Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nyel]

Not bad, not bad at all. Zandalar and Kul'Tiras seem too small to carry their own expansion, though, and while I can see the Zandalari Empire staying neutral after our visit, Kul'Tiras would definitively join the Alliance again. I mean, it would feel bad if in one expansion one faction gets a new race while the other does not. But for sure Blizzard could have make it work with a different treatment.

The BfA way of handeling N'zoth still gets me. Why they were so eager to rush through so much good and potential plotlines? Hopefully 10.0 gives us some answers.

Too small? I mean both continents are as big as Blizzard wants them to be. They could have easily added more zones to them. But talking and fantasizing about this is nostalgy, it's sad and done and neither did Kul'Tiras nor Zandalar justice.

[Darkarath]

Too small? I mean both continents are as big as Blizzard wants them to be. They could have easily added more zones to them. But talking and fantasizing about this is nostalgy, it's sad and done and neither did Kul'Tiras nor Zandalar justice.

I know that Blizzard can make up any excuse to enlarge any group of isles to make a new continent out of it, but the Zandalar that we got is bigger than what I thought that Zandalar would be.

BUT, do not lose hope, they might yet make another cataclysm and we could revisit Zandalar and Kul'Tiras again in 12 years!!

[Sondrelk]

Not bad, not bad at all. Zandalar and Kul'Tiras seem too small to carry their own expansion, though, and while I can see the Zandalari Empire staying neutral after our visit, Kul'Tiras would definitively join the Alliance again. I mean, it would feel bad if in one expansion one faction gets a new race while the other does not. But for sure Blizzard could have make it work with a different treatment.

The BfA way of handeling N'zoth still gets me. Why they were so eager to rush through so much good and potential plotlines? Hopefully 10.0 gives us some answers.

They are individually too small, but both have large amounts of extra stuff that could be used to fill it out.
A Faction War expansion could have even more focus on revamped zones like Darkshore and Arathi, as well as having every single faction hub as a potential raid.

An Old God expansion specifically though could have even more stuff added.
Returning to Ahn'Qiraj or Ulduar, more focus on the Qiraji offshoots like Mantid or Nerubians. Even more underwater stuff like the Abyssal Maw and Nazjatar proper.

And if we are on the topic of stuff that BfA did halfheartedly in an effort to do everything then I would also argue that the Naval element was all but abandoned by the end. We could have had naval battles, unique zone traversal mechanics, more focus on the Naga threat. I would have taken even just the first fight of the last raid being on a boat rather than the last patch of BfA abandoning the ocean stuff completely. We go to Ny'alotha and the idea that we went to Kul Tiras and Zandalar to find ships is completely and utterly meaningless, and this despite N'zoth being heavily themed around the ocean.

[Darkarath]

They are individually too small, but both have large amounts of extra stuff that could be used to fill it out.
A Faction War expansion could have even more focus on revamped zones like Darkshore and Arathi, as well as having every single faction hub as a potential raid.

An Old God expansion specifically though could have even more stuff added.
Returning to Ahn'Qiraj or Ulduar, more focus on the Qiraji offshoots like Mantid or Nerubians. Even more underwater stuff like the Abyssal Maw and Nazjatar proper.

And if we are on the topic of stuff that BfA did halfheartedly in an effort to do everything then I would also argue that the Naval element was all but abandoned by the end. We could have had naval battles, unique zone traversal mechanics, more focus on the Naga threat. I would have taken even just the first fight of the last raid being on a boat rather than the last patch of BfA abandoning the ocean stuff completely. We go to Ny'alotha and the idea that we went to Kul Tiras and Zandalar to find ships is completely and utterly meaningless, and this despite N'zoth being heavily themed around the ocean.

I agree. Man, so much potential wasted in BfA. Faction war, Azshara and N'Zoth. Three expansions on their own mixed in one. The eternally wanted Nazjatar was such a dissapointment, and I enjoyed the zone, but it should have been so much more, the Naga never felt like a real threat, even if 8.2 cinematic was pretty cool. Azshara development was basically that cinematic, and she looked cool as hell, but she did nothing of importance

And the also long awaited Old God invasion in 8.3? Pffff... So many cool assets done related to Old Gods gives me hope for a future expansion, but 8.3 was such a let down...

[huth]

You made me click the same link a second time. Thats some 5Head reply there.

It's true, though. Check the upper left.

[Fahrad Wagner]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

[Lady Atia]

Legion

/10char

And don't forget TBC - half of it was about elves (Illidan, Kael, heck even Vashj was a former elf).

[Makorus]

And don't forget TBC - half of it was about elves (Illidan, Kael, heck even Vashj was a former elf).

Just because major characters are elves, does not mean that the expansion is about elves.

When people say they want an expansion about elves, they are not talking about featuring character that are elves, but an expansion that features their culture, architecture or moves their story forward in some way.

