Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Fahrad Wagner]

That fan-made map is cute, but blue dragons were ROBBED.

[Lahis]

Blademasters are not about 2H only.
And, you can't add Mirror Image and Windwalk to the Warrior.

Then add Blademaster to monks. They have Windealk, Mirror images and wear light armor.

[Valysar]

I really love that map

[username993720]

Then add Blademaster to monks. They have Windealk, Mirror images and wear light armor.

Makes more sense, to be honest.
Though, in WC3 the Brewmaster and Blademaster were 2 different Hero units.

[Golden Yak]

RIP Blue Dragonflight.

Anyway, it's not real, Azapls sig can be seen in the bottom right corner.

Cool map, but probably for the best it's fake. Some of those zone names are a mouthful.

Patch would probably be the Isle of Ksyzkameryvesk or something.

Just found this old screenshot and holy shit!

That's a good one. Kudos.

[Teriz]

I asked for a source.

I listed them for you.

I mean it wouldn't be asiatic.

Samurai are Japanese, so yeah, they are Asiatic. There is no such concept in Warcraft.

"Engineers are practitioners of engineering. They are of many Azeroth's races and are affiliated with various factions.

In WoW, they act as vendors or trainers".

So you're going to completely ignore all evidence and continue to push a false narrative. Okie dokie.

It doesn't. Arms Warriors are juggernauts, not agile, mystic samurai.



Because it doesn't fit.



Blademasters are not about 2H only.
And, you can't add Mirror Image and Windwalk to the Warrior.


Yes, a trinket. Not a Warrior ability. And look who's not listed:

Classes: Hunter, Rogue, Shaman, Monk, Druid, Demon Hunter.

Then they're Rogues, since Rogues can use blades, Mirror Image, and Windwalk. Either way, there isn't enough meat on the bones to make Blademasters into a class.

That's called fantasy, not real life.

What i'm talking about is a fully-fledged samurai class. And it is no longer restricted to Orcs anymore, if you didn't know that.

Again, there is no Samurai class in Warcraft. Final Fantasy XIV is on another forum.

[Raetary]

The problem with Blademasters is that their concept was shredded and the remains sprinkled across 4 different classes.

If they are gonna be a thing, it'll have to be as a class skin for monks/warriors.
Otherwise they'd just demonstrably clash with existing classes.

[Lahis]

Cool map, but probably for the best it's fake. Some of those zone names are a mouthful.

Patch would probably be the Isle of Ksyzkameryvesk or something.

World of Warcraft: The Slavlands.

[Soulwind]

World of Warcraft: The Slavlands.

Someone should make a WoW-like map of Iceland.

[Teriz]

The problem with Blademasters is that their concept was shredded and the remains sprinkled across 4 different classes.

If they are gonna be a thing, it'll have to be as a class skin for monks/warriors.
Otherwise they'd just demonstrably clash with existing classes.

Yeah, a Blademaster would play exactly like a Rogue. It's truly one of the worst class suggestions around.

[huth]

World of Warcraft: The Slavlands.

Gopnikgeddon

[Syegfryed]

It doesn't. Arms Warriors are juggernauts, not agile, mystic samurais.

the Gig of arms warriors is being mobile, aka, agile and delivering massive damage. blademasters are included in the warrior class just like tauren chieftain and mountain king. "misticism" is a matter of they wanting to put the abilities there or not, as warriors already use "magic" abilities.

Because it doesn't fit.

it does, literally does.

And, you can't add Mirror Image and Windwalk to the Warrior.

They can, if they want to, is a no-brainer, they can easily redesign then a bit to fit the mmo. It could be talent, it could be a ew ability, or a new progression like legion artifact.

They are called Blademasters.

Aka, arms warrior

What i'm talking about is a fully-fledged samurai class. And it is no longer restricted to Orcs anymore, if you didn't know that.

"fully fledged samurai class" is a dumb idea, is like making a "full fledged sorcerer" class, or a "fully fledge mountain king" or a 'fully fledged magi", wow classes are broad to englobe different archetype, like a mountain king for dwarves, a samurai to orcs, a footman to humans, a tauren chieftain for taurens, etc, it would be pointless and a waste to focus on those specifics when talents are there for that(if it was a standalone class it would be restricted only to orcs)

We already know by lore blademasters are arms warriors, there is plenty of blademasters npcs tagged as arms warriors, plenty of blademasters using warrior arms abilities, a Blademaster is a Warrior trainer in orgrimmar, plus, its not something restricted to orcs, as we saw other races being able to be, like saberons and ankoan

[Shadochi]

As a Slav, I support WoW:Slavlands. Gnomergan wouldn't even need a revamp to be a viable capital city

[Syegfryed]

Yeah, a Blademaster would play exactly like a Rogue. It's truly one of the worst class suggestions around.

