Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Graden]

Blizz: we are giving you cross faction premade groups for instances

Players: IM FORCED TO PLAY CROSS FACTION!!!

Not a joke I’ve seen this response too many times and it’s reminding me about the flex raiding announcement

It’s a great change that takes care of the feeling of being forced to play horde if you want to be competitive and unlike the “feeling forced to swap covenants for every boss” this is actually a real issue and the solution doesn’t really have a downside so far

I was arguing with a guy I know earlier because, according to him, ''this will utterly destroy immersion and RP in this game''.

[bruxx]

I was arguing with a guy I know earlier because, according to him, ''this will utterly destroy immersion and RP in this game''.

...RP is what you make of it lol

[Catastrophy349]

I'm thinking yeah, they built up a nice momentum with those announcements. Why not top it off with something even bigger.

Two ways of thinking about it (IMO): 1). It is only Monday. The fact that they made these two announcements at the start of the week certainly gives room for more news throughout (or at-least one other day of the week) the rest of the week. OR 2). They will drip feed us Warcraft related news little by little over the next few weeks ("coming weeks" as Ybarra said).

Guess we'll see. February 1 is tomorrow (a Tuesday) and we still have Diablo/Overwatch news ahead of us as well. We're also waiting for the 9.2 date, too.

[Revamp Man]

I was arguing with a guy I know earlier because, according to him, ''this will utterly destroy immersion and RP in this game''.

I guess if they RP in instances

[huth]

I was arguing with a guy I know earlier because, according to him, ''this will utterly destroy immersion and RP in this game''.

Because Horde and Alliance characters would never, ever, under any circumstances, work together? Except when they do.

[Catastrophy349]

GW2 release date/trailer got leaked early. Feb 28 release date. Now, let's see if WoW follows suit with 9.2 date haha.

Furthermore, loving all of the games coming out in February (whether you like them or not). Even ESO had their announcement last Thursday! HYPE 2022!

[Kohtra]

I think new pvp content is basically dead long term with cross faction. Maybe 10.0 will get something, but long term we aren't going to get new BGs or world pvp content. No way can they justify dev resources devoted to it when it doesn't make any kind of lore sense anymore.

[bagina]

I was arguing with a guy I know earlier because, according to him, ''this will utterly destroy immersion and RP in this game''.

If anything it enhances the RP potential. It's more authentic that way. Different races cooperate all the time in lore. Why would a random vulpera be against working with a night elf, and so on... Why should peaceful path not be allowed?

[huth]

If anything it enhances the RP potential. It's more authentic that way. Different races cooperate all the time in lore. Why would a random vulpera be against working with a night elf, and so on... Why should peaceful path not be allowed?

Because 40 years of in-lore time ago the Orcs attacked the Humans. Or something. No, i don't know why Vulpera and Night Elves would care about that, either.

[Kohtra]

Because 40 years of in-lore time ago the Orcs attacked the Humans. Or something. No, i don't know why Vulpera and Night Elves would care about that, either.

Uhhhh, Night Elves have been attacked multiple times by orcs since Warcraft 3...

[Graden]

Because 40 years of in-lore time ago the Orcs attacked the Humans. Or something. No, i don't know why Vulpera and Night Elves would care about that, either.

Exactly. Seriously, most of the complainers are being hilariously dramatic considering they can just ignore the new feature (which is only for instanced content) if they so choose.

[Jokubas]

Because Horde and Alliance characters would never, ever, under any circumstances, work together? Except when they do.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons it's driven me nuts in how long it's taken for Blizzard to do this.

The Horde and Alliance have been working together on and off since Warcraft III. As far as I'm concerned, that's the most compelling reason to make it a feature in game.

I really just don't know what to say to someone who says we shouldn't be able to work together because of the story, when we've been blatantly working together on and off on a regular basis. That's one of the things that's made it stick out so much that the players couldn't do it, because the canonical characters do it all the time.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Uhhhh, Night Elves have been attacked multiple times by orcs since Warcraft 3...

Yes.

Orcs.

[Kohtra]

Yes.

Orcs.

So Night Elves are not going to be happy with allies of orcs. Seems pretty reasonable.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

So Night Elves are not going to be happy with allies of orcs. Seems pretty reasonable.

That they made long after any hostile actions between the Alliance and Horde.

[Ersula]

So Night Elves are not going to be happy with allies of orcs. Seems pretty reasonable.

I would kindly ask everyone who thinks cross-faction is going to lead to "roleplay racism" to go outside & touch grass. Even if pvp & raiders took rp seriously that's not the same thing as "toxicity"

[huth]

Yeah, that's one of the reasons it's driven me nuts in how long it's taken for Blizzard to do this.

The Horde and Alliance have been working together on and off since Warcraft III. As far as I'm concerned, that's the most compelling reason to make it a feature in game.

I really just don't know what to say to someone who says we shouldn't be able to work together because of the story, when we've been blatantly working together on and off on a regular basis. That's one of the things that's made it stick out so much that the players couldn't do it, because the canonical characters do it all the time.

Even Blizzard acknowledged this in the blog. So at this point it's pretty much just people who don't want to because they don't want to and therefore neither should you be able to.

[Kohtra]

That they made long after any hostile actions between the Alliance and Horde.

These new allies joined right after Teldrassil was burned. I would assume the worst of anyone joining up with my enemies after they burned my home.

[Palapop]

I think new pvp content is basically dead long term with cross faction. Maybe 10.0 will get something, but long term we aren't going to get new BGs or world pvp content. No way can they justify dev resources devoted to it when it doesn't make any kind of lore sense anymore.

what makes you think so?
noraml (random) bgs still work the same way.

this cross-faction gameplay applies only to nor/hc/mythic raid, m+, arena/rbg.

pvp content is more than important.

And this makes pugging A LOT easier and funnier! big kudos!

[Kohtra]

what makes you think so?
noraml (random) bgs still work the same way.

this cross-faction gameplay applies only to nor/hc/mythic raid, m+, arena/rbg.

pvp content is more than important.

And this makes pugging A LOT easier and funnier! big kudos!

Blizzard's standard operating procedure is to develop content that makes sense with what's happening in-game. New BGs and PvP content generally only get developed when faction tensions are a thing. That's why we've only had 1 new BG/pvp zone since WoD. Seething Shore during the BfA prepatch was the last big pvp content update.

With faction cooperation being further built into the game there is no way they are going back to some kind of faction tension.