Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

That logo is very good too by the way, good job!

This one went by me somehow. Wow. I completely agree. Great job, @Teriz! I always kind of sucked at making custom borders for my logos so I just tried to obscure them a bit so people wouldn't call me out on using the default ones (but they did anyway, of course).

Thanks, but I didn't do the logo, so I can't take credit for it. It was done by the very talented Handclaw on Artstation. He's the one behind the Undermine april fool's gag from last year.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/kDxyq6

[Syegfryed]

Wouldn't mind an expansion set in WoW's distant far past. Imagine Chromie in a last-ditch effort after Zovaal or someone irrevocably ruins Azeroth transports the Horde & Alliance back in time.

We all knew how they ruined draenor and orcs in WoD, i would not give the current team a chance.

In right hands, would be dope, but in this scenario, meh

[Shadochi]

Seeing how they said in the coming weeks changes to sets to tokens, it'll be a month till 9.2 launches meaning 10.0 info probably in march

[Fahrad Wagner]

Seeing how they said in the coming weeks changes to sets to tokens, it'll be a month till 9.2 launches meaning 10.0 info probably in march

Matches that Final Titan leak, just saying'

[Dracullus]

Matches that Final Titan leak, just saying'

WoW: New Final Titan, that would be troll name.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

It resonates well with me as well and would love for them to explore this. What I'm dreading though is that we end up in a scenario à la SC2 : legacy of the void, where representatives of all cosmic forces must unite and confront the seventh and that the scale brings us too quickly into a universal conflict.

Hopefully, the seventh force is merely the underlying cooperation between forces, and our goal is to restore it as opposed to defeat it—or, rather, growth through conflict. It's like Hegelian dialectics, I hope.

[Teriz]

That would actually kill the game forever.

Among a loud, vocal minority (the same who called MoP "Kung Fu Panda"), sure. An expansion based on an old Warcraft continent with a new base class (Mechanic) would be MoP 2.0 for the fans.

[Khaza-R]

That would actually kill the game forever.

Pretty logo design though.

Says you. Person who thinks Shadowlands is a good expansion

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Hopefully, the seventh force is merely the underlying cooperation between forces, and our goal is to restore it as opposed to defeat it—or, rather, growth through conflict. It's like Hegelian dialectics, I hope.

Restore Balance? What do you think this is, a well-written story with an end point in mind? It's clearly something more evil than the other evils for us to fight in a few expansions.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Restore Balance? What do you think this is, a well-written story with an end point in mind? It's clearly something more evil than the other evils for us to fight in a few expansions.

Meh, I suppose I shouldn't expect much more.

[Coniferous]

It’s mainly because the fact the old world is huge and pretty fun

The old world is also very wide open and easy to navigate. The people designing wow zones since WoD have lost their minds, designing the most annoying cluttered shit ever.

[Osmeric]

That would actually kill the game forever.

Pretty logo design though.

I'm not sure it would outright kill it, but the game's foundations would certainly be... undermined.

[Skildar]

Meh, I suppose I shouldn't expect much more.

I think we should. They definitely went back to their source with Shadowlands on how to expand and redefine the universe rules, forces and our understanding of it all.

[Teriz]

I'd still play it and enjoy it, my main is a Gob so it wouldn't bug me any but focusing entirely on Gobs/Gnomes for two years would be pretty shit to most people.

Eh, just like Pandaria wasn't all about Pandaren, an Undermine expansion wouldn't be all about Goblins. While Goblins definitely rule the place, Undermine has been portrayed as a pretty diverse, corrupt, cosmopolitan place. In fact, Hearthstone's Mean Streets of Gadgetzhan showed what a Goblin controlled area could look like;

[MabusGaming]

Eh, just like Pandaria wasn't all about Pandaren, an Undermine expansion wouldn't be all about Goblins. While Goblins definitely rule the place, Undermine has been portrayed as a pretty diverse, corrupt, cosmopolitan place. In fact, Hearthstone's Mean Streets of Gadgetzhan showed what a Goblin controlled area could look like;

Man I remember when we all wished Gadgetzhan got this major city revamp when they announced that. I think that was also the expansion that introduced Tortollans and look what happened, they came to be! haha.

[Edward Wu]

I think if I was to do a Goblin-focused expansion with a Tinker class, to get around the problem of Undermine being a subterranean borefest, I would also only relegate it to a sub-zone.

I would also have the main feature of the expansion basically be building up a zone live as the expansion rolls on, maybe a shared capital city that gets bigger and bigger with each successive patch and starts to encompass more and more content around it. Really condense the playerbase and make sure you can control their actions at a higher level so you can force community shenanigans that you couldn't before. Let it start out as a simple hub, then a more expansive one, then expands even further to include quest content and even dungeons and raids.

Basically take the Gadgetzan concept from Hearthstone and run with it. A Goblin-built town for everyone, encouraging emergent player behavior. Could be cool.

[huth]

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You never know.

To clean and not exploded enough. Also, needs more bling. This is goblins we're talking about.

[Khaza-R]

Eh, just like Pandaria wasn't all about Pandaren, an Undermine expansion wouldn't be all about Goblins. While Goblins definitely rule the place, Undermine has been portrayed as a pretty diverse, corrupt, cosmopolitan place. In fact, Hearthstone's Mean Streets of Gadgetzhan showed what a Goblin controlled area could look like;

If Undermine ended up being more of a metropolitan city rather than just completely Goblin focused, I could see it being the hub for an expansion. It would make sense something that supposed to be a massive center for trade would have dozens of races living there. Even some of the seedier one

[Mehrunes]

Says you. Person who thinks Shadowlands is a good expansion

I mean, that is a good point, but I still can't think of a possible future expansion that'd make SL look like the highpoint of WoW harder than that one.

[Syegfryed]

It is a good expansion. I'm not the biggest fan of the aesthetic overall but all of the systems are *chefs kiss* its still a better aesthetic than an entire expansion focused on Goblins/Gnomes would be.

Goblins and gnomes are at least, warcraft, unlike shadowlands bs.

"better aesthetic", lmao, shadowlands was the first wow expansion that it did not look like wow.