Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ersula]

No Blizzcon when they needed one. Next one was 6 months after patch.

And no, they can't really choose any date they want to match patch releases after whole thing is set in motion. They rent this place you know. People buy tickets months in advance. Finally, WoW is not their only game.

wtf are you talking about. Blizzcon 2015 was 2 months after the Legion reveal at Gamescom 2015. And Convention centers aren't booked constantly: They're usually empty 3 weeks out of every month. That's why Blizzard usually always gets a november date: because they choose it, not because its "all they could get"

You're making a bad assumption that they're somehow "reluctant" to announce stuff at Blizzcon. As seen with Gamescom, they don't even need to reveal a game there.

[Jekyll]

The amount of copium needed to think 9.2 is hyped compared to other patches has reached new levels.

SL really had given us nothing. BFA at least gave us Allied Races that we could look forward to. If Blizz gave us at least an Allied Race for each faction, people would be excited for 9.2 instead of just wanting it to end.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

There is no copium here.

[Dracullus]

wtf are you talking about. Blizzcon 2015 was less than a month after the Legion reveal at Gamescom 2015.

Ok, now I understand people who doesn't want reply to you.

The amount of copium needed to think 9.2 is hyped compared to other patches has reached new levels.

Copium? That's so 2021 man.

[Makabreska]

The amount of copium needed to think 9.2 is hyped compared to other patches has reached new levels.

The amount of people trying to convince us 9.2 is not hyped has also reached new levels.

[huth]

Oh come on, those are clearly not written by Blizzard.

[Ersula]

Using "World of Warcraft" and comparing 30 days before launch day

I agree with you about 9.2 being anti-hype, but I'm pretty sure the drop you're depicting is just because it takes a couple days for google analytics to acquire data: You can't use it in real time.

[Varodoc]

I'm not implying he would be good, I'm saying him going rogue from the void lords so that he can do his own thing would be kind of neat. Where he wants to rule Azeroth and shit instead of turning her over to his masters or something. Nothing we would ever support but having to work with him in some capacity because he has the most knowledge of the void and we are desperate in that moment could be interesting. Do we doom ourselves worse by reluctantly trusting him even for a moment to aid us? Or would we be better off facing the void lords on our own? Who knows.

It is implied that he was trying to turn Azeroth into the Void Titan in 8.3:

Stage Three: Forge of Fate:
As N'Zoth the Corruptor's tentacles tighten on the Chamber of Heart, Magni and MOTHER begin unleashing the fury of the Forge of Origination to put an end to the Corruptor's plans.
Or, so they hope.

In the Mythic phase, we see how exactly the Old Gods turn the Titan into a Void creature and it seems that they just tighten their tentacles around the Titan's fetus/Titan's heart.

It seems that N'Zoth followed the directive of the Void Lords, to corrupt a Titan (which is the purpose behind the Old Gods' creation); but, at the same time, N'Zoth also wanted to restore his empire and offered Azshara a place in his quest to restore the empire.

Maybe turning a Titan into a Void creature doesn't instantly just obliterate the planet? It seems that N'Zoth wanted to do that but also keep ruling the Black Empire. Implying that there could still be an Empire even if the Titan wakes up and becomes enslaved to the Void.

Also remember the Visions of N'Zoth; they depict a scenario in which the Old God is victorious and, thus, we can assume that he succeeded in corrupting the Titan. But, at the same time, Stormwind and Orgrimmar still exist in those realms, they are still inhabited by people, and ruled by Alleria and Thrall respectively. They rule in N'Zoth's stead. So creating the Void Titan (from corrupting the Titan fetus) doesn't necessarily annihilate everything on the planet.

[ro9ue]

Don't really care about 9.2, other than it's probably holding back a 10.0 announcement.

[Dracullus]

As always people see only black and white. Even without solid data you can tell it's not very hyped patch, many factors contributed to that and I don't think 9.2 design is even one of them. But some people try to claim that hype is so low that Blizzard should ignore their own patch and go straight to 10.0 reveal, which is equally ridicolous.

[Dragon ANX]

I agree with you about 9.2 being anti-hype, but I'm pretty sure the drop you're depicting is just because it takes a couple days for google analytics to acquire data: You can't use it in real time.

