Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Gloriandus]

De Other Other Side
Too greedily and too deep
No friends? No problem!
The art of Feng ShUI
Everything's a plus

[Chromatus]

World of Warcraft: Dragonflight

TLDR
Main enemy is Chromatus, though lots of minor stories all about.
6 disconnected zones (2 of them being revamps).
4 new micro classes (1 spec each) instead of one full new class.
Class ‘skins’ for some preexisting classes.
Player housing.
Carpenter and Logger professions.
Dalaran capitol city.
No level cap increase.

Rewards from Shadowlands just get scaled down. Everything in 10.0 is max level content (level 60) with no level squish, so there is no need to level if you already have max level characters. Progression is just endgame progression.

Dragon Isles. Technically its own continent though it’s just one zone split into multiple maps. Floating islands between the Broken Isles and Northrend.
Lordaeron. Revamped Tirisfal/Plaguelands. Scarlet/Light focus.
Quel’thalas. Revamped Eversong/Ghostlands. Silvermoon is a hostile city like Suramar.
Undermine. City-zone beneath Kezan. Criminals and Uncrowned story. Fully underground.
Balor. Halfling race dealing with primordial fel enemies (think proto-demons, like what the Shadowlands creatures are to undead).
Uldaz. Second fully underground zone ever on Azeroth. Titan/Elune story here.

Dragon Knight. Only one tank spec. Uses two-handed weapons, fire, plate armor and shouts.
Tinker class. Only one damage-dealer spec. Uses guns, mail armor, gadgets and mech suits.
Minstrel class. Only one healer spec. Uses leather, lutes, violins and panflutes.
Chronomancer class. Only one healer spec. Uses cloth, time magic, and sand magic.
Dark Ranger skin for Hunters. Dark spell effects. Tames undead instead of animals.
Necromancer skin for Warlocks. Plagues instead of curses. Summons undead instead of demons.
Nightmare skin for Druids. Corrupted spell effects and animal forms. Can unlock wildly different forms (that play the same as normal druids) like snakes and spiders.
Dragonsworn skin for Shamans. Draconic spell effects and forms.
Warden skin for Demon Hunters. Uses arcane and holy magic instead of fel.

Continued Order Hall stories, though only a select few and you pick them like Covenants. There are no gameplay differences between them, just different campaigns, mounts, mogs and companions. The Silver Hand, Uncrowned, Kirin Tor, Valarjar, and Black Harvest. You are not considered the leader of the order.

Expansion announcement February 28th. Announcement for the announcement planned for the 18th. Goal is to release Q1 2023.

[therumblings]

Not a bad leak, the only thing that throws me off is the microclasses thing. I don't think they would waste that many class ideas all at once.

[Makabreska]

that doesn't bother me, one bit. we already wait ages atm, nothing will change.

Not for you it wont.

[Chickat]

Not a bad leak, the only thing that throws me off is the microclasses thing. I don't think they would waste that many class ideas all at once.

Yeah, I also don't know if I like the thought of Shadowlands remaining the premier 50-60 leveling experience. I'd rather they just raise the cap to 70, then 80, 90, and 100, etc, and then do another squish.

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It's far from full.

We are missing a Vol'detort joke.

[ExiHext]

De Other Other Side
Too greedily and too deep
No friends? No problem!
The art of Feng ShUI
Everything's a plus

Any riddles on new paladin transmogs? I have to say SL really disappointed in that regard. :-)

Feng ShUI? May I dream of fully customizable UI without using addons? That would be great!

[KainneAbsolute]

World of Warcraft: Warcraft 4

WoW will have stories in the old world and new zones (Dragon Isles).

The Old World stories would be about new characters and conflicts between the Horde and Alliance. These stories will be delivered in small patches with a progressive revamp of some zones and quests.

- The story takes place after 10 years since the heroes entered the Shadowlands.
- People in Azeroth thought the heroes died in the Shadowlands. Turalyon cannot believe Anduin and the heroes are alive. He banishes them. The characters are sort of adventurers again.
- The warfare against the Alliance and Horde started again. However, Turalyon has a new ally; some people said it is a Draenei blessed by the Light.
- The Council of the Horde is a mess. Talanji wants to take revenge over her father's death.
- New quests in old zones. Incentives to complete main quests in Azeroth area to get transmog gear and transmog spell effects/animations. It is like having a subclass without changing the core mechanics. For example, the Dark Ranger special quest reveals more about the forsaken status.
- New crafting system that allows using old materials from old expansions to create bonus effects.

The main storyline is about the Dragon Isles, Azeroth, Elune, and Nozdormu.

- Zovaal is defeated, but Azeroth is silent. The limits between the Emerald Dream, the Shadowlands, and the elemental planes are weakened.
The dragons' power is necessary, and adventurers need to visit the mythical Dragon Isles: a prototype titan facility. However, the Dragon Isles are savage lands, isolated from the main continents for a long time. It has entirely new creatures.
- TheVoid Dragonflight is already in there.
- Nozdormu is an ally at the start, but some events reveal that maybe all the past events in Azeroth were a risky gamble by the Old Gods. He is not sure if he is a pawn of the Old Gods and if using the Dragons Isles is part of the plan.

