Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[TheFirstOnes]

You guys DO realize we have 5 more Zereth's to actually...go to, right? Light and Shadow's not gonna happen for a bit...

So, calm your shit people.

[huth]

You guys DO realize we have 5 more Zereth's to actually...go to, right? Light and Shadow's not gonna happen for a bit...

So, calm your shit people.

I mean, Light/Void could easily play into that, but that still leaves 3 others.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

It’s a reach if it’s naaru. It’s not a reach if it’s Titan.

Just following this trend, what would you say about the comparison of how Titan-y the EoD logo appears vs how Titan-y First Ones aesthetics appear?

I'd say the EoD is far less, but of course then it's interesting we're lead to believe TFO's are indeed separate from The Titans. (We'll see, lol.)

Idk, I get Goriona vibes from Dragon Soul when I saw this logo.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Goriona

The Naaru comparisons with their similar shapes to something like Xera are at least visually comparable to something we have seen (Lending credence to it being fake, I'd say), are probably a better lead than the forced 'must be a type of titan tech we haven't seen yet, like when they did that in 8.0' line of thinking.

It's gilding is fine fan art, but I will wonder what happened (who they lost maybe) with that part of the art department if it somehow is the real deal.
Why is it so chalky/brushstroke/painterly in comparison to even the clearly painted Shadowlands gilding? I've tried to see if it's just over-exposed for some reason, but I don't think so, and why would it be? it's a digital leak.

[Nyel]

No expansion has mixed three different themes into its logo. It's anti-aesthetic and unintuitive for newcomers.

A name like "Empire of Dragons" would require a more traditional artstyle, probably wooden or natural themed.

An expansion about the Naaru and/or the Void would have a different name, period.

That doesn't mean that either of those expansions couldn't feature the other things, but they wouldn't all be combined in the logo. Battle for Azeroth was ultimately about Old Gods, but the logo was war-themed to match the name and first patch.

Void Dragons exist and have been very present in the past. Xalatath is somewhere.

Would be easy to create an Empire of villainous void dragons and tie it to the Void in general.

[Hitei]

But that's what I said. It does illicit something but I mean that it's still pareidolia because everyone is seeing something different from it. Like I said it just makes me think it's gonna be an elf, dragon, and void heavy expansion. Its just something that clearly doesnt illicit anything in particular but it does give off a certain vibe.

But that's also part of why I think its fake. It gives off a Blizzard vibe but its not anything in particular where as every other lego instantly gives you a specific theme vibe.

Yes, exactly.

It is a reasonably high basic production quality, but then utterly fails on the basic design principles that are always very strong in wow logos.

[Nyel]

You guys DO realize we have 5 more Zereth's to actually...go to, right? Light and Shadow's not gonna happen for a bit...

So, calm your shit people.

Pretty much we never will. That’s just another part of lore that’s brought up but will never come to fruition. And honestly, who wants to visit five other Zereths? We‘re going to Zereth Mortis and the others will be forgotten in the long run, maybe mentioned once or twice.

[Sondrelk]

Pretty much we never will. That’s just another part of lore that’s brought up but will never come to fruition. And honestly, who wants to visit five other Zereths? We‘re going to Zereth Mortis and the others will be forgotten in the long run, maybe mentioned once or twice.

I would have loved if we went to a Zereth that has already been overtaken and become a stronghold.
Sadly Zereth Mortis seems to imply that once they get there they win, but learning for instance that the Void Lords used Zereth Umbra to create the Old Gods or generally just increase their numbers would have been such a neat plot development.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

No expansion has mixed three different themes into its logo. It's anti-aesthetic and unintuitive for newcomers.

A name like "Empire of Dragons" would require a more traditional artstyle, probably wooden or natural themed.

An expansion about the Naaru and/or the Void would have a different name, period.

That doesn't mean that either of those expansions couldn't feature the other things, but they wouldn't all be combined in the logo. Battle for Azeroth was ultimately about Old Gods, but the logo was war-themed to match the name and first patch.

Yeah Blizz likes the name/logo to be very concise. It's either based on the primary threat (BC, Wrath, Legion), the location we're going to (MoP, WoD, SL), or some major event attached to the expansion (Cata, BFA).

Empire of Dragons satisfies far as I can tell none of that. It looks like a void expansion which you'd only know if you dissected the logo.

[Nyel]

Yeah like every expansion logo is iconic when you see it you just know. Even like the Shadowlands logo felt right when it got leaked.

It's a really high quality fake probably one of the best we've ever got but it's definitely fake.

Pretty sure we cannot say that it’s definitely fake.

[Edward Wu]

You guys DO realize we have 5 more Zereth's to actually...go to, right? Light and Shadow's not gonna happen for a bit...

So, calm your shit people.

Fuck your Zereths. I'm not going.

[Nyel]

Yeah Blizz likes the name/logo to be very concise. It's either based on the primary threat (BC, Wrath, Legion), the location we're going to (MoP, WoD, SL), or some major event attached to the expansion (Cata, BFA).

