1. #25201
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    BfA was first global launch, but how it relate to number of pre-orders, I have no idea. xD

    Btw, don't want to sound petty, but it's not hard to check basic facts people. It literally take a minute in google. So many times discussion derails because two people argue over some meaningless detail.
    I guess if you really want to pretend a <36* hour delay for Asian servers is no longer ""global"", sure.

    *fixed

  2. #25202
    Did I miss anything interesting in the past hundred pages or so? Any lingering mysteries or credible rumours? I don’t want to sift through all the back-and-forth I saw going on when I clicked back a few pages…

  3. #25203
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I guess if you really want to pretend a <36* hour delay for Asian servers is no longer ""global"", sure.

    *fixed
    Sigh.

    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    Did I miss anything interesting in the past hundred pages or so? Any lingering mysteries or credible rumours? I don’t want to sift through all the back-and-forth I saw going on when I clicked back a few pages…
    Any interesting info would be repeat maany times. Not only on this thread. For people not interested in 9.2 at all, next 3 weeks here will be just killing time I guess.
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  4. #25204
    Eh, sometimes the interesting stuff is buried in the usual “discussions” people insist upon having. Worth asking!

  5. #25205
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis igneus View Post
    While it's probably up for debate if DHs or belfs for the alliance had more impact on sales, BfA was also the first global launch they did if my memory serves me right.
    On one hand you didn't have to do anything to unlock DHs, while allied races (Ren'dorei included) required you to complete certain story questlines and grind reputation with some Legion factions. On the other hand, the Ren'dorei (and other allied races) have multiple class choices, which means they offer a more varied game experience by default, while the DHs are just one class. They also had more unique and elaborate kinds of racial abilities that certainly intruiged most people. We also can't forget the allure of cosmetic sets in Heritage armour.

    I am also willing to argue that certain allied races (like the Ren'dorei or the Dark Iron Dwarves, which originally were meant to come with the launch of BfA) had comparable or even more hype to them than DHs. People have wanted Alliance Thalassian Elves and Villainous Dwarves as playable races for many years.

    I would say that Allied races had far greater impact on the sales of their expansion than DHs for Legion.
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  6. #25206
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    On one hand you didn't have to do anything to unlock DHs, while allied races (Ren'dorei included) required you to complete certain story questlines and grind reputation with some Legion factions. On the other hand, the Ren'dorei (and other allied races) have multiple class choices, which means they offer a more varied game experience by default, while the DHs are just one class. They also had more unique and elaborate kinds of racial abilities that certainly intruiged most people. We also can't forget the allure of cosmetic sets in Heritage armour.

    I am also willing to argue that certain allied races (like the Ren'dorei or the Dark Iron Dwarves, which originally were meant to come with the launch of BfA) had comparable or even more hype to them than DHs. People have wanted Alliance Thalassian Elves and Villainous Dwarves as playable races for many years.

    I would say that Allied races had far greater impact on the sales of their expansion than DHs for Legion.
    I would have to agree given how ARs gave players 4 characters they needed to level to max to gain the full rewards (or 2 if you just play one faction), whereas DHs started at 2 level below the WoD maximum.
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  7. #25207
    Quote Originally Posted by draugril View Post
    Did I miss anything interesting in the past hundred pages or so? Any lingering mysteries or credible rumours? I don’t want to sift through all the back-and-forth I saw going on when I clicked back a few pages…
    No, you didn’t. This thread has been going back and forth with the exact same arguments and topics in the last days that were discussed months ago. The only thing that might have happened is the release of a new PTR version for WoW which points to a new release being tested in the future (not related to Shadowlands).
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  8. #25208
    So, as far as I can tell, these are our choices...

    Dragon-focused Dragon Isles expansion with Tinkers
    Void-focused K'aresh space expansion with Tinkers.
    Life-focused expansion where we visit the other Zereths. With Tinkers.
    Emerald Dream expansion finally happening. With Tinkers.
    Azeroth world revamp electric boogaloo 2.0 with Tinkers.
    Lightbound invasion expansion with Tinkers.
    Some time travel expansion out of nowhere. With Tinkers.

    That about sums it up?

  9. #25209
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    So, as far as I can tell, these are our choices...

    Dragon-focused Dragon Isles expansion with Tinkers
    Void-focused K'aresh space expansion with Tinkers.
    Life-focused expansion where we visit the other Zereths. With Tinkers.
    Emerald Dream expansion finally happening. With Tinkers.
    Azeroth world revamp electric boogaloo 2.0 with Tinkers.
    Lightbound invasion expansion with Tinkers.
    Some time travel expansion out of nowhere. With Tinkers.

    That about sums it up?
    I like your themes. Definitely not Tinker for all though. Hehe

  10. #25210
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    So, as far as I can tell, these are our choices...

