1. #16141
    Quote Originally Posted by Zers Editor View Post
    I'm surprised they still (at least by Shadows Rising) haven't made Anduin gay, tbh. Even though he's one of the easiest to make so.
    Nothing indicates he is gay outside wild reaching in his interactions with Wrathion.
    He has been close to a dwarf lady, mentioned to have a thing for Draenei women, and is being hinted at getting a relationship with Talia.
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  2. #16142
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Nothing indicates he is gay outside wild reaching in his interactions with Wrathion.
    He has been close to a dwarf lady, mentioned to have a thing for Draenei women, and is being hinted at getting a relationship with Talia.
    Anduin might not be homosexual, but he's definitely gay.

  3. #16143
    Anduin is obviously going to marry a girl and have kids, otherwise the Wrynn dynasty will cease to exist, and that would be catastrophic for the people of Stormwind.

    Or maybe not, since the public and nobles alike LOVE Turalyon, who was granted immortality by the Naaru Xe'ra...

    So maybe Anduin truly is worthless and can just die in that abyss that is known as the FillerLands (though obviously Golden won't allow it).

  4. #16144
    Anduin will never be gay because Golden would never let her surrogate son be a homo.
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  5. #16145
    Late to the party, I've been offline for some days.

    Holy crap, the new Arbiter model looks hideous.

    On another note: Did something interesting happen in the last days that gives us a hint for the upcoming expansion? Or still nothing going on in that regard? Can someone update me?
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  6. #16146
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Late to the party, I've been offline for some days.

    Holy crap, the new Arbiter model looks hideous.

    On another note: Did something interesting happen in the last days that gives us a hint for the upcoming expansion? Or still nothing going on in that regard? Can someone update me?
    No and most likely not until 2022 since they announced the current PTR build is the last one they will publish in 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Late to the party, I've been offline for some days.

    Holy crap, the new Arbiter model looks hideous.

    On another note: Did something interesting happen in the last days that gives us a hint for the upcoming expansion? Or still nothing going on in that regard? Can someone update me?
    Soon the question won't be "What the next expansion will be?" but "Will there be a next expansion?"

  8. #16148
    Quote Originally Posted by Zers Editor View Post
    I'm surprised they still (at least by Shadows Rising) haven't made Anduin gay, tbh. Even though he's one of the easiest to make so.
    Waht is the obsession with Anduin being gay?

    Although the current pandering to the extreme woke fanatics that's going on, I can see why it is surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Soon the question won't be "What the next expansion will be?" but "Will there be a next expansion?"
    Only figuring that out now?

  9. #16149
    Quote Originally Posted by Beloren View Post
    Waht is the obsession with Anduin being gay?

    Although the current pandering to the extreme woke fanatics that's going on, I can see why it is surprising.

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    Only figuring that out now?
    Some players never grew out of the juvenile middle school phase where Anduin being gay is endlessly funny.

    Also some people want Anduin to be gay because they see it is Blizzard pandering, and therefore being bad.
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  10. #16150
    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    No and most likely not until 2022 since they announced the current PTR build is the last one they will publish in 2021
    Ah, that's super lame. I really hoped for some slightly exciting WoW news until next year...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Soon the question won't be "What the next expansion will be?" but "Will there be a next expansion?"
    That I am pretty sure of. But I still expect a major change in business model for WoW's future with 10.0 and after.
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  11. #16151
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    That I am pretty sure of. But I still expect a major change in business model for WoW's future with 10.0 and after.
    I feel like you're probably right. Hopefully they're not going to normalize 2 major content patch expansions moving forward as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Some players never grew out of the juvenile middle school phase where Anduin being gay is endlessly funny.

    Also some people want Anduin to be gay because they see it is Blizzard pandering, and therefore being bad.
    Some people are also shippers and seem to want to project their stupid fantasies onto others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    OT: No Blizz's business plan isn't going to change drastically.
    Well less patches for more money would still be a change, even if not a large ine

  14. #16154
    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    I feel like you're probably right. Hopefully they're not going to normalize 2 major content patch expansions moving forward as well.
    My guess is: they're going to copy ESOs business model. You need to buy the base game / base expansion, but then can play for free. If you want to play specific kinds of content, you need to either sub or buy it.

    Annual expansion for $39/$49 + one smaller content patch free for all (think like x.x.5 patches) one major content patch per year (free for subscribers, $20 for non-subscribers). And the schedule would look like: Expansion release -> smaller content patch after 2/3 months -> big content patch after 6 months. New expansion after 12 months.

    What I could see as well: 1.5 years per expansion. 2 big, 2 small content patches (x.1 + x.1.5 + x.2 + x.2.5) while a subscription is still required. I really don't expect 2-year expansions with 3 content patches to be the get go for the future.

