Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Chickat]

Except it's not. It's only half of a sphere.

Are you really suggesting that this is proof that WoW will never have another continent again?

Also, since you seem to think that the picture is the whole globe, where is the other half of the sphere that you are claiming is missing? The maps cover the same portion of the globe, only the Legion once obscures Pandaria with a cloud.

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Because if others are entitled to 15,000 posts about dumbass dragon isles posts I'm allowed to speculate. It's a #**Ding speculation thread.

Sure, you can have whatever opinion you want, but you are trying to state your opinion as a fact.

[ATZenith]

Blizzard retcons stuff every expansion. It’s not far fetched to say there are continents on the other side. It’s really just a matter if Blizzard wants to do that or not. Every new expansion continent just magically appeared lol. Which not the other side of Azeroth?

[Zankai27]

The Map is not a map: It is the Azeroth texture as Zovaal assaults it. Which means any prospective future landmasses should be there.

Unless the devs haven't added them yet because they don't want us to see them...? The literal map of Azeroth in Ulduar doesn't have Broken Isles, Kul Tiras OR Zandalar on it

[Cosmic Janitor]

Speculating on maps that don't show something is like reading tea leaves. It could always change and we have precendence for it. This kind of speculation only starts to become sensible once they actually change maps to include something new, until then it's just rehashing old stuff.

[Marlamin]

I think all the actually interesting speculating on the globe model/Jailer fight hasn't been done yet, nor has a lot of datamining actually happened around the Jailer encounter and there's way more recent stuff to be found than what has been covered by e.g's Wowhead article so far (possibly on purpose to try not to spoil the encounter too much, but we don't really care about that in this thread).

For context, this is the actual model for 9du_progenitorraid_jailerfight_azerothglobe01, speculating just based on the texture isn't very useful as it appears to be largely covered by some sort of orange glow coming from the bottom of the model, I'm gonna speculate said glow is being caused by the Reorigination spell/laser beam and/or Azeroth being "unmade" but it's hard to tell without it being used in its proper context during the fight.

There's also the whole speculation around the LivingWorld thing and I've seen a bunch of people speculate that it might be used during the Jailer encounter instead of being a 10.0 thing. But for that theory to work it would have to be using a model that is currently encrypted, as the above Azeroth model has no animations (and as such no LivingWorld animations) and is pretty useless as far as models go.

There are a bunch of interesting spell name additions/renames as well this build, some of which might be for encounters (or something entirely different): https://wow.tools/dbc/diff.php?dbc=s...ew=9.2.0.42257

[Aucald]

Are you really suggesting that this is proof that WoW will never have another continent again?

Also, since you seem to think that the picture is the whole globe, where is the other half of the sphere that you are claiming is missing? The maps cover the same portion of the globe, only the Legion once obscures Pandaria with a cloud.

The developers are pretty much on record as saying "we can make up entire continents out of nowhere if it fits a story we want to tell." That's pretty much how the previously unknown continent of Pandaria came to be - ditto for previously unknown areas like the Twilight Highlands or Uldum. Basically put, Azeroth has as many potential landmasses as the story requires.

[Chickat]

I think all the actually interesting speculating on the globe model/Jailer fight hasn't been done yet, nor has a lot of datamining actually happened around the Jailer encounter and there's way more recent stuff to be found than what has been covered by e.g's Wowhead article so far (possibly on purpose to try not to spoil the encounter too much, but we don't really care about that in this thread).

For context, this is the actual model for 9du_progenitorraid_jailerfight_azerothglobe01, speculating just based on the texture isn't very useful as it appears to be largely covered by some sort of orange glow coming from the bottom of the model, I'm gonna speculate said glow is being caused by the Reorigination spell/laser beam and/or Azeroth being "unmade" but it's hard to tell without it being used in its proper context during the fight.

There's also the whole speculation around the LivingWorld thing and I've seen a bunch of people speculate that it might be used during the Jailer encounter instead of being a 10.0 thing. But for that theory to work it would have to be using a model that is currently encrypted, as the above Azeroth model has no animations (and as such no LivingWorld animations) and is pretty useless as far as models go.

