Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

There’s quite a lot preventing them from doing so just from a gameplay/mechanical perspective that’s already been discussed here.
It’s not gonna happen.

Nothing you brought up is a significant problem that Blizzard couldn't overcome. I mean one of your issues were hitbox size, as if Blizzard doesn't have experience in that department, or that a dragon of this size;



Would blind an entire raid and make them unable to see a massive raid boss.

[Jekyll]

Dragonmaw Orcs are already playable.

Nope. Dragonmaw Orcs has bluish-grey skin with glowing eyes, and are corrupted by fel magic as well, unlike Mag'har Orcs. They are not playable. There are friendly Dragonmaw NPCs, but you can't customize your Orc with Dragonmaw skin.

[Nightshade711]

Nothing you brought up is a significant problem that Blizzard couldn't overcome. I mean one of your issues were hitbox size, as if Blizzard doesn't have experience in that department, or that a dragon of this size;



Would blind an entire raid and make them unable to see a massive raid boss.

Except there’s never been a time where players would be that big in content for several raids/dungeons.

Take a look at the two final bosses of the last two raids. Both have mechanics that’re either packed together and/or on a very small platform.
Having a huge hitbox means you’d easily get hit by mechanics in PvE (not even counting dungeons like Tol Dagor).
And that’s all just talking about the PvE issues…PvP is another whole can of worms.

[username993720]

Nothing prevents them from doing so.

Their addition pattern.

???

Alter Time literally heals you.

Others.

And in wod when we fought Kairoz, if you weren't the one healing it was Chromie that did.

Chromie isn't a healer in HotS.

lmao. I mean Frost magic hasn't been used to make a tank spec, but it also makes complete sense it could be used in such a way. Same reason as to why so many Earth based Shaman Tank specs also exist.

You mean in concept?

That has literally nothing to do with Chromie's version. The spells do entirely different things.

Their names are identical.
Her Dragon's Breath is, literally, a sand version of Flamestrike.

Dragon's Breath
65 Mana Cooldown: 14 seconds
Launch 3 blasts into the air that land every 0.75 seconds toward the targeted direction, dealing 215 damage each.


Flamestrike
2.5% of base mana 40 yd range
4 sec cast
Requires Mage (Fire)
Requires level 17
Calls down a pillar of fire, burning all enemies within the area for (54.756% of Spell power) Fire damage and reducing their movement speed by 20% for 8 sec.

Again, where is the current WoW class using the sands of time as a method of attack and control? I'm not aware of one.

Just a matter of recoloration.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

The latter. A taste of his own medicine.

Carry on then I guess. This whole conversation just isn't on good faith so what's even the point.

[Raetary]

Nope. Dragonmaw Orcs has bluish-grey skin with glowing eyes, and are corrupted by fel magic as well

I dunno dude, they look identitcal.

[Zers Editor]

Gotta admit, the stuff Jake Lefkowitz did for 9.2 is some of the best this game had since Legion.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I dunno dude, they look identitcal.

They are as playable as High Elves are on the Alliance. Whether this is a positive or a negative take lies entirely in your own mindset.

[Raetary]

Others.

.... What?

Chromie isn't a healer in HotS.

So?
Chromie, in the game World of Warcraft during the expansion pack Warlords of Draenor acted as a healer during one of the legendary ring quests.
Therefore yes, Chronomancy can be used and has been show to be able to heal others.

[Jekyll]

I dunno dude, they look identitcal.

Nope. Different lighting causes identical colouration. The top one is a Blackrock Orc and is Dark Grey. The bottom one is a Dragonmaw Orcs and is Bluish Gray.

This is the colour of Dragonmaw Orcs under neutral lighting conditions.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

The eye glow between Dragonmaw orcs and Mag'har orcs seems to be different enough to have a distinction. Mag'har orcs eyes include a yellow-ish/orange-ish coloration to them (that look like they are glowing)... Dragonmaw orc eyes have a distinct yellow glow emitting from them. One could mistake a Dragonmaw orc for being "lightforged"...