    The goal is obvious: less money spent for developing content while generating more money overall due to an accelerated expansion cycle.
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  15. #16155
    So now we are pretending current patch schedule is something Blizzard has planned and want for future? You keep saying that pandemic/lockdown argument is overused, yet forget about it every 5 minutes.

    Of course it isn't only reason for droughts, there is also scandal that force changes which always slow down things. But it's not like Blizzard hate money, obviously longer patches lowered their potential income from SL.

  16. #16156
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Some players never grew out of the juvenile middle school phase where Anduin being gay is endlessly funny.

    Also some people want Anduin to be gay because they see it is Blizzard pandering, and therefore being bad.
    And some people want him to be gay cos they find him hot and want to live their precarious gay fantasies through the character

    while others yet again, just love the ide of two cute boy men getting it on.

    question is, would the move make Anduin very popular or just turn people furthe roff wow.. it's hard to say.

    The shipping crowd are always very vocal on social media, they can make something appear to be really wanted, but just one other thing the far greater and silent majority would frown over and be put off by. Maybe Anduin was a character they liked or were okay about for a change and would feel him going gay is just another needless nod trying to force them to pick up something they don't want to.

  17. #16157
    Is the team that is working on the Classic(s) completely different than the one working on Retail? Is it possible that they were sending people to help on Classic? That, plus working hard on the next expansion*, plus the ongoing pandemic, plus the entire harassment thing, it's not a surprise that they're cutting Shadowlands short.

    * 10.0 is a milestone, so I believe that it's getting extra attention from Blizzard. We might yet get the best expansion of WoW.

  18. #16158
    Quote Originally Posted by UndedoKoleda View Post
    Is the team that is working on the Classic(s) completely different than the one working on Retail? Is it possible that they were sending people to help on Classic? That, plus working hard on the next expansion*, plus the ongoing pandemic, plus the entire harassment thing, it's not a surprise that they're cutting Shadowlands short.

    * 10.0 is a milestone, so I believe that it's getting extra attention from Blizzard. We might yet get the best expansion of WoW.
    I haven't been following TBCC so I don't know if it changed. But no, Classic was its own team and only consisted of a handful of devs to begin with.

  19. #16159
    Classic might have had more devs recently with Season of Mastery, but even then likely what amounts to a skeleton crew.
    Unlike live the team doesn't really need designers or writers, just a few people ensuring the code still holds together.
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  20. #16160
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Nothing indicates he is gay outside wild reaching in his interactions with Wrathion.
    He has been close to a dwarf lady, mentioned to have a thing for Draenei women, and is being hinted at getting a relationship with Talia.
    Honestly the game is bereft of all romance. Some of the Warcraft characters have hetero spouces but they never spend any time with them. Lor'themar is dating Thalyssra but that's it. It's nice that they have one single solitary trans & a single monogamous gay couple but that's it so of course we get a constant "the homosexuals are taking over wow" blathering from the likes of asmogold & his parrots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    My guess is: they're going to copy ESOs business model. You need to buy the base game / base expansion, but then can play for free. If you want to play specific kinds of content, you need to either sub or buy it.

    Annual expansion for $39/$49 + one smaller content patch free for all (think like x.x.5 patches) one major content patch per year (free for subscribers, $20 for non-subscribers). And the schedule would look like: Expansion release -> smaller content patch after 2/3 months -> big content patch after 6 months. New expansion after 12 months.

    What I could see as well: 1.5 years per expansion. 2 big, 2 small content patches (x.1 + x.1.5 + x.2 + x.2.5) while a subscription is still required. I really don't expect 2-year expansions with 3 content patches to be the get go for the future.

    The goal is obvious: less money spent for developing content while generating more money overall due to an accelerated expansion cycle.
    That did look like that was the idea in Warlords of Draenor, but since Legion the subscription model still works. They wouldn't copy ESO's model, they'd copy FFXIV business model because its much more successful & its the same one WoW is currently using. So expect no change there. And if they ever hope to dig themselves out of this rutt, they need to show off a big new shiny expansion, not a half-sized annual one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    So now we are pretending current patch schedule is something Blizzard has planned and want for future? You keep saying that pandemic/lockdown argument is overused, yet forget about it every 5 minutes.

    Of course it isn't only reason for droughts, there is also scandal that force changes which always slow down things. But it's not like Blizzard hate money, obviously longer patches lowered their potential income from SL.
    Despite people keep claiming the contrary, Metzen said years ago: They plan a filler content patch every expansion. And they abandon it if they're running behind. They abandoned it during shadowlands. Examples of content patches they could have skipped & nothing major would change about the story: Nazjatar, Throne of Thunder, Trial of the Champion, & Argus (they could have stuck the Seat of the Pantheon fight after Kil'jaden in ToS if they had to)

    My guess they could have taken all the elune story stuff & made Battle for Ardenweald a fully-fledged raid: That was the planned filler tier of Shadowlands. Doesn't it seem strange to jam all that Tyrande stuff into where we're storming the Jailer's enormous bastion?
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