Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Chickat]

O shit guys this is it! This guy broke the pattern!

It sounds okay, but im sad about no new class or revamp, so i dont want it to be real. It sounds like another bare minimum expansion. If thats all it is, I at least need a new class to be hyped.

[Chickat]

This "leak" is very cool because it is told very differently. We get the perspective of someone who saw the "10.0 expansion trailer" instead of the typical 3 pages of text with story elements, or very minimal effort into the features. My issues with this leak lie with the contents (seems rather small/dull). I would be very disappointed if this is real due to, in my opinion, feeling that 10.0 needs to be HUGE for both Blizzard and the community.

I know many will say that this "leaker" has awful grammar and punctuation; however, reading this from a non-bias perspective, this person could simply have seen the video and told us their thoughts (does not matter at all whether or not they have good grammar skills or not).

For the record, I do NOT believe this "leak" to be true.

Yeah, I dont think its true either, but the way they described the look of the zones had me going for a second. The zones sound gorgeous.

[micwini]

ya know what..










































no

I dont even know what a snip is.

[Teriz]

So how will Tinkers fight Void Dragons?

I only ask because I'm dying to see a tinker fan say something other than 'muh nuts and bolts'

Any cool magic involved with Tinkers? at all..?

Yes, Azerite.

Which is crystallized Titan blood, and greatly enhances the power of machines.

There’s also these;





Which are companion items that showed up at the very end of BFA and in 9.1 respectively. The lore attached to these items were… interesting.

[Hitei]

So, shouldnt they announce the addon soon? Shadowlands took 1 year? I guess 9.2 will last 9 months or much longer ...

People seem attached to the idea that it's not going to happen before the ending cinematic for Sepulcher. I imagine it will probably be announced this month.

[micwini]

Again;



Why is everyone having a hard time connecting the void to dragons?

This would be the same as making the Legion logo red and then posting a picture of an Eredar. There´s more than just void dragons bruv

[Sondrelk]

Yes. Extremely.

It is terrible design and marketing to have a logo that doesn't communicate what the expansion is about until a year+ into the expansion. That is why BfA's is not Ny'alotha colored and themed. Do you see how absolutely retarded that would be? A bunch of obelisks and eyes for an expansion that then, for a year, has nothing to do with that at all? An Orgrimmar-style logo for Mists of Pandaria?


Should it be tacky? No. But I'm pretty sure beyond your strawman here you actually do understand that it being draconic would be much more coherent than an indesphirable theme that might have to do with old gods, or maybe the void, or maybe celestial forces and elune, or maybe ethereals potentially showing up in 10.2.5 or 10.3.

I can agree that something purely draconic would fit a purely draconic expansion, but the point is that you are going by the assumption that the expansion is purely draconic instead of dragons being an introductory element to the story alongside something more void themed, which I might remind you is a perfectly fitting plot to go alongside dragons.

Would you have been confused if the BfA logo was old god themed if old gods was an even heavier element than it was? Or would you have preferred Legion if the logo was more elf themed to go alongside all the Nelf ruins and Suramar in the core and first two major patches?

You are making the preemptive assumption that the purple logo isn't a fit for the expansion despite it literally having nothing to firmly go on besides the name being about dragons.
What if the Dragon Isles are in the Old God realm? Or in space. What if the plot is heavily leaning on the Dragons struggle to be rid of the void, or as someone discussed before, a dragonflight whose main colour scheme in both appearance and architecture fits the logo?

Maybe they wanted to go with a more draconic logo, but the ones they workshopped were too tacky, or ugly, or clashed with other expansion logos?
Maybe they literally sat there and thought that purple is an expansion logo theme that hasn't been done, and it would look really cool with a starry backdrop to hint at the greater story with dragons?

The void is a heavy theme with the Twilight, Infinite, Void, and Black Dragonflight. It's not a massive leap to assume that it might have a strong presence in a dragon themed expansion, and that a purple and starry themed logo would fit decently well in addition to looking really good.

[Holdodlig]

Which is crystallized Titan blood, and greatly enhances the power of machines.

There’s also these;





Which are companion items that showed up at the very end of BFA and in 9.1 respectively. The lore attached to these items were… interesting.

I don't think the random mech dragons are actual clues for the dragon expansion. If you want clues, you simply have to dig into 9.2 where there's for no reason a draconic line in Zereth Mortis.