Also, I think Dragonmaw orcs used to have dragon tattoos on them as a part of their culture and their models used to reflect that.

[Jekyll]

The eye glow between Dragonmaw orcs and Mag'har orcs seems to be different enough to have a distinction. Mag'har orcs eyes include a yellow-ish/orange-ish coloration to them (that look like they are glowing)... Dragonmaw orc eyes have a distinct yellow glow emitting from them. One could mistake a Dragonmaw orc for being "lightforged"...


Also, I think Dragonmaw orcs used to have dragon tattoos on them as a part of their culture and their models used to reflect that.

IIRC, We can't customize our Orcs into Shattered hand skins as well. Dragonmaw, Shattered Hands, Laughing Skulls, Bleeding Hollows and Black Rock all have different grey hues (Laughing Skulls and Bleeding Hollows are almost the same, save some can be brown with paints and some with piercings but grey), but they're very different side by side.

[Edward Wu]

If we get another Cata-like revamp with thousands of new quests I will literally just kneel to Blizzard. That's all I've ever wanted for years.

[Teriz]

Except there’s never been a time where players would be that big in content for several raids/dungeons.

Guardian Druid were bears were pretty darn big;



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Their addition pattern.

Which aligns just fine with a Dragonborne class inclusion.

Their names are identical.
Her Dragon's Breath is, literally, a sand version of Flamestrike.

Dragon's Breath
65 Mana Cooldown: 14 seconds
Launch 3 blasts into the air that land every 0.75 seconds toward the targeted direction, dealing 215 damage each.


Flamestrike
2.5% of base mana 40 yd range
4 sec cast
Requires Mage (Fire)
Requires level 17
Calls down a pillar of fire, burning all enemies within the area for (54.756% of Spell power) Fire damage and reducing their movement speed by 20% for 8 sec.




Just a matter of recoloration.

Uh no. Chromie's ability in WoW wouldn't do fire damage (because it's sand, not fire), and it launches three shots into the air, whereas Flamestrike hits once. Flamestrike slows, and Dragon's Breath does not.

Again, not remotely the same ability. You might as well say Frostbolt and Shadowbolt are the same ability....

[Nightshade711]

Guardian Druid were bears were pretty darn big;



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Which aligns just fine with a Dragonborne class inclusion.



Uh no. Chromie's ability in WoW wouldn't do fire damage (because it's sand, not fire), and it launches three shots into the air, whereas Flamestrike hits once. Flamestrike slows, and Dragon's Breath does not.

Again, not remotely the same ability. You might as well say Frostbolt and Shadowbolt are the same ability....

Yes, because that’s a guardian Druid using a growth potion.
And that model, even with the growth potion, isn’t nearly as long as a dragon would be.

And is something that’s very rare. Different than something an entire class would have/be actively using.

[Raetary]

Mag'har orcs eyes include a yellow-ish/orange-ish coloration to them (that look like they are glowing)

That's just how Blizzard depicts glowing eyes nowadays.
Night elf eyes are also just very brightly colored balls.

[huth]

Yes, because that’s a guardian Druid using a growth potion.
And that model, even with the growth potion, isn’t nearly as long as a dragon would be.

And is something that’s very rare. Different than something an entire class would have/be actively using.

Tanks usually don't stand in the middle of the camp, either. And while it is big, it's footprint actually isn't. You can still see reasonably well what's going on below it.

[Teriz]

Yes, because that’s a guardian Druid using a growth potion.

And that model, even with the growth potion, isn’t nearly as long as a dragon would be.

Okay, then make player dragons about the size of Devilsaurs (Hunter pet).

[Nightshade711]

Okay, then make player dragons about the size of Devilsaurs (Hunter pet).

Hunter pets don't take damage if they're hit by mechanics they're too big to avoid

[Catastrophy349]

If we get another Cata-like revamp with thousands of new quests I will literally just kneel to Blizzard. That's all I've ever wanted for years.

I would do WAY more than kneel