Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[huth]

I still have no idea why y'all so dead set that they will announce the next expansion in the next ~ 4 weeks. It can happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath that it's definitely the case.

I could see them wanting to wait for the finale to be available, but if they don't, it could be months.

[ExiHext]

They won't wait for the announcement til LFR is completely open...people will know in advance what happens through the campaign. The longest I can see them waiting is til the last chapter of the campaign.

[Shadochi]

I still have no idea why y'all so dead set that they will announce the next expansion in the next ~ 4 weeks. It can happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath that it's definitely the case.

I'm just going based of the info that they probably originally planned to announce it during Blizzconline which was supposed to take place in this timeframe, and with the next patch being so close what from it it makes sense to wait to release before the expansion, which are:
1. Raid finale cinematic
2. Final chapter opening
3. Race for world first ends (not to clash their announcement with the event)

I don't see a world where they would benefit from LFR waiting IF an announcement was supposed to be in this timeframe originally, just wait for the story and community events to finish.

[mysticmisty]

Speculation -
If 10.0 doesn’t have a graphically updated Kalimdor and eastern kingdoms with player housing in main zones it’s gonna be a FLOP

[ExiHext]

Speculation -
If 10.0 doesn’t have a graphically updated Kalimdor and eastern kingdoms with player housing in main zones it’s gonna be a FLOP

Then prepare for a "flop".

[Kiria]

Yes, because BFA was hinting at a few major themes; Technology (mechagon, Tinker teams in Island Expeditions, Gazlowe becoming leader of the Goblins, Mekkatorque becoming king of the Gnomes, return to Kezan) Void (N'zoth, Azshara, Vexonia, Voidwings), and Dragons (Wrathion, Dragon Isles, Vexonia, Voidwings). After BFA we got Exile's Reach in Shadowlands, which once again hinted at Tinkers and Dragons.

You do realise that BFA also pushed Dark Rangers extremely hard aswell, don't be ignorant to that.

[micwini]

Then prepare for a "flop".

Prepare to be unflopped sir.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Looking for the real leak like

*snip*

This made the thread haha, thanks!

[mysticmisty]

Lmao no it wont. Just like every other expansion it'll sell out the wazoo and nerds will still find ways to do mental gymnastics to explain how it's actually a sign the game is dead that the expansion sells 4 million copies on/by release day.

I meant considered a flop by the players not by capitalistic metrics. Cata, wod, bfa and sl made bank but are still considered flop eras

[Teriz]

You do realise that BFA also pushed Dark Rangers extremely hard aswell, don't be ignorant to that.

I wouldn’t consider Sylvanas slaughtering a bunch of Nightelves and rezzing them as undead Hunters to be “pushing DRs very hard”.

[ExiHext]

I meant considered a flop by the players not by capitalistic metrics. Cata, wod, bfa and sl made bank but are still considered flop eras

Wow, and people are still playing a game of which four of the last six expacs were flops? Impressive.

[Black Rider]

They won’t give us Dalaran as a capital for the third time. No f* way.

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Seems way too early. TBC was released just 8.5 months ago. Natural timeline for WotLk Classic would be end of the year, this seems quite out of place now.

Look from $$ standpoint. WOTLK will make the most money.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I meant considered a flop by the players not by capitalistic metrics. Cata, wod, bfa and sl made bank but are still considered flop eras

This forum isn't the the playerbase.

[ExiHext]

Prepare to be unflopped sir.

I wouldn't be opposed but I still strongly recommend lowering expectations in that regard...

[Kiria]

I wouldn’t consider Sylvanas slaughtering a bunch of Nightelves and rezzing them as undead Hunters to be “pushing DRs very hard”.

There was also a lot of Story beats which were creating a buildup for them, Don't just dismiss all that because it doesnt align with your fantasies.

[mysticmisty]

You mean actual players? Or people in online spaces that dont play but have really strong opinions as to why theyre right and anyone who disagrees is wrong?

That sounds more aggressive than Im going for but hopefully you get what I mean.

I see what your saying but I’m just saying that cata and wod had players leaving in much higher numbers than the prior expansions and the devs themselves recognised the issues with bfa and Sl

I personally loved wods raids and bfas zones but that doesn’t mist over the lack of content and the misguided/disliked systems.

[huth]

I see what your saying but I’m just saying that cata and wod had players leaving in much higher numbers than the prior expansions and the devs themselves recognised the issues with bfa and Sl

I personally loved wods raids and bfas zones but that doesn’t excuse the lack of content and misguided and disliked systems.

How would you know? They never gave us numbers on that. We only got total active subscriptions, not how many new subscriptions were created and old ones expired.

The drop in WoD was also immediately preceeded by a massive spike in subs. It only dropped back to normal levels and then continued to slowly shrink at roughly the same rate as before the spike.

Neither of these are valid indicators for the correlations you claim.

[micwini]

I wouldn't be opposed but I still strongly recommend lowering expectations in that regard...

If I set my expectations low, I can't be dissappointed. If I can't be dissappointed, I can't be mad at blizzard.
This is the way.

[Teriz]

There was also a lot of Story beats which were creating a buildup for them, Don't just dismiss all that because it doesnt align with your fantasies.

Considering that the current expansion has been nothing short of the "Sylvanas show" and we didn't get a Dark Ranger class, I feel that it's perfectly fair to completely dismiss "all of that".

[Nyel]

Look from $$ standpoint. WOTLK will make the most money.

That's definitely true and for 2023 they are pretty set on high financial results due to the next WoW expansion and WotLK Classic. It's basically their big $$$ year.

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Speculation -
If 10.0 doesn’t have a graphically updated Kalimdor and eastern kingdoms with player housing in main zones it’s gonna be a FLOP

Nah, it will just be another lame a** boring expansion like BfA and Shadowlands.