Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

So it’s been a week, and this is still the top leak out there. Also nothing else quite like this leak floating around. I’m also noticing that the usual YouTube personalities aren’t really jumping on this the way they jumped on the random MMOC “leak” threads. Very interesting.

[micwini]

So it’s been a week, and this is still the top leak out there. Also nothing else quite like this leak floating around. I’m also noticing that the usual YouTube personalities aren’t really jumping on this the way they jumped on the random MMOC “leak” threads. Very interesting.

They haven't jumped on this one because its obviously fake. Just look at the weird sloppy stuff above the letter T

[Varodoc]

They haven't jumped on this one because its obviously fake. Just look at the weird sloppy stuff above the letter T

Huh, No, if Youtubers don't want to touch a leak it's 100% because the leak is real and they don't want to spoil everything (big content creators would have inside sources and would already be told about upcoming content so that they can hype it up).

Look at Warhammer III and how no youtuber made videos about the Russian leak of the Daemon Prince because they all knew it was real.

And by the way, I have seen a few Youtuber videos talk about this, so I don't agree with what the Tinker guy said. But if Youtubers avoid a popular leak at all costs, they know that the leak is correct.

I think this leak is fake but for other and better reasons. I think it is fake because it is an expansion about dragons without any dragon motif or imagery in the logo at all. Clearly there is something wrong here.

[Soulwind]

We live in this universe. We had fake leak called Shadowlands.

We knew we were going to visit the Shadowlands eventually, so dozens of fake leaks were unimaginative enough to call the expansion just that. It just so happens that Blizzard didn't come up with anything better either.

[draugril]

We knew we were going to visit the Shadowlands eventually, so dozens of fake leaks were unimaginative enough to call the expansion just that. It just so happens that Blizzard didn't come up with anything better either.

This is why I smile to myself when I see people saying that's why we'd never get an expansion called "Dragon Isles" or whatever. It's not creative enough, they say. Yet... Shadowlands is a thing. Battle for Azeroth was a choice. Legion may as well be a placeholder. And they were all recent choices.

[micwini]

Dangerous take: The new expac name will not contain the word "Dragon" or any variation of it.

[draugril]

Dangerous take: The new expac name will not contain the word "Dragon" or any variation of it.

World of WarCraft: Aspect.

[BaumanKing]

Huh, No, if Youtubers don't want to touch a leak it's 100% because the leak is real and they don't want to spoil everything (big content creators would have inside sources and would already be told about upcoming content so that they can hype it up).

Look at Warhammer III and how no youtuber made videos about the Russian leak of the Daemon Prince because they all knew it was real.

And by the way, I have seen a few Youtuber videos talk about this, so I don't agree with what the Tinker guy said. But if Youtubers avoid a popular leak at all costs, they know that the leak is correct.

I think this leak is fake but for other and better reasons. I think it is fake because it is an expansion about dragons without any dragon motif or imagery in the logo at all. Clearly there is something wrong here.

You want this leak to be true cause it implies that your Turalyon and Alleria will play some role in it. They won't, cause nobody cares about them.

[Varodoc]

You want this leak to be true cause it implies that your Turalyon and Alleria will play some role in it. They won't, cause nobody cares about them.

Rent-free.

Also by the way I don't care about Turalyon, I laughed when he died in 8.3. I only "care" about him in the sense that you can't write Turalyon without involving Alleria and the Ren'dorei too.

Turalyon is merely a means to an end...

Also nobody cares about them? It must be why the Number 1 question at all BlizzCons was "where are Alleria and Turalyon?" and it must be why Blizzard updated the loading screen tips thrice to foreshadow their return In reality Alleria and Turalyon are some of the most popular and iconic characters Blizzard ever created (Alleria even more so).

As I said, rent-free

[Dhomeli]

Saw the idea in another thread, but curious what people here think -

1. Level Cap Increase to 70 and change Chromie Time to 1-60?
2. Reset to 50, level to 60 again, and keep Chromie Time 1-50?

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I don't particularly disagree with your take. My point was not to suggest Zovaal is a great character or that his setup is particularly satisfying, it was to point out that the often quoted "they retconned him into being the cause of everything in the game/WC3" is just silly.