The only expansion that really was that was Legion, and maybe Cataclysm. Sure, TBC had Blood Elves, but outside of the starting experience, they weren't really relevant.

[Lady Atia]

Just because major characters are elves, does not mean that the expansion is about elves.

When people say they want an expansion about elves, they are not talking about featuring character that are elves, but an expansion that features their culture, architecture or moves their story forward in some way.

The only expansion that really was that was Legion, and maybe Cataclysm. Sure, TBC had Blood Elves, but outside of the starting experience, they weren't really relevant.

So I guess you haven't played SWP? Blood Elves were super relevant during TBC lmao.

[Shadochi]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

Since nobody else wants to, I'll start with my 4 additions and the base

[Varodoc]

Someone add Alleria and Turalyon, after all half the online speculations are about one or both of them going evil.

Not that it's going to happen of course

[Hugnomo]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

Hehe, we meet again fellow commuters of the hype train. Choo choo !

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Since nobody else wants to, I'll start with my 4 additions and the base

*chef's kiss*
Maybe we could add a green drake in there from the datamining.

[Shadochi]

Someone add Alleria and Turalyon, after all half the online speculations are about one or both of them going evil.

Not that it's going to happen of course

Hehe, we meet again fellow commuters of the hype train. Choo choo !

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*chef's kiss*
Maybe we could add a green drake in there from the datamining.

Will add that to my list

[Futhark]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

Usually there's a teaser for an announcement for the announcement, so it seems early.

[Harbour]

I bet one of the plotlines would be the "Turalyon and Alleria struggle against the opposite nature of their powers and beliefs, where Arathor will play the key role into bringing them together in the end of expansion".

[Beloren]

Just because major characters are elves, does not mean that the expansion is about elves.

When people say they want an expansion about elves, they are not talking about featuring character that are elves, but an expansion that features their culture, architecture or moves their story forward in some way.

The only expansion that really was that was Legion, and maybe Cataclysm. Sure, TBC had Blood Elves, but outside of the starting experience, they weren't really relevant.

You know.


For blood elves, it was TBC, WotLK, Cata, MoP, WoD, Legion (Suramar 7.1 invasion, the void elf and Alleria bits), BFA (8.2)

For draenei, it was TBC, WoD and Legion

For orcs it was TBC, WotLK, Cata, MoP and WoD

For humans it was TBC, WotLK, Cata, MoP, WoD and BFA

For Night elves it was Legion mainly, but bits in BFA and SL

For Trolls: they've had bits in Classic patches, TBC, WotLK, Cata (updated starting), MoP, , BFA

For Tauren: WotLK, MoP and Legion

For Dwarves: WotLK and Cata

For Gnomes: Cata (new start) and BFA

For Goblins: Cata

For Forsaken: WotLK, Legion (warden towers conflict) BFA, SL

For Worgen: Cata, Legion

All the core races had Cata starting, cata only appears above if the main storyline involved your race

tried to only pick ones where i felt the story was progressed for the genetic race (not necessarily always the particular faction of it you play) - alll allied races are progressions of their sire race's even including on the opposite faction.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Since nobody else wants to, I'll start with my 4 additions and the base

I earnestly missed this from my old lurking days—I hadn't made this account yet, and the only account I had was very scarcely used, but I lurked often in the Legion and Battle for Azeroth Hype Train threads. I am, to say the least, very happy to see that people are once more excited for these imminent expansions. It's refreshing, honestly, to see a return to form after Blizzard's generally disastrous state—it seems like WoW has regained good will with the hype and Microsoft purchase (though I doubt that will actually provide much fruit), at least.

Anyways, let's get some Yrel in there, perhaps? That, and a reference to a potential world revamp (I still have some hopium), though that's looking increasingly unlikely now.

[Raetary]

It's so good to see everyone gathering in this thread in anticipation of what may or may not come this week Is it too soon to summon the hype train?

It's never too early to summon the hype train, working on my own masterpiece as of right now.

[Nyel]

Usually there's a teaser for an announcement for the announcement, so it seems early.

They will definitely pre-announce an expansion announcement.

[Beloren]

So I guess you haven't played SWP? Blood Elves were super relevant during TBC lmao.

Indeed we were, and it had our race's biggest and largest character developmment arc.. we've had involvement ever since, in WotLk with the silver Covenant and Sunreavers (same race remember), in Cata we also had developments helping out the horde. in MoP, we were the ones advancing both the alliance and horde against the Thunder King. In WoD, we helped the Draenei in Shattrath, in Legion we helped the nightborne in 7.1 and also sent representatives to Argus, had Alleria's quest chain and the void elves' introduction though they went alliance. In BFA we were in 8.2 with Azshara (dunno why void elves didn't have a larger role to play against N'zoth). But we haven't had anything for Shadowlands.

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They will definitely pre-announce an expansion announcement.

@Futhark is right, it seems too early for an expansion announcement.