Empire of Dragons satisfies far as I can tell none of that. It looks like a void expansion which you'd only know if you dissected the logo.

I think the name leaves enough room for speculation. We already have an Empire in the game, The Black Empire. This could be the reference the name is coming from. And many of the Old God servants do have Empires, too. Trolls do have Empires as well, iirc. So it’s not too far fetched.

I find Warlords of Draenor to be as unspecific. We had no idea who the warlords are before Blizzard announced them.

[Revamp Man]

Well, yes. That's what I'm saying. It seems odd there's so much to analyze there from the logo alone—it does seem awfully convenient that it's so excessively detailed with these little hints towards the qualities of the next expansion that it could spawn so much discussion.

To be fair though it’s just the border that caused discussion over the things in it being
Titan tech
Dragon horns
Elven armor
Naaru pieces

[Hitei]

I think the name leaves enough room for speculation. We already have an Empire in the game, The Black Empire. This could be the reference the name is coming from. And many of the Old God servants do have Empires, too. Trolls do have Empires as well, iirc. So it’s not too far fetched.

I find Warlords of Draenor to be as unspecific. We had no idea who the warlords are before Blizzard announced them.

But you knew exactly what Draenor was didn't you? And if you've played wow or warcraft for a decent amount of time, you should also have pretty much immediately recognized the bolted together metal with spikes + wood aesthetic iconic to Orc construction.

Note how, despite the Iron Horde having its own more industrial look of scrapped, jagged and sharp black metal with red fire, the logo still opts for the more traditional and recognizable orc aesthetic.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

I find Warlords of Draenor to be as unspecific. We had no idea who the warlords are before Blizzard announced them.

Nooo there was just constant talk about 'THE warlords of draenor' we already knew. Ner'zhul I think mostly, and then because Garrosh was still alive there was speculation of just basically an orcish war-party/nu horde again.
I'm pretty sure I even saw some people speculating we'd be going to the orcish afterlife plain and seeing these characters.

There were a few outliers of people in the "could be anything!" camp, but really there wasn't much doubt it was a reference to one of those characters from WC2-3 or their lineage/legacy in some way.

[Harbour]

I tend to believe the EoD logo is real and legit. Why? Because its weridly right and SPECIFIC in its themes.
Of course, one may say that the one who made the logo came to the same conclusion as some of us did: Light and Void themes are very hot in terms of build up in Legion, BFA and SL, and ready to shoot. Its hardly 11.0 material. Turalyon, Scarlet Crusade, Yrel, Alleria and Locuswalker stuff are very much ready to go. The guy or girl or people who made this logo came to the same conclusion, which isnt very spread around nowadays. Last couple months it was all about Dragons, dragons, isles, tinkers, dragons...
Thats why Void and Light hints on the logo background looks pretty pointy...

But dragons, well, there is not so much build up to it outside Wrathion. It feels like the one who made the logo and title knew exactly what the expansion is gonna be about and thow that Twilight-esque/Light-esque palette. With the dragons on it, because, probably, 10.0 will take place on Dragon Isles. It almost feels like thats not an amateur work. Amateur work is easy to spot - look at most logos that was "leaked" past month. Their palettes feels amateurish.

The dragon title with Void/Light logo behind simply feels belivable.

[KainneAbsolute]

No announcement? no new leaks?

[Nyel]

Nooo there was just constant talk about 'THE warlords of draenor' we already knew. Ner'zhul I think mostly, and then because Garrosh was still alive there was speculation of just basically an orcish war-party/nu horde again.
I'm pretty sure I even saw some people speculating we'd be going to the orcish afterlife plain and seeing these characters.

There were a few outliers of people in the "could be anything!" camp, but really there wasn't much doubt it was a reference to one of those characters from WC2-3 or their lineage/legacy in some way.

Were Kargath, Nerzhul, Grommash etc. ever specifically referenced as Warlords before WoD? I don’t think so, but I could be wrong.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

No announcement? no new leaks?

March 8th Release Date.

Zovaal Cinematic: March 22nd
WoW Expansion Date for Announcement Revealed On: March 24th.

[Arcinatoss]

Feeling real thankful that PoE has kept me occupied this past week, and is going to keep me occupied for quite a while longer. Makes the wait for 9.2 and 10.0 announcements bearable. ^^

[Kiivar86]

Prior to Cataclysm, arguments against its name when it was found were "the title always includes the antagonist and isn't a single word!"

Prior to MoP, arguments against its name when it was found were "the title is either the antagonist or the event itself, Mists is too ambiguous!"

Etc.

Empire of Dragons is a fine enough name. It could be the name of a new foe. It could be the name of a heretofore unknown region. It could be the event that the expansion involves. And it could be fake.

I wouldn't write off most titles, barring those with obvious misspellings or grammar (Dawn Awakenings for example)