Wow is fleshed out precisely because it does things like this though. Chronicle was intended to be a comprehensive lurch forward in filling in the gaps, resolving shaky points, and expanding the universe... but inevitably you're going to come up against those fillings as walls blocking potentially interesting storylines and additions. The fluidity is necessary because otherwise you're forced into such vagueness that describing the state of affairs becomes pointless, you have to dance around the details of every last little thing or chance locking that item out of potential later on.

You don't have to retroactively put a villain in something to make them interesting, but if you're adding a villain (or an entire group of characters who have existed for a very long time), you do need to retroactively explain some of what they have been doing during the existing events they would have been around for.

I don't think that necessitates how they work him into the story, though. I think there are plenty of ways of making an interesting new villain without actually tying him in to preexisting plots at all—he could simply appear, he could be something made from a loose thread (i.e. the idea of a fifth Old God eaten by the others has some background), he could be made in front of us from a character as we see them become a villain (like Garrosh was, who I honestly think is one of the best villains).

Besides, I suppose we do need more villains to be made, since there are so many who have already been around.

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Rent-free.

Also by the way I don't care about Turalyon, I laughed when he died in 8.3. I only "care" about him in the sense that you can't write Turalyon without involving Alleria and the Ren'dorei too.

Turalyon is merely a means to an end...

Also nobody cares about them? It must be why the Number 1 question at all BlizzCons was "where are Alleria and Turalyon?" and it must be why Blizzard updated the loading screen tips thrice to foreshadow their return In reality Alleria and Turalyon are some of the most popular and iconic characters Blizzard ever created (Alleria even more so).

As I said, rent-free

That's because there was a mystery around them being absent before. People seem excited about Turalyon. You are the only person I have ever seen excited about the Void Elves. Plenty of people play them, but I've rarely seen someone with your unhealthy fixation on this plot.

And just say "Void Elves". You are not an Elf in World of Warcraft. You are a human being on Earth. Write "Void Elf".

[LorDC]

Saw the idea in another thread, but curious what people here think -

1. Level Cap Increase to 70 and change Chromie Time to 1-60?
2. Reset to 50, level to 60 again, and keep Chromie Time 1-50?

Second. They should just drop all pretenses and do level/ilvl/stat squish every expansion. The game is seasonal anyways.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

It is just copium speaking to say that we are supposed to think the Jailer has thrown million tons of spaghetti at the wall with just one strandsaticking.

Blizzard writers aren't that nuanced.

But they just suggested that through the item text that started this conversation—they suggested that he was mostly able to get out owing to luck.

[Darkarath]

Second. They should just drop all pretenses and do level/ilvl/stat squish every expansion. The game is seasonal anyways.

I agree. Unless they change leveling in some way it would be absurd IMO to increase the level cap again, just to reset it in a few expansions.

BTW it seems that this is going to be a loooooong and boring week. Hopefully someone creates a new interesting leak.

[bruxx]

Dangerous take: The new expac name will not contain the word "Dragon" or any variation of it.

WoW: Empire of Flying Lizards

O_o

[Lahis]

Saw the idea in another thread, but curious what people here think -

1. Level Cap Increase to 70 and change Chromie Time to 1-60?
2. Reset to 50, level to 60 again, and keep Chromie Time 1-50?

Resetting level cap to 50 after each expansion would keep current Chromie time system working and avoid the shitshow that resulted in the level squish at the first place.

[Edlarel]

Dangerous take: The new expac name will not contain the word "Dragon" or any variation of it.

WoW: Empire of Flying Lizards O_o

WoW: Straight Out of Duskwood.

[Alanar]

I have this weird feeling that the overall hype will die out before they announce 10.0, the "coming weeks" could be anything between 2 to 12 weeks...

I think they want to announce the expansion ASAP, but the expansion is so early in development that they don't have much to show.

Ye, same. I don't think the hype will stay.. at all.

[maxje98]

I agree. Unless they change leveling in some way it would be absurd IMO to increase the level cap again, just to reset it in a few expansions.

BTW it seems that this is going to be a loooooong and boring week. Hopefully someone creates a new interesting leak.

This. I really hope they change leveling in some way. After a few alts leveling, it starts to feel... boring. Really hoping for, even though I dont really see it happening, that with a world revamp, they change the quests. A lot of the older ones feel boring.

[Raetary]

Dangerous take: The new expac name will not contain the word "Dragon" or any variation of it.

Eh, there is enough dragon related vocabulary to make titles with, so this isn't much of a take tbh.

Wing(s), Flight, Flame, Fire, Scale(s), Aspect(s), Brood, Breath, etc.