ITs pretty easi to add blademaster flavour into warriors.

Get back mirror image from mages(if they took demon form from warlocks is only fair) and redesign wind walk, it doesn't need to be a full-time invisibility, neither something broken like warcraft 3.

Wow team should focus more to add those kind of fantasy, or more like a prestige class scenario/class skin.

[Edward Wu]

There's a lot of room to add pseudo-classes into the game through some minor (compared to developing an entire class) customization of existing classes. I dunno, call it a Mastery system or something, doesn't matter.

Rogue Mastery: Blademaster

Gives Rogues the ability to wield a 2-handed sword, changes a few abilities visually and mechanically and reward an armor and weapon set surrounding that Mastery. Tie a large grind to it and give people incentives to do it.

Very easy way without adding in more classes or doing all new specializations.

[NikolaiShade]

There's a lot of room to add pseudo-classes into the game through some minor (compared to developing an entire class) customization of existing classes. I dunno, call it a Mastery system or something, doesn't matter.

Rogue Mastery: Blademaster

Gives Rogues the ability to wield a 2-handed sword, changes a few abilities visually and mechanically and reward an armor and weapon set surrounding that Mastery. Tie a large grind to it and give people incentives to do it.

Very easy way without adding in more classes or doing all new specializations.

A similar system (or less sophisticated class skins for that matter) would open up a whole lot customization and gameplay options without adding a new class, you then would have to balance against the other ones

[cocomen2]

There's a lot of room to add pseudo-classes into the game through some minor (compared to developing an entire class) customization of existing classes. I dunno, call it a Mastery system or something, doesn't matter.

Rogue Mastery: Blademaster

Gives Rogues the ability to wield a 2-handed sword, changes a few abilities visually and mechanically and reward an armor and weapon set surrounding that Mastery. Tie a large grind to it and give people incentives to do it.

Very easy way without adding in more classes or doing all new specializations.

By doing very similar thing to hunter we can get $Tinkers.

Just allow Hunters to transmog their armor into mech and by doing so all arrow animation's would be swaped to rocket's.

As bonus, once hunter is dying, his mech armor gets torn to pieces revealing semi beaten body with engineering goggles and Tony Stark noises.

[Teriz]

ITs pretty easi to add blademaster flavour into warriors.

Get back mirror image from mages(if they took demon form from warlocks is only fair) and redesign wind walk, it doesn't need to be a full-time invisibility, neither something broken like warcraft 3.

Wow team should focus more to add those kind of fantasy, or more like a prestige class scenario/class skin.

That's another possibility, especially since Arms is kind of dull, and already contains Bladestorm and 2h specialization. I would completely revamp the spec, add mirror image and windwalk as abilities, and create talents that specifically improve those abilities. As I said in my post, even add some abilities and talents from HotS into the mix.

Really no reason to add a Blademaster class when it makes FAR more sense to make it a warrior spec. And frankly, there simply isn't enough material to make it into a distinct and interesting class.

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By doing very similar thing to hunter we can get $Tinkers.

Just allow Hunters to transmog their armor into mech and by doing so all arrow animation's would be swaped to rocket's.

As bonus, once hunter is dying, his mech armor gets torn to pieces revealing semi beaten body with engineering goggles and Tony Stark noises.

Nah. This;



Is far too different from the Hunter thematic to be incorporated as a Hunter transmog or spec.

[NikolaiShade]

Nah. This;



Is far too different from the Hunter thematic to be incorporated as a Hunter transmog or spec.

Making Tinkers a class skin of Hunters would be making a disservice to both. Tinkers, if they will ever implement them, should be their own class.

[THC BANDIT]

You are so fucking delusional its crazy.. If Blizzard wants to make a Blademaster they will fucking make a blademaster and make it MAKE SENSE...

If they want a Tinker they will make it make sense.. if they want a dark ranger they will make it make sense.. its their product and they can put whatever the fuck they want into the game.. you dont have the right in any way to say things like "Theres not enough meat on that bone to make it a class" its so strange that you talk like you have inside knowledge of what they will and will not do.

TLDR: They put into the game what they want to put into the game you narcissistic weirdo.