1. #15361
    Quote Originally Posted by olddog View Post





    Zovaal's mace animation.
    Lol, I actually kind of love it.
    Make it a weapon drop and have the flair come out when you swing it.
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  2. #15362
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Sure, but i think most people expected something to Sylvanas' powers, where she waves her hands and chains appear.

    Not a magic flail with questionable design.
    And that is mutually exclusive how lmao? My god, people act like the flail is the only thing he has.

  3. #15363
    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post
    This is both hideous and awesome at the same time. I hate it. I love it.
    Woah I think it's really cool I love it.

  4. #15364
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    Woah I think it's really cool I love it.
    Make it a item that drops, then we are talking! Id do the raid every week to the ends of the earth.

  5. #15365
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    And that is mutually exclusive how lmao? My god, people act like the flail is the only thing he has.
    No, he does fall like a toddler as well. No idea how anyone can take this guy serious, he's a walking Rugrat at this point. His motivations are the same as theirs.
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  6. #15366
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    No, he does fall like a toddler as well. No idea how anyone can take this guy serious, he's a walking Rugrat at this point. His motivations are the same as theirs.
    Oh my god, WoW has subpar animations!!111
    More news at 10.

    Man, this constant bitching without seeing the whole picture...

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    He falls like his armor is heavy as fuck but even then we didn't see Sylvanas "fall" until like the end of the cinematic for her. People trying to reach harder then Reed Richard.
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  8. #15368
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    A lot of mixed messages lately. Biggest expansion ever which has been worked on since BFA 9.0 versus Maintenance Mode $40 DLC packs for each Season no more Expansions.
    Every expansion starts dev before the previous one is released. Shadowlands began before BFA launched.

    The story / theme / direction begins even farther back. The Shadowlands story arc was already sketched out before Legion launched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    People keep saying this but she never confronted Arthas after she *supposedly* regained control during the Third War: Arthas was in Icecrown & Sylvanas was still in the Eastern Kingdoms. She's clearly talking about the arrow she fired in the Sanctum of Domination. She never fired an arrow at Arthas. The WoWhead article even says its unclear who she's talking about but it's likely the Jailer.
    Imagine being dumb enough to believe wowhead content. Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    No, he does fall like a toddler as well. No idea how anyone can take this guy serious, he's a walking Rugrat at this point. His motivations are the same as theirs.
    So you are actually sure this is a finished animation we will see in-game when we bring him to 0%, instead of death cinematic we usually get? Because you seem to be overreacting hard and just wanting to shit on the guy on every occasion.
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  10. #15370
    Quote Originally Posted by Jokubas View Post
    On another note, I was just looking over the encounter journal and I'm a bit worried. I recall it originally being assumed that Arthas wouldn't be in the expansion at all, though the quote was more along the lines of "we're not going to put him in without respecting his story" or something. The encounter journal is implying Arthas might appear... as just some generic raid mechanic that's holding Anduin back. That feels like the exact situation they didn't want to do. It's worse than not including him at all, in my opinion.
    Have you done the Kyrian campaign? The one about manifesting and defeating manifestations of doubt as a means to achieving power?

    If you do the whole campaign/shadowland story you find that the Jailer is getting the runes from each covenant in the shadowlands to empower himself. This means the domination magic he uses is a combination of the powers of each covenant.

    Kyrians use magic to manifest doubt and remove memories
    Maldraxxi use magic to project confidence and honor memories
    Venthyr use magic to manifest pride and focus on individuality
    Ardenweald people use magic to project humility and focus on community

    These powers reflect each other. Freeing Anduin requires the intersection of them. Anduin being afraid of becoming Arthas (ie doubting himself) will be a factor.
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  11. #15371
    Quote Originally Posted by bullseyed View Post
    Have you done the Kyrian campaign? The one about manifesting and defeating manifestations of doubt as a means to achieving power?

    If you do the whole campaign/shadowland story you find that the Jailer is getting the runes from each covenant in the shadowlands to empower himself. This means the domination magic he uses is a combination of the powers of each covenant.

    Kyrians use magic to manifest doubt and remove memories
    Maldraxxi use magic to project confidence and honor memories
    Venthyr use magic to manifest pride and focus on individuality
    Ardenweald people use magic to project humility and focus on community

    These powers reflect each other. Freeing Anduin requires the intersection of them. Anduin being afraid of becoming Arthas (ie doubting himself) will be a factor.
    So... what you are really saying is that we will save Anduin with the power of friendship? or perhaps the power of love? (Wrathion makes a suprise appearance)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    People keep saying this but she never confronted Arthas after she *supposedly* regained control during the Third War: Arthas was in Icecrown & Sylvanas was still in the Eastern Kingdoms. She's clearly talking about the arrow she fired in the Sanctum of Domination. She never fired an arrow at Arthas. The WoWhead article even says its unclear who she's talking about but it's likely the Jailer.
    In WC3: TFT, during the Undead campaign, Sylvanas (now possessing her physical body as a Dark Ranger) ambushes Arthas in Lordaeron and hits him with a paralyzing arrow. Arthas, due to his diminished strength owing to the Lich King weakening, is affected by this and left to Sylvanas and her cohort's tender mercies. Kel'Thuzad shows up and chases Sylvanas off, however; and Arthas makes his way to Northrend to heed the call of the Lich King and eventually become the Lich King himself.

