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  1. #601
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Lich King Anduin does look really cool in that.

    Sylvanas being teased a redemption is still a whole load of bullshit though. She burned down Teldrassil and willingly damned billions of souls to the Maw, if there is anyone less deserving a redemption it is her.

    I guess it does make more sense that it is mond control rather than undead. They are already in the afterlife, not sure how making him undead would even work. Would they send his corpse back to Azeroth so they could revive him? Surely if they killed him in the Shadowlands then he would just be fully dead Anduin.
    Sylvanas can still get a redemption on a personal level while being punished (death or eternal torture) for her bazillion atrocities.

    She's always been a character that cared about things and people on an individual level but did not care about numbers or statistics (aka the entirety of Teldrassil).

  2. #602
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    Sylvanas can still get a redemption on a personal level while being punished (death or eternal torture) for her bazillion atrocities.

    She's always been a character that cared about things and people on an individual level but did not care about numbers or statistics (aka the entirety of Teldrassil).
    I guess the problem is that there isnt really a moment that we can point to where she definitively realizes that what she is doing is evil.
    We could of course assume that she started having doubts once she actually went to the Maw and saw the souls there and realized the true extent of her sheer villainy, but it still doesnt gel with her characterization in BtS or BfA.

    Remember, this is a person that killed her own people because they were not truly forsaken by finding happiness reuniting with their loved ones. She raised Derek as a slave, violating her own stated principles on the importance of free will to make him an assassin meant for killing his own family. Raised Night Elves that she herself killed to kill more of their own.

    The problem is that Blizzard made her too evil in BfA. Her acts of villainy is on par with penultimate evils like Sargeras.


    Maybe the WoW: What's next panel will shed some light though. One can hope I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    The Torghast raid seems more to me like a surgical strike, probably oriented around rescuing Anduin and less an outright attack on the Jailer and his army.

    That certainly is coming, with the covenant storyline thing, but that's still getting set up.
    This feels more like the other Covenant leaders saying fuck it, and straight up attacking the Jailer. This entire raid seems like a massive ploy by the Jailer in order to gain the other keys from the covenant leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    Sylvanas can still get a redemption on a personal level while being punished (death or eternal torture) for her bazillion atrocities.

    She's always been a character that cared about things and people on an individual level but did not care about numbers or statistics (aka the entirety of Teldrassil).
    I assume she'll die going against the Jailer.

  4. #604
    Ok here are some of my guesses:

    We might get a Cata World revamp 2.0 (basing this on the datamined Stormwind HD textures)
    New Allied races and new customization for them (since they said that they will add it for them plus I hope we get the Mogu because they mentioned them during BfA)
    Either a new class or something like class halls from Legion
    Remember, they added a new class every 2 expansion. Not adding one in SL means that they're planning something big, though I doubt that we will see new specs
    Light as the main antagonist ( again with the 2 expansion rule, they talked about Legion and the Titans in MoP etc...)

  5. #605
    Ion looks like he should be on his deathbed.

  6. #606
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    Ion looks like he should be on his deathbed.
    *looks at expansion theme*

    Fitting?
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  7. #607
    Now sylvanas has to kill arthas , to free my boy. (win/win situation)
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  8. #608
    These are the worst what's next panels ever.

  9. #609
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    Well they just confirmed the Eye of the Jailer is Odyn's Eye.
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  10. #610
    Kel'thuzad is indeed one of the bosses in the raid.

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    "Sylvanas is not like Garrosh. She is not a raid boss."

    Well that was another lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Well they just confirmed the Eye of the Jailer is Odyn's Eye.
    That is honestly a really cool development, didn't expect that.

  13. #613
    Kinda excited and confused by that Infinite Pirate Dragon.

  14. #614
    That mount from the broker megadungeon is literally just the mage class mount, the hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    That is honestly a really cool development, didn't expect that.
    Saw some people speculating on it a few days ago. I'll admit it makes sense now that we've said it, just hope it doesn't mean more Odeen quotes.
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    Infinite Pirate Dragon.



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    You know, I'd be fine if Blizz just stopped producing mounts and just gave players more transmog gear.
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    The whole fucking panel is just a cosmetic showcase.

    Muffin boy is disappointing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    The whole fucking panel is just a cosmetic showcase.

    Muffin boy is disappointing me.
    There's no Q&A so IDK why they feel the need to rush through these.

    Though I do push back on the people saying this is light for a patch reveal. Feels about right.

    Anyway we all in agreement on April 20th for the patch?
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  20. #620
    I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed that the covenant flying mounts aren't actual themed wings.

    Would have been neat.

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