As for the idea of the announcement, it's because Blizzconline was scheduled for febuary. But it is pretty clear that the next expansion won't be shown before Zereth Mortis' epilogue.

[Niwes]

Outside of Ebonhorne, he's the only black dragon with a background. And Sabelan or whatever is his name but he's been ignored since BC and I hardly see Danuser remember this guy.

dont forget that Huln Tauren from BfA, however he was called.

[Teriz]

This would be the same as making the Legion logo red and then posting a picture of an Eredar. There´s more than just void dragons bruv

Dang man, did you just miss our entire conversation? The lore behind those dragons is that Vexonia was using Nzoth as a giant super void corruption nursery for her brood. Wrathion uncorrupted one of them, but there’s bound to be more out there.

Also that’s a new model from BFA. The original twilight drakes don’t look like that. Those are the voidwings, which are void twisted like their mother Vexonia.

[Chickat]

Can you all stop bickering like kobolds around a candle and get back to the actual speculation in a respectful manner? Thanks ♥



I'm really hoping for something more grounded as well

YES! A vanilla style expansion would be great. Each patch with random raids and low stakes. Idc if the raid is The Defias Mansion. Make it look cool, and make the bosses fun and im all in.

[Holdodlig]

dont forget that Huln Tauren from BfA, however he was called.

Nah Huln was a tauren blessed by Cenarius. The dragon tauren is Ebonhorny.

[Sondrelk]

So, shouldnt they announce the addon soon? Shadowlands took 1 year? I guess 9.2 will last 9 months or much longer ...

The next expansion was set to be announced in two days at the cancelled Blizzconline, and since the last one seemed suspiciously prerecorded it could really be at any time.
Probably not until after Mythic has opened though. No point in announcing something right in the middle of the busy new patch timeslot. And Blizzard could probably gain some extra time by announcing it right as the expansion is officially "done".

[Teriz]

I don't think the random mech dragons are actual clues for the dragon expansion. If you want clues, you simply have to dig into 9.2 where there's for no reason a draconic line in Zereth Mortis.

Why wouldn’t mech dragons (introduced in the same time frame as the other hints) not be clues towards a dragon expansion?

[Sondrelk]

YES! A vanilla style expansion would be great. Each patch with random raids and low stakes. Idc if the raid is The Defias Mansion. Make it look cool, and make the bosses fun and im all in.

Really it's those kinds of patches we miss out on the most with actual expansions.
No chance of a patch between BfA and SL where we are told to go to Desolace to complete a centaur raid, or to Booty Bay to stop a Pirate invasion.

A lower stakes expansion with only lore "offcuts" so to speak would be great for just re-establishing lore slowly.

[Chickat]

dont forget that Huln Tauren from BfA, however he was called.

That is Ebonhorn.

[Nyel]

Really it's those kinds of patches we miss out on the most with actual expansions.
No chance of a patch between BfA and SL where we are told to go to Desolace to complete a centaur raid, or to Booty Bay to stop a Pirate invasion.

A lower stakes expansion with only lore "offcuts" so to speak would be great for just re-establishing lore slowly.

Problem of expansion, I guess. Unless we don’t have a revamp or an expansion that’s solely dedicated towards the Azeroth we know this won’t happen. The game really needs a breather and because we don’t get WoW 2 we should really get something that’s just updating recent stories instead of introducing new ones.

[Holdodlig]

Why wouldn’t mech dragons (introduced in the same time frame as the other hints) not be clues towards a dragon expansion?

Because they've been around since vanilla, they take two existing design without actually bringing something new and since Mechagon was around when the mech dragon mount was around, they don't seem out of place. Unless there's a tinker class with dragon island, I would not consider them as clue.

[Chickat]

dont forget that Huln Tauren from BfA, however he was called.

Wait nvm im wrong. Wrong character.

[Teriz]

Because they've been around since vanilla, they take two existing design without actually bringing something new and since Mechagon was around when the mech dragon mount was around, they don't seem out of place. Unless there's a tinker class with dragon island, I would not consider them as clue.

Uh, read the lore. The Steamscale Incinerator has nothing to do with Mechagon, and the TMD was released during Shadowlands.

Also we haven’t had mechanical dragons since Cataclysm, and those were all trinkets. Also the Steamscale is a completely new design.