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  1. #1461
    I mean... Azeroth is all the Jailer wanted. The creation of the Lich King happened because the Jailer wanted Azeroth. So who really doesn’t expect Shadowlands to end on Azeroth?
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    Its not really shitty but @_@ whatever
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  3. #1463
    What’s going on with Korthia? How’s that zone goin?

  4. #1464
    So, we’re having many heavyweights (Nerzhul, Kelthuzad, Sylvanas) in the SoD raid. Which prominent characters are left? Anduin, Malganis, Arthas, Muezhala and Jailer. There’s not much left for two more raids when it comes to important / big lore characters.
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  5. #1465
    There's also Helya. But really, they only need 1 or 2 notable ones per raid so they've got enough.

  6. #1466
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    So, we’re having many heavyweights (Nerzhul, Kelthuzad, Sylvanas) in the SoD raid. Which prominent characters are left? Anduin, Malganis, Arthas, Muezhala and Jailer. There’s not much left for two more raids when it comes to important / big lore characters.
    Hleya, Denathrius, Mal’Ganis, Mueh’Zala, etc. we still could add in some new characters too.

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  8. #1468
    Even after they squished ilvl they STILL HAVE THE HUGE GAP!!!

    Well guys get ready for another number squish next expansion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    So, we’re having many heavyweights (Nerzhul, Kelthuzad, Sylvanas) in the SoD raid. Which prominent characters are left? Anduin, Malganis, Arthas, Muezhala and Jailer. There’s not much left for two more raids when it comes to important / big lore characters.
    Still have to deal with Anduin
    Still got helya
    The devourers

    It looks like we get the primus back at least

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    A lot of old Elwynn Forest buildings have been updated to HD, like the Human Inns. I don't think they applied them to the old world yet, but they are in the files.

    https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1382149627575685120
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  10. #1470
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    A lot of old Elwynn Forest buildings have been updated to HD, like the Human Inns. I don't think they applied them to the old world yet, but they are in the files.

    https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1382149627575685120
    Yep. Starting to wonder if a world revamp is indeed coming.

    The buildings look great, btw. Very cozy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Not happening. Stormwind isn't built to serve as a raid. Look at it, it's too cramped up, too many small streets and alleys, and very few big open areas. Orgrimmar made more sense as a raid because it's much more open as a city. Same thing for Dazar'alor.
    What? No no no no. Geeze have we forgotten the infamous Siege of Stormwind already?

    It was a map that was datamined back during WoD I believe. People immediately assumed "well it's in the map files so it must be a future raid, to mirror Siege of Orgrimmar."

    About two expansions later it was removed. Turns out it was literally just a test map.

    I would never trust a map file, especially one that overtly says test, to mean anything re future plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    A lot of old Elwynn Forest buildings have been updated to HD, like the Human Inns. I don't think they applied them to the old world yet, but they are in the files.

    https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/1382149627575685120
    Oh huh well hello sexy.

    Up to you if I mean the building, the parrot, or the dwarf.

    Well that certainly lends more credence to an HD world update. I wouldn't say it confirms any kind of major questing revamp though.
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  12. #1472
    Quote Originally Posted by razorpax View Post
    Even after they squished ilvl they STILL HAVE THE HUGE GAP!!!

    Well guys get ready for another number squish next expansion
    You mean just like every previous time? When are you people going to learn.

  13. #1473
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    You mean just like every previous time? When are you people going to learn.
    I figured since they fuck up every squish they would save themselves future trouble and be ok with mythic of the previous tier not get replaced with normal gear

  14. #1474
    Interesting that the Kyrian covenant quests will take us back to Andorhal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Yep. Starting to wonder if a world revamp is indeed coming.

    The buildings look great, btw. Very cozy.
    I think it points to the opposite. That no single large world revamp is coming. Instead they will push piecemeal changes out like this over the course of a couple years. I mean, we're basically three quarters of the way there. All that's left is a new ground and environment texture, new tree and leaf models, and its done. They already revamped all the NPCs and the quests.

  15. #1475
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Interesting that the Kyrian covenant quests will take us back to Andorhal.

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    I think it points to the opposite. That no single large world revamp is coming. Instead they will push piecemeal changes out like this over the course of a couple years. I mean, we're basically three quarters of the way there. All that's left is a new ground and environment texture, new tree and leaf models, and its done. They already revamped all the NPCs and the quests.
    Would love to do the covenant quests...

    But the questline stops, and the other Korthia Quests get bugged at "Under the Illusion".

  16. #1476
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Interesting that the Kyrian covenant quests will take us back to Andorhal.

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    I think it points to the opposite. That no single large world revamp is coming. Instead they will push piecemeal changes out like this over the course of a couple years. I mean, we're basically three quarters of the way there. All that's left is a new ground and environment texture, new tree and leaf models, and its done. They already revamped all the NPCs and the quests.
    Frankly I'm surprised they didn't smuggle in a couple of reworked trees, flowers and flavor items (carts, shovels, etc) every now and then to replace the old ones whenever they train a new intern or learn in a new employee in their tools. Like their first task is to pick 5 old trees and update them to the new standards. Changing a few of the ultra low pologon trees and a few generic 100 times reused buildings (like the crpyt entrance) would go a looong way to make the old world look better.
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  17. #1477
    So is Lilian going to show up soon or what?
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  18. #1478
    As usual, item level jump is 2x difficulty (old Heroic = new LFR), this time it's 26 instead of 30 like in Legion/BfA. So looks like in 9.0 they made enough conduit levels to fill 5 seasons.

  19. #1479
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    So, we’re having many heavyweights (Nerzhul, Kelthuzad, Sylvanas) in the SoD raid. Which prominent characters are left? Anduin, Malganis, Arthas, Muezhala and Jailer. There’s not much left for two more raids when it comes to important / big lore characters.
    If we get two more after that I would bet on one of them being a side raid. It would probably be about the devourers and/or brokers. I feel like everyone in the story is kinda downplaying the alien invaders that literally eat away at the very foundations of the shadowlands.
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  20. #1480
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    I mean... Azeroth is all the Jailer wanted. The creation of the Lich King happened because the Jailer wanted Azeroth. So who really doesn’t expect Shadowlands to end on Azeroth?
    "Azeroth is what the Iron Horde wanted" -> Final raid is not on Azeroth
    "Azeroth is what the Legion wanted" -> Final raid is not on Azeroth
    "Azeroth is what N'Zoth wanted, in an expansion called Battle for AZEROTH" -> Final raid is not on Azeroth

    Actually now it's 3 times in a row where the final raid isn't taking place on Azeroth, Shadowlands will be the 4th.

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