Yep, but the days before are low in comparisson, people think that me and others are saying "THERE IS NO HYPE", but thats not what i'm saying, what i'm saying is that 9.2 is less hyped compared to past final patches of xpacs.

[Ersula]

It is implied that he was trying to turn Azeroth into the Void Titan in 8.3:
In the Mythic phase, we see how exactly the Old Gods turn the Titan into a Void creature and it seems that they just tighten their tentacles around the Titan's fetus/Titan's heart.

Or just parasitically feed off of her anima. (Yes they referenced anima repeatedly in 8.3) We don't see anything that conclusively suggests he was trying to turn her into a "Void Titan" (whatever tf that is) rather than, just killing her. He exclusively sends "Annihilators" into the heart of Azeroth, not "Assimilators"

Also a big reminder: The Old Gods use shadow & void for power. But the Old Gods & The Void Lords are not aligned: Their interests are not the same.

[Varodoc]

Yep, but the days before are low in comparisson, people think that me and others are saying "THERE IS NO HYPE", but thats not what i'm saying, what i'm saying is that 9.2 is less hyped compared to past final patches of xpacs.

How can anyone be surprised by this? Literally compare the Janitor to other final expansion villains like Arthas, Sargeras, Gul'dan, and N'Zoth, there is literally no comparison. The Janitor is a nobody and so the patch about the nobody is less hyped than, say, a patch about Sargeras.

[Makorus]

Or just parasitically feed off of her anima. (Yes they referenced anima repeatedly in 8.3) We don't see anything that conclusively suggests he was trying to turn her into a "Void Titan" (whatever tf that is) rather than, just killing her. He exclusively sends "Annihilators" into the heart of Azeroth, not "Assimilators"

Also a big reminder: The Old Gods use shadow & void for power. But the Old Gods & The Void Lords are not aligned: Their interests are not the same.

Anima from 8.3 (and the one from Throne of Thunder) is something completely different.

[Ersula]

Anima from 8.3 (and the one from Throne of Thunder) is something completely different.

Anima is Anima. They started developing Shadowlands *before* 8.3: The reference was deliberate forshadowing. Necromancy, Blood Magic & Vampirism on azeroth isn't natural but it shows its definitely possible for people on the mortal plane to access those energies.

[Ansi]

I understand why people think there is some massive spoiler at the end of the Jailer fight, and that could be true, but more likely the reason for the tapered bosses is just that they wrote a whole storyline quest for between Anduin getting rescued & fighting the Jailer. In fact we've already datamined that there is: And that wouldn't make sense with everyone killing the Jailer minutes after rescuing him.

And it will also prolong the world first race, accumulating massive numbers on Twitch.

Hype is a strategy.

[Shadochi]

Using google search trends doesn't seem too valid, as time goes on more player wont use generic search terms like "wow x.x" but instead specific stuff.
Also Legion (7.3 preview at gamescon days before patch came out) and BfA (Blizzcon before the patch came) had events beforehand that increased even the generic searches because people would watch the show and then google it.

Alternatively another not so valid but interesting comparison could be Views and View Per Like on the 9.2 videos on the official WoW channel compared to the Classic (TBC and SOM) videos where SL stuff gets more views and more likes

[Archmage Xaxxas]

Yea not sure how the name of this BfA Essence is arguable as a reference to Shadowlands Anima:

https://www.wowhead.com/azerite-esse...e-and-death-24

[huth]

Anima is Anima. They started developing Shadowlands *before* 8.3: The reference was deliberate forshadowing. Necromancy, Blood Magic & Vampirism on azeroth isn't natural but it shows its definitely possible for people on the mortal plane to access those energies.

Actually, no. Blizzard explicitly noted that the Shadowlands Anima has nothing to do with what the Titans call Anima.

[Makorus]

Anima is Anima. They started developing Shadowlands *before* 8.3: The reference was deliberate forshadowing. Necromancy, Blood Magic & Vampirism on azeroth isn't natural but it shows its definitely possible for people on the mortal plane to access those energies.

No.

Anima in MoP is different from Anima in SL.

There's no point arguing.


They literally said this exact same thing in an interview.

Despite its name, the substance handled by the Mogu in Pandaria is different from the anima found in Shadowland. The soul that feeds the realms of the afterlife comes only from mortal souls.