    This would be the incident where she "regains control," due to the first Lich King explicitly losing power to control the Scourge, and would also make sense of her stating she "betrayed her people," as in betrayed the Quel'dorei when Arthas raised her as a Banshee and she got yoked to the will of the Lich King.
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  13. #15373
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    In WC3: TFT, during the Undead campaign, Sylvanas (now possessing her physical body as a Dark Ranger) ambushes Arthas in Lordaeron and hits him with a paralyzing arrow. Arthas, due to his diminished strength owing to the Lich King weakening, is affected by this and left to Sylvanas and her cohort's tender mercies. Kel'Thuzad shows up and chases Sylvanas off, however; and Arthas makes his way to Northrend to heed the call of the Lich King and eventually become the Lich King himself.

    This would be the incident where she "regains control," due to the first Lich King explicitly losing power to control the Scourge, and would also make sense of her stating she "betrayed her people," as in betrayed the Quel'dorei when Arthas raised her as a Banshee and she got yoked to the will of the Lich King.
    This makes a lot of sense and also explains the "story that began in WC3" that the devs mentioned in the 9.2 preview.
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  14. #15374
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    So you are actually sure this is a finished animation we will see in-game when we bring him to 0%, instead of death cinematic we usually get? Because you seem to be overreacting hard and just wanting to shit on the guy on every occasion.
    No no no, everything will be so much better than it is on the PTR, you know, like always! It's obvious that I am joking about the recent animation, right? If we get a completely new one on the live servers we can talk about that.
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  15. #15375
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    No, he does fall like a toddler as well. No idea how anyone can take this guy serious, he's a walking Rugrat at this point. His motivations are the same as theirs.
    Have you looked at Kil'jaedens or Argus' death animation recently? Because they are just as bad. N'zoth and Gul'dan don't even have death animations.

    Wanna know why? Because the player will not, ever, see the death animations. Because they will die in a cinematic. Just like any last patch boss in the last 6 expansions.

  16. #15376
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    No no no, everything will be so much better than it is on the PTR, you know, like always! It's obvious that I am joking about the recent animation, right? If we get a completely new one on the live servers we can talk about that.
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    By the way, no hints for the upcoming expansions on the PTR as of now?
    Mimimi? I can't fathom how someone who is obviousl so fed up with the game and Blizzard in general STILL plays the game. Beyond me.

  17. #15377
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Have you looked at Kil'jaedens or Argus' death animation recently? Because they are just as bad. N'zoth and Gul'dan don't even have death animations.

    Wanna know why? Because the player will not, ever, see the death animations. Because they will die in a cinematic. Just like any last patch boss in the last 6 expansions.
    I don't disagree with anything you've said. I hope he dies in a cinematic, would be one redeeming quality for Shadowlands. I hope his comically bad mace plays a role in that cinematic as well, I wanna see that animation mid combat.
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  18. #15378
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    No, no preaching here. You are just deluded and can't handle your favorite banshee be seen in a negative light. Fucking deal with it. Sylvanas was always a shady and dark character even before the Zovaal machinations. She deserves to answer for her crimes. Unlike the Fallen Prince who didn't even get to be judged fairly.
    You're very confused. You're talking to me about shit I haven't commented on.

  19. #15379
    I just checked out Zereth Mortis on the PTR.

    Spoiler alert, it's bland as hell.

    Dgmw, the art is technically pretty pleasing on its own, but the way it all comes together just makes it feel like yet another claustrophobic Shadowlands zone. There's no soul there, ironically. It doesn't feel alive (and it isn't).

    I just fucking miss old school fantasy vibes. Old dirt roads. Forests. Little rivers and lakes. Snowy mountains. Strange little cabins. Colourful takes on normal creatures like frogs and deer and wolves.

    I'll do it just to see the story end, but I definitely won't put a lot of time into 9.2. It's just not worth it. It's meant to be an experience all about escapism. Taking a step into another world, something which feels vaguely familiar but still mysterious and a bit magical.

    Zereth Mortis, like the rest of the Shadowlands, has nothing which speaks to me. I can't connect to it, because there are no real world elements there.

    Very much unlike zones such as Highmountain, which both looks and feels like a lovely January morning in Northern Europe (and Canada too, I presume).

  20. #15380
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlands-is-fake View Post
    I just checked out Zereth Mortis on the PTR.

    Spoiler alert, it's bland as hell.

    Dgmw, the art is technically pretty pleasing on its own, but the way it all comes together just makes it feel like yet another claustrophobic Shadowlands zone. There's no soul there, ironically. It doesn't feel alive (and it isn't).

    I just fucking miss old school fantasy vibes. Old dirt roads. Forests. Little rivers and lakes. Snowy mountains. Strange little cabins. Colourful takes on normal creatures like frogs and deer and wolves.

    I'll do it just to see the story end, but I definitely won't put a lot of time into 9.2. It's just not worth it. It's meant to be an experience all about escapism. Taking a step into another world, something which feels vaguely familiar but still mysterious and a bit magical.

    Zereth Mortis, like the rest of the Shadowlands, has nothing which speaks to me. I can't connect to it, because there are no real world elements there.

    Very much unlike zones such as Highmountain, which both looks and feels like a lovely January morning in Northern Europe (and Canada too, I presume).
    I hear you, I'm still eager to see if 10.0 will turn this around. I love and miss forests as well, and zones that were full of meaningful stuff to do. For a long time I haven't felt a connection to a zone...

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