    Dragon-focused Dragon Isles expansion with Tinkers
    Void-focused K'aresh space expansion with Tinkers.
    Life-focused expansion where we visit the other Zereths. With Tinkers.
    Emerald Dream expansion finally happening. With Tinkers.
    Azeroth world revamp electric boogaloo 2.0 with Tinkers.
    Lightbound invasion expansion with Tinkers.
    Some time travel expansion out of nowhere. With Tinkers.

    That about sums it up?
    Ye, but we are probably gonna end up getting the LightLands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    So, as far as I can tell, these are our choices...

    Dragon-focused Dragon Isles expansion with Tinkers
    Void-focused K'aresh space expansion with Tinkers.
    Life-focused expansion where we visit the other Zereths. With Tinkers.
    Emerald Dream expansion finally happening. With Tinkers.
    Azeroth world revamp electric boogaloo 2.0 with Tinkers.
    Lightbound invasion expansion with Tinkers.
    Some time travel expansion out of nowhere. With Tinkers.

    That about sums it up?
    Life focused expansion with Dragons.




  12. #25212
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    So, as far as I can tell, these are our choices...

    Dragon-focused Dragon Isles expansion with Tinkers
    Void-focused K'aresh space expansion with Tinkers.
    Life-focused expansion where we visit the other Zereths. With Tinkers.
    Emerald Dream expansion finally happening. With Tinkers.
    Azeroth world revamp electric boogaloo 2.0 with Tinkers.
    Lightbound invasion expansion with Tinkers.
    Some time travel expansion out of nowhere. With Tinkers.

    That about sums it up?
    Christ if this is the way it goes I am definitely out. How depressing is the lineup.

  13. #25213
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrexia View Post
    Christ if this is the way it goes I am definitely out. How depressing is the lineup.
    Do you seriously complain about made up ideas for next expansion?

  14. #25214
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    So, as far as I can tell, these are our choices...

    Dragon-focused Dragon Isles expansion with Tinkers
    Void-focused K'aresh space expansion with Tinkers.
    Life-focused expansion where we visit the other Zereths. With Tinkers.
    Emerald Dream expansion finally happening. With Tinkers.
    Azeroth world revamp electric boogaloo 2.0 with Tinkers.
    Lightbound invasion expansion with Tinkers.
    Some time travel expansion out of nowhere. With Tinkers.

    That about sums it up?
    You're missing Tinker-focused Undermine expansion with Dark Rangers, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrexia View Post
    Christ if this is the way it goes I am definitely out. How depressing is the lineup.
    What's your alternative?

  15. #25215
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    What's your alternative?
    Not him obviously but I'll chime in with my extra zany alternative that I actually would enjoy:
    A time travel expansion where our characters, and a sizable chunk of the Horde & Alliance were dropped in the era of pre-sundering Azeroth during the time where the Watchers were active, the Kaldorei empire was in full-swing as well as the Troll Empires. Chronicles really spoiled me with reading about this era.


  16. #25216
    Point is, these are just vague ideas, they could be both interesting or boring. You can bet that if it's Emerald Dream or Karesh it won't be what we imagine, it will be what we imagine in 1 zone + 3/4/5 more zones with new lore.

    And I know people always shit on current content, but zones/instances are never weak point of WoW, usually reward system is.

  17. #25217
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Do you seriously complain about made up ideas for next expansion?
    Yes Because they're bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post



    What's your alternative?
    The Dragons im all for or a world revamp, probably no damned Tinkers, We need New specs for current classes or complete class overhauls are needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    Not him obviously but I'll chime in with my extra zany alternative that I actually would enjoy:
    A time travel expansion where our characters, and a sizable chunk of the Horde & Alliance were dropped in the era of pre-sundering Azeroth during the time where the Watchers were active, the Kaldorei empire was in full-swing as well as the Troll Empires. Chronicles really spoiled me with reading about this era.

    Not a him but I like your ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    So, as far as I can tell, these are our choices...

    Dragon-focused Dragon Isles expansion with Tinkers
    Void-focused K'aresh space expansion with Tinkers.
    Life-focused expansion where we visit the other Zereths. With Tinkers.
    Emerald Dream expansion finally happening. With Tinkers.
    Azeroth world revamp electric boogaloo 2.0 with Tinkers.
    Lightbound invasion expansion with Tinkers.
    Some time travel expansion out of nowhere. With Tinkers.

    That about sums it up?

    A Tinker-focused Tinker Isles expansion with Tinkers
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  19. #25219
    Quote Originally Posted by Tartys View Post
    A Tinker-focused Tinker Isles expansion with Tinkers
    No, that's the one that doesn't come with Tinkers. And every NPC is constantly going "...something's missing..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tartys View Post
    A Tinker-focused Tinker Isles expansion with Tinkers
    I think you forgot to mention tinkers?

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