1. #6841
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    Pointless performativity is pointless.

    Maybe they should focus on treating their employees better and work on their relationship with the playerbase, than waste time browsing through decade old achievement names that no one gives a fuck about and change lore related dialogue.

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  2. #6842
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Pointless performativity is pointless.

    Maybe they should focus on treating their employees better and work on their relationship with the playerbase, than waste time browsing through decade old achievement names that no one gives a fuck about and change lore related dialogue.
    People will say they can "walk and chew gum at the same time". But when we don't see any publicized changes to work environment, contracts, or any of the demands that employees have protested for, and we get trivial, performative in-game changes instead, it's hard not to consider it empty pandering to assuage the public and deflect from the actual issues.

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    Anyway, I'm all for progressive values and reevaluating yourself and your content. But you should still be able to write and portray racist characters, or characters with racist behaviors, if you're telling a story about racism, or where it at least factors into the story. Sanitizing the game from all of those very real issues actually does a disservice to social justice and progress in my opinion. Talking about it and exploring it in storytelling is certainly better than pretending it doesn't exist.

    I understand they want to preserve the escapism of the game for everyone, including marginalized communities who might have felt it hitting too close to home when reading dialog from bigoted characters. And that's fair. But it's hard to have any kind of meaningful storytelling that way, especially in a setting of war between disparate groups. It sort of chips away at many of the benefits of their narrative, like humanizing the "other", making heroes out of discriminated groups, taking a somber look at the analogous real world events that inspired them, etc. They're stories of tenacity and compassion despite adversity and racism. Personaly I find that to serve a greater social purpose than a game stripped of it, but that's just my opinion.

  3. #6843
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Hard disagree. There was nothing enjoyable about dungeons being "pull every pack before the boss and spam AoE spell", burn boss, repeat. They didn't even feel like dungeons at that point
    It hasn’t changed though
    Even in S1 you would just pull a big group and aoe them for pride then use pride for another big pull

    It gets difficult the higher the key which is always the case and either you were in a group that overwhelmed that level of dungeon or you barely succeeded

    The only real difference the aoe cap made was bringing uncapped classes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    I'd be a little critical of that assumption. Keep in mind that dragons are a very common type of mount, so it's possible they're just doing this for that reason. If it doesn't include any new content, I'd be suspect of it. The Astral armor is more indicative of future plotlines because it has actual effort put into it in the spirit of new content, as opposed to simply being a bundle of preexisting mounts.
    The bundle has a theme and there’s a new sprite darter pet

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngerFork View Post
    Really hoping this doesn't mean they are locking part of the 9.1.5 content behind the Mission Table. It's been notably worse this expansion & I suspect I'm not alone in largely ignoring it to this point.
    The materials missions are why I don’t have a gatherer

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Oh ffs. Well, I called it. The predictability of the sheer utter laziness at Blizzard is so depressing some times.
    When has a tw mount been anything but basic for that expansion

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    Quote Originally Posted by zantheus1993 View Post
    When has a tw mount been anything but basic for that expansion




    Even the Elephant was a bit fireier so people actually wanted it.



    +Though it's a recolour I'd argue the Green Serpent is iconic to the expansion so was much sought after.

    I'm just saying there are other Legion mounts that would have been much cooler to add and people would actually be using..





    I'd say these were both pretty iconic legion mounts that were never given to players so were good candidates.

    Or for an outlier...
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  5. #6845
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Removing racism between in game factions is extremely stupid, the entire game is built on the foundation of racism to some extent, Orcs have been called Greenskin/Blackbloods for decades.



    Genocide? Excused if you're a pretty woman.
    A heckin racismerino in a game founded on themes like military conquest, interspecies conflict, slavery and in some cases even rape? Now we're going too far. Execute that man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    Blizzard is removing Trollbane's racism, for no apparent reason.
    https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...11805541089280
    Your link gives a rather likely reason being copy write conflicts with games workshop which makes sense as they have been going scorched earth on copy write the last few months.
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    We already have multiple hippogryphs. A non-faction and non-class restricted Felbat would have been cool.


  8. #6848
    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    How long till they remove Illdian's and Elisande's harem room? Or remove Succubi?
    Dont give them ideas...

    Oo nvm to late.
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  9. #6849
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Yeah, gimme that one and screw the lame hippogryph.
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

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    https://www.wowhead.com/news/recolor...h-9-1-5-324042

    Apparently there are recolored tomb sets for TW, probably for another KSM.