There are a bunch of interesting spell name additions/renames as well this build, some of which might be for encounters (or something entirely different): https://wow.tools/dbc/diff.php?dbc=s...ew=9.2.0.42257

What is the aurora-looking spot on the bottom of the globe? Is it literally what I just said it looked like? That's worth speculating on imo.

Nvm, I hadn't finished reading your post. Yeah, it probably is the beam of origination.

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The developers are pretty much on record as saying "we can make up entire continents out of nowhere if it fits a story we want to tell." That's pretty much how the previously unknown continent of Pandaria came to be - ditto for previously unknown areas like the Twilight Highlands or Uldum. Basically put, Azeroth has as many potential landmasses as the story requires.

Yep, exactly. So Ersula's claims are just wrong. The new map/globe means nothing for future content.

[Marlamin]

While I'm tempted to dive deeper into things, just like I did with the emerald drake possibly being in the bundle (which is still just conjecture for those latching onto it as proof of dragon isles), this was an intense build to datamine due to the music naming and I've been awake for far too long now. Hoping someone can take a look at some of those spells and their effects to see it there's anything interesting there, or in spell changes of the last few builds.

[Hitei]

There are a bunch of interesting spell name additions/renames as well this build, some of which might be for encounters (or something entirely different): https://wow.tools/dbc/diff.php?dbc=s...ew=9.2.0.42257

Broker City Intro RP Conversation [DNT]

Broker new race confirmed, can't convince me otherwise.

[Ersula]

Sure, you can have whatever opinion you want, but you are trying to state your opinion as a fact.

First of all, this is a speculation thread: That's what everyone's doing. Two, stating your opinion as fact is what Talesin & Bellular do for a living.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

Kind of interesting to rename a vague action into something that provides some potential context to the nature of the "Console".

[Ersula]

Broker new race confirmed, can't convince me otherwise.

I'm going to say something I will never, ever say again: I hope you're right.

[Chickat]

Broker new race confirmed, can't convince me otherwise.

We sure its not just a minor change to the dungeon?

[MCMLXXXII]

It's impossible to see all continents when you look at a planet from far away. A satellite can because it combines different pictures. And ofcourse if Blizzard are going to add a new continent or island they won't show it already. They this stuff gets datamined asap after it goes live.

[Hitei]

We sure its not just a minor change to the dungeon?

Seems to be an addition not a change, but yes, I'm sure it's something minor. Probably a new RP bit at the start of Zereth Mortis' city, since that also features Brokers.

[Marlamin]

We sure its not just a minor change to the dungeon?

It probably is, Broker City == Tazavesh name internally (I believe). There's similar spells for seemingly older content in recent builds, not sure why but not necessarily indicative of any noteworthy changes.

Edit: I think the Zereth town is called Broker Hub but I'm not sure now, so could be that too.

[bruxx]

We sure its not just a minor change to the dungeon?

An introduction to haven was what came to mind. Not that I'd be opposed to broker early access... Though I'd be personally sad that it'd decrease the chances of ever getting ethereal.

[Izalla]

So we all know the maps and globes can't be trusted because they always get replaced when a new landmass is added (or one that already existed in lore is changed in some way), and because Blizz themselves have said it. I like that they left the entire back of that globe empty instead of squeezing Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms a bit closer together though. It is still silly that the southern points of Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms and all of Pandaria are at the bottom of the globe though because a bunch of hot deserts and jungles and then WoW-China being the south pole is just weird. How many expacs before we end up with a Southrend?

[Dracullus]

I don't have high hopes for today, but since music build was Tuesday, it's worth to check what will happen 7/8 PM EU time.

[Hitei]

Holy crap, this new music is so good!

Did you guys notice the new tavern music? Revamp team where you at!

My guess is either some sort of tribute to WoW is happening with the anniversary, for example a new tavern is being patched into the game and this music will be used there... or, they are literally revamping this thing in 9.2.5 or 10.0.

It's part of Darkmoon.

Correct, those are for the Darkmoon event.

Pride of the Seas
4438819 - Music
4438821 - Fail
4438823 - Pass
4438825 - Victory

Lion's Pride
4438811 - Music
4438813 - Fail
4438815 - Pass
4438817 - Victory

Call to Arms
4438803 - Music
4438805 - Fail
4438807 - Pass
4438809 - Victory