No new classes, but lots of customization and zone revamp. One team will focus on the old world revamp and another team will focus on the main storyline (Dragon Isles). Blizzard thinks this approach would allow to adjust to players preferences.

[LordKharon]

I would not mind if we dont get a new class or new allied races. They should concentrate on the core game and make it the best they can. No bloat, no 100 little things that combined take a lot of time away from the important stuff.

[Makorus]

World of Warcraft: Warcraft 4

WoW will have stories in the old world and new zones (Dragon Isles).

The Old World stories would be about new characters and conflicts between the Horde and Alliance. These stories will be delivered in small patches with a progressive revamp of some zones and quests.

- The story takes place after 10 years since the heroes entered the Shadowlands.
- People in Azeroth thought the heroes died in the Shadowlands. Turalyon cannot believe Anduin and the heroes are alive. He banishes them. The characters are sort of adventurers again.
- The warfare against the Alliance and Horde started again. However, Turalyon has a new ally; some people said it is a Draenei blessed by the Light.
- The Council of the Horde is a mess. Talanji wants to take revenge over her father's death.
- New quests in old zones. Incentives to complete main quests in Azeroth area to get transmog gear and transmog spell effects/animations. It is like having a subclass without changing the core mechanics. For example, the Dark Ranger special quest reveals more about the forsaken status.
- New crafting system that allows using old materials from old expansions to create bonus effects.

The main storyline is about the Dragon Isles, Azeroth, Elune, and Nozdormu.

- Zovaal is defeated, but Azeroth is silent. The limits between the Emerald Dream, the Shadowlands, and the elemental planes are weakened.
The dragons' power is necessary, and adventurers need to visit the mythical Dragon Isles: a prototype titan facility. However, the Dragon Isles are savage lands, isolated from the main continents for a long time. It has entirely new creatures.
- TheVoid Dragonflight is already in there.
- Nozdormu is an ally at the start, but some events reveal that maybe all the past events in Azeroth were a risky gamble by the Old Gods. He is not sure if he is a pawn of the Old Gods and if using the Dragons Isles is part of the plan.

No new classes, but lots of customization and zone revamp. One team will focus on the old world revamp and another team will focus on the main storyline (Dragon Isles). Blizzard thinks this approach would allow to adjust to players preferences.

This one sounds so idiotic I don't know how you can not notice that while writing it.

Turalyon cannot believe Anduin and the heroes are alive. He banishes them.

????? And that's not even mentioning the fact that people could just come and go from the Shadowlands, we weren't trapped in there.

[Richardbro]

I hope we get a 2 week end of season notice today and a February 22 date for 9.2 hopefully. If we don't get anything today it's safe to assume it will be next Tuesday and a March 1st release for sure.

[Dracullus]

I hope we get a 2 week end of season notice today and a February 22 date for 9.2 hopefully. If we don't get anything today it's safe to assume it will be next Tuesday and a March 1st release for sure.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/shadowl...30th-eu-322826

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-9...-3rd-eu-324585

Check days when it was posted.

[Chickat]

As far as ARs mirroring existing races (in basic model design etc) were the only ones left the Forsaken and Worgen without a quasi-doppelganger AR?

I still wish they would add the skinny option to Kultiran. I want to play a skinny evil warlock.

[Lahis]

I still wish they would add the skinny option to Kultiran. I want to play a skinny evil warlock.

Kul Tirans can't be warlocks.

[Richardbro]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/shadowl...30th-eu-322826

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-9...-3rd-eu-324585

Check days when it was posted.

Okay I stand corrected, they seem to be doing a Thursday announcement, 12 days prior this expansion.

So if we don't hear anything by this Thursday, it is most likely going to be a March 1st release date announced next week.

[Chickat]

Kul Tirans can't be warlocks.

They could with more race/class combos.

[Raetary]

We are missing a Vol'detort joke.

I don't think i'd be allowed to post that lol.

[Chickat]

I don't think i'd be allowed to post that lol.

Probably not i guess lol.

[Nyel]

Okay I stand corrected, they seem to be doing a Thursday announcement, 12 days prior this expansion.

So if we don't hear anything by this Thursday, it is most likely going to be a March 1st release date announced next week.

Yeah, it's Thursdays 12 days before the official launch. If we go by that, this "leak" can already be debunked (if we needed more signs for that) as it's one week too early.

At this point Thursday seems to be the date we can expect the patch announcement.

[micwini]

Hoping for a new build today with some music in it.

[OokOok]

stages of Blizzard that happen every expansion

Stage 1 - Release a beta/ptr with a bunch of shit no one likes
Stage 2 - Act like they care and are trying. Respond to questions/concerns/feedback and be active in communicating with the player base
Stage 3 - Make changes the players want that will bring back subs in time for the expansion or patch launch
Stage 4 - Get subs
Stage 5 - Stop caring, make changes no one wants that will make people unsub again when the patch/expansion goes live
Stage 6 - release cash shop item to make up for subs lost
Stage 7 - Get money
Stage 8 - Release statement about how they are listening and care and will change the stuff from stage 5 that no one wanted to begin with
Stage 9 - Win hearts and minds
Stage 10 - Repeat stage 1-9

Currently PTR is in stage 5