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  11. #6851
    I wonder if the reason there are absolutely no Burning Legion items or mounts in Legion TW is because they have heard how sick people are of cosmic stuff? It would make sense for them to focus on the elf stuff people liked in Legion instead.

    There’s even a place in Maldraxxus where a Legion invasion is hinted at but not confirmed by name. For some reason they really don’t want to say their name.
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  12. #6852
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    I wonder if the reason there are absolutely no Burning Legion items or mounts in Legion TW is because they have heard how sick people are of cosmic stuff? It would make sense for them to focus on the elf stuff people liked in Legion instead.
    I don't think a few vocal people is enough for them to dictate what gets added to Legion TW. I don't see the logic in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    I don't think a few vocal people is enough for them to dictate what gets added to Legion TW. I don't see the logic in it.
    People have been screaming for more Azeroth stuff this expansion and the TW event for expansion about the Burning Legion lacks the Legion in any way. Its the only reason I can think of.

  14. #6854
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    People have been screaming for more Azeroth stuff this expansion and the TW event for expansion about the Burning Legion lacks the Legion in any way. Its the only reason I can think of.
    But those are vastly different things. The Legion is still very iconic to WoW, and much of the criticism of Shadowlands comes from the lack of relevancy the new villains hold.

  15. #6855
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    https://www.wowhead.com/news/recolor...h-9-1-5-324042

    Apparently there are recolored tomb sets for TW, probably for another KSM.
    Hopefully not a KSM.. with the event happening like 3 times a year this is going to be such a pain..
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    Hopefully not a KSM.. with the event happening like 3 times a year this is going to be such a pain..
    KSM would also make it character specific.

    Imagine having to get to 2k on all your characters for this lol.

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  17. #6857
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    KSM would also make it character specific.

    Imagine having to get to 2k on all your characters for this lol.
    Oh God, please no. Would be nice as vendor reward though. Something actually interesting to buy there for a change.
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

  18. #6858
    Quote Originally Posted by Haidaes View Post
    Oh God, please no. Would be nice as vendor reward though. Something actually interesting to buy there for a change.
    I could see a middle option where maybe you get an achievement for doing something comparatively eaasy, like a single +10 or +15 in time for one of the dungeons, with the transmog locked behind that.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

  19. #6859
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    But those are vastly different things. The Legion is still very iconic to WoW, and much of the criticism of Shadowlands comes from the lack of relevancy the new villains hold.
    Ironically Zovaal is supposed to be really relevant but because htey are being so "sneaky" with the writing it makes him look like he's done nothing and is unimportant.

    The fact that they hid the Nathrezim until the first patch is ridiculous because it would've established the link between SL and Warcraft very very easily... but no, you had to piece together they were involved from little things like the lore book in one tower and the naming scheme of Nathria. Horribly missed opportunity. Zovaal should've been revealed as the first arbiter much earlier. No big lore figures like Arthas, Ner'zhul or the Nine Valkyr appear at launch.

    They need to knock it off with the sneaky lore, it appeals to a tiny amount of fans.
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  20. #6860
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    Ironically Zovaal is supposed to be really relevant but because htey are being so "sneaky" with the writing it makes him look like he's done nothing and is unimportant.

    The fact that they hid the Nathrezim until the first patch is ridiculous because it would've established the link between SL and Warcraft very very easily... but no, you had to piece together they were involved from little things like the lore book in one tower and the naming scheme of Nathria. Horribly missed opportunity. Zovaal should've been revealed as the first arbiter much earlier.

    They need to knock it off with the sneaky lore, it appeals to a tiny amount of fans.
    Even if they had done that, the issue is simply that he came out nowhere with this expansion (we are only at the first patch as well). Making him the über-mastermind behind everything in the core of the franchise is something you can't do without preperation. You can do that with an established character and a clever betrayal, not with a badly written nobody we never heared about before last year and have known for one patch. That we had contact with him once directly just adds to all that.
    #1) MMO-C should be glad that the British Empire is no more, because they'd want a piece of all the copium trade here.
    #2) Angry players come to the forums to complain about the game... but what loser only comes to the forums to complain about the forums and its users?
    #3)Felating Blizzard too eagerly may lead to oxygen deficiency and worst case asphyxiation. Long-term effects range from delusions up to cerebral necrosis. #4) The WoW playerbase doesn't deserve housing.

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