1. #6161
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Survivor class.... I have to imagine that's just some kind of testing thing, right? Like what would a Survivor Class even do that Hunters don't already?

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    Well I see MassivelyOP is officially saying that the ripcord is pulled and you can hot swap covenants with 0 consequence.

    More reasons to not touch Shadowlands. Min-Maxers win again.
    Well at least you would need to refarm all the 80 renown levels to be able to swap easily, and we don't actually know how painless the swap is. Could be that it still has an internal cooldown to prevent abusing it to an absurd degree, but I guess we will find out next week.
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  2. #6162
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Redridge was kinda dumb, but it at least had a really solid questline that took you across the entire map in a believable way. It started small, it had big moments, and it ended with fighting a dragon in a castle.

    Uldum was all the bad with none of the good. At best it had the mildly amusing questline with the turkey.
    Uldum had too many big set pieces and not enough grounding. You spend too much time going from one elaborate ruin to another elaborate ruin without the context for those ruins to be much else big ruins. It should have had more side quest hubs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Man that would have been cool if that was the case. But leveling's so easy anyway it wouldn't have mattered if you lost 2 hours deciding you hate mage.
    I mean isn't the implication here that you'd play through Exile's Reach and then towards the end/afterwards pick a specific class?

  3. #6163
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Might have been a way to test abilities without putting them on an existing class and screwing them up as a result. Or a way for devs to test stuff on their end without releasing it to players via PTR.
    That's a pretty good theory. But why call it "Survivor" and not something more internal, like "TestClass" or "AbilityControl"?

  4. #6164
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Although you have been proven correct on this particular guess, you still seem a little confused as to what constitutes a sufficient body of evidence. This seems more analogous to the Barnum Effect; the effect when an observer applies a vague and generalized statement, and then mistakenly believes it is a narrow and specific statement that is personally-tailored to them. In a similar way, you've made a statement that is vague and generalized, yet circumstances have proven sufficient to lend credit to what little was said. The only options are that the patch would be good, bad, or mediocre. A one-in-three likelihood of being correct is pretty weighed in your favor, especially given outside intervention and circumstances.

    This is credit to you, but your track record remains heavily blemished and I doubt this is enough to provide sufficient credit to your statements to an extent that you could be considered credible.
    I see so since WoD I am just talking out of my arse and been wrong a total of 2 our of 30 times? ok
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  5. #6165
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Oh you don't need to tell me that. There is a long standing observation that I share that, that they do this shit also so they can score easy "wins" ​down the road.
    I wouldnt necessarily say easy wins in the really cynical sense, but rather that the developers knows that giving us everything would make us dislike the expansion even more, and by giving us the things we wanted later they are giving players a double dose of "new stuff", instead of a single slightly larger dose with nothing to stave off the withdrawals the rest of the expansion.
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  6. #6166
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I'm amazed you can manage to type out a post while sucking your own dick that hard. See you next posting session for when you """""predict"""" something is going to be "soon" and then jerk off about it happening at any point between 1 and 52 weeks from that point.
    lol I love you fine young men and women of MMO. Cya for the 9.2 stuff
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  7. #6167
    Survivor? Hm.

    Mistborn collab? (Kidding)

  8. #6168
    Quote Originally Posted by towelliee View Post
    June would be optimistic. Still June..ish. What can I say TBC messed up a lot of the timing.

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    Vague and obvious yet all I heard from customization posts was 9.1.5 jokes on how bad it is. Y'all just need to realize I'm the truth.
    ahahaha alright my dude. Whatever you say!

  9. #6169
    The system simply has not played out the way we hoped it would.
    I wonder how many times I've heard this kind of line from them, over the years?

  10. #6170
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    I wonder how many times I've heard this kind of line from them, over the years?
    They should probably do less hoping and more thinking. More negativity in the dojo would also help suppress the unwarranted optimism.
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  11. #6171
    Quote Originally Posted by towelliee View Post
    lol I love you fine young men and women of MMO. Cya for the 9.2 stuff
    Let me save you the trouble:
    "They're gonna make some changes to the stuff you guys have been complaining about." You should probably go ahead and tweet that now though, rather than waiting to predict something is gonna happen after the devs have already announced it or the community has already narrowed it down.

  12. #6172
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Because some of y'all clearly need to calm down a bit (like, really, there's enough negativity going around already, get a grip), here's that thing 1-2 people wanted yesterday or so regarding 'mystery content'. Still a WIP as I'm only listing things from memory without actually going through patches/message history yet. Will probably expand on it this weekend.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...-C8XWzbu8H30k/
    Kalimdor map is pretty hype.

  13. #6173
    So far it's campaign skip for alts, free covenant and conduit swapping, Legion timewalking, and some new customization options for a few races. So far, I'm not impressed. I see 0 reason to return in 9.1.5 currently.

    This patch to me looks like a patch that will make people happy if they already like and play Shadowlands but have some issues with it. None of this is bringing back the millions who left. Full patch notes might prove me wrong but it's looking like it's the long haul wait for 9.2 for those of us with actual standards.

  14. #6174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    Kalimdor map is pretty hype.
    Could be a very simple dev test, haven't looked if there's actually something there that's interesting yet.

  15. #6175
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    So far it's campaign skip for alts, free covenant and conduit swapping, Legion timewalking, and some new customization options for a few races. So far, I'm not impressed. I see 0 reason to return in 9.1.5 currently.

    This patch to me looks like a patch that will make people happy if they already like and play Shadowlands but have some issues with it. None of this is bringing back the millions who left. Full patch notes might prove me wrong but it's looking like it's the long haul wait for 9.2 for those of us with actual standards.
    9.2 isn't going to bring back anyone who dislikes Shadowlands either, and Blizz knows it. It's a matter of when they'll show 10.0.

  16. #6176
    They should just make threads of fate 1-60 and allow you to level up in Shadowlands from the start. If people wanna do Torghast leveling 1-60 let them do it. But probably too hard to implement for a minor patch. Who cares.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    9.2 isn't going to bring back anyone who dislikes Shadowlands either, and Blizz knows it. It's a matter of when they'll show 10.0.
    No point speculating like this when we know nothing about 9.2. It certainly could. My hype for 10.0 is pretty deflated at this point. It could ruin way more things than it fixes, as is usual with their newer expansions.

  17. #6177
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    None of this is bringing back the millions who left. Full patch notes might prove me wrong but it's looking like it's the long haul wait for 9.2 for those of us with actual standards.
    Well, what would get those "with actual standards" back to the game, in your opinion?

    So, personal opinion on the datamined Galakrond's Fall map after looking at it; given that there are no Dragonshrines and no Galakrond corpse, I figure this is actually for some kind of flashback to when the Aspects killed Galakrond.
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  18. #6178
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Well, what would get those "with actual standards" back to the game, in your opinion?
    A good game.

  19. #6179
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    A good game.
    That's a vague statement and adds nothing to your criticism. Critique is only valid if you can present points in your favor and exact criteria for improvement.

  20. #6180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    9.2 isn't going to bring back anyone who dislikes Shadowlands either, and Blizz knows it. It's a matter of when they'll show 10.0.
    Hate would be a better word but even haters or the most vocal ones are going to be curious. Its in their nature.
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