Not relatable, but understandable generally helps. Even if you would never agree with them, at least being able to understand how they arrived at their conclusions is usually a good thing.
Deathwing was to much just "grah, me destroy" without any rhyme or reason. Wouldn't even make sense as N'zoth's plan, since N'zoth wouldn't have had much interest in dying at that time.
All a villain needs is to be a fucking person. Jailer is a fucking non-entity, he might as well be an automaton because he displayed practically zero traits that thinking beings should display. He has no personality, he had no conversations with anyone (monologuing to someone is not a conversation), he hadn't expressed his opinion about anything or anyone.
Anyway, those raid titles are funny: "Guardian of the Pattern". Might as well be "Guardian of the status quo" with how pathetic that sounds. I still hate that Shadowlands will continue to exist and won't be destroyed.
"When the titans created the dragon aspects they told them one day when the time has come they have to sacrifice their own immortality and one of their kind to set in motion the events to stop the ancient evil banished in the maw to strengthen the heroes of azeroth for the danger that threatens to consume death and life alike"
- Blizzard probably
He's insane driven by pain and hatred and controlled by n'zoth, so destroying without rhyme or reason was kind of the point. N'zoth was never in danger. Deathwing even impaled himself after he did his job because he wasn't useful for squidward anymore.
Its not like hes the most interesting villain by any means but he felt like a real character you could understand why he acts the way he does.
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You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.
NEW Mythic: The Jailer Defeat The Jailer in the Sepulcher of the First Ones on Mythic difficulty.
Reward: Title Reward: Guardian of the Pattern
NEW Hall of Fame: The Jailer (Alliance) Among the first one hundred Alliance guilds worldwide to defeat The Jailer on Mythic difficulty.
Reward: Title Reward: Famed Bane of Zovaal the Jailer
NEW Hall of Fame: The Jailer (Horde) Among the first one hundred Horde guilds worldwide to defeat The Jailer on Mythic difficulty.
Reward: Title Reward: Famed Bane of Zovaal the Jailer
Lets put aside how lackluster these title are, the "Famed Bane of Zovaal the Jailer" indicates that the Jailer is going to survive the encounter, doesn't it? They used the same wording for Sylvanas in 9.1, if Zovaal was to die, surely they would have used "Famed Slayer of Zovaal the Jailer".
Deathwing was still a schemer in Cataclysm.
He is the one who actually recruited Ragnaros and Al'Akir into N'Zoth's side (so he remained somewhat of a "diplomat", because he gained the allegiance of these two mighty Elemental Lords) and also schemed to put his puppet Arygos in command of the Blue Dragonflight after Malygos died, gaining the allegiance of that flight.
He also decided to spare Stormwind instead of just destroying the city because he knew that a city full of cultists would be more beneficial than a wasteland. It is explicitly noted how Deathwing could have destroyed the entire city, yet didn't, which puzzled the civilians. It was revealed that this was so his puppet, Archbishop Benedictus, who was secretly a cultist, could recruit more people into the Twilight's Hammer (people would lose hope after seeing how powerful Deathwing is).
So really people here are not understanding what actually happened in Cataclysm, to claim that Deathwing was just a mindless beast. He schemed and plotted a lot, it's just that in the end he was a mere pawn of N'Zoth.
"Madness of Deathwing", the final encounter, is when Deathwing actually loses the last of his sanity, and it's understandable why this would happen. His body was blasted apart and he was almost slain. The only thing keeping him together was N'Zoth's power, N'Zoth being desperate to keep his minion alive or the Cataclysm ends. So at that point Deathwing was pretty much just a mindless puppet animated by N'Zoth's power.
The only reason why Deathwing looked more intelligent and manipulative back in WC2 is because N'Zoth was not revealed yet at that point in time (maybe Blizzard didn't even flesh-out the concept of "Old Gods" at the time). So Deathwing looked smarter because he didn't have a master.
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The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!
Wow.
I don't think they could've come up with a worse title even if they tried.
And no, it's just another unoriginal play on the 'Bane of the Fallen King' title.
Formerly known as Arafal
More importantly is the Mythic Raid title is "Guardian of the Pattern" which should worry everyone.
I no longer reply to quotations beyond if you're asking a genuine question or have a non-confrontational stance.
Nihil.
The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!