ruby Sanctum patch to transition us to the next expansion. Ion's pride will not allow him to have SL be seen as another WoD.
The most obvious one venthyr priest ( san' layn talent, vampiric spells) being vampires themselves seems odd to be left out.
I have a feeling if they ever become playable it will oy be venthyt and kyrian. The other 2 dont have one real species to focus on, instead they have multiple and none of them realy stand out imo. I mewn these gladiators are just kul tiran models for example and night fea have fairies and female drenaei model. I wouldnt mind if they left out necrolords and night fea.
Gasp!
Are you, perhaps, implying that MMO-Champion is not the single most wholesome, non-toxic, and constructive community among the whole playerbase? Do you mean that MMO-Champion is honestly pretty small relative to the likes of, say, the actual fucking forums?
Though, to play Devil's Advocate, I do think that most expansion leaks do actually happen on MMO-Champion. I think this is too much detail (usually it's just an overview of the major systems and the lore, not talk about the situations inside Blizzard proper), but it's not entirely out-of-character. He does lend himself some credibility with the mention of more customization in direct contrast to Ion's statement; a point which was later vindicated. However, a lot of it also sounds like Barnum Statements relying upon the same expectations players already have; that Blizzard is some coterie of corporate scrooges drooling over charts, because good business = bad. They also seem to somewhat skim over the fact we recently found out about that Blizzard has historically been a corrupt cesspit of depraved sex offenders, and I am a little curious as to how that's affecting the mood inside Blizzard.
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The Kyrian are modeled after the female Vrykul, both sexes. Venthyr are the only one where the race really "starts from scratch" in terms of their model, though all four races have some unique animations/poses and have male/female.
Kyrian: Female Vrykul
Sylvari (Night Fae Dryads): Female Draenei
Venthyr: Brand New (makes sense considering they were the focus of the first raid, want them to be special)
Maldraxxi Gladiators: Kul Tiran male and female (though male have some unique animations)
None of them can actually equip armor yet so they clearly weren't ready at launch, but there's a slight chance they'll all become playable (and likely unlockable through max renown: I think this would be really cool and both make sense lorewise for a recruitment thing AND encourage people to roll alts and experience the other covenants).
Last edited by Nagawithlegs; 2021-08-26 at 02:04 PM.
They made up this trap themselves. Infinite afterlives, and we just get to visit these four plus the Maw - in which afterlife scenario does this make any sense? So infinite afterlives after all, but only four matter and conveniently only those four have Covenants etc? Uhm… the glaring issues with lore and storytelling were obvious the moment they brought this infinite statement into play as they would have never been able to fulfill it. I think Island Expedition technology here could have worked nicely with procedural generated smaller afterlives. This would have made the infinite afterlives approach way more reasonable than it is now. Like No Man‘s Sky but in a way smaller way.
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Covid breakout was during the ongoing development of Shadowlands. I think Blizzard would have a really bad project planning if they did not even consider the option to just have 9.1 and 9.2 as content patches and end the expansion in on 9.2 or 9.2.5 instead of 9.3.
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