Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Sondrelk]

While I have not had the time to really sit down and enjoy Zereth Mortis yet, i do have to say it does feel leaps and bounds better than Korthia in terms of being a zone I want to spend time in.

It has for me underlined how much I really don't care about Shadowlands. Because this area is practically screaming at me to be impressed by how it captures the idea of a world in artificial development. And yet despite this, and how much I can tell it goes hard on a unified theme, I just cannot get past how little Shadowlands has grabbed me, which in turn reflects poorly on this zone.

I see the pools stretching down into the abyss, filled with half formed creatures and those strange orbs. But instead of feeling like I am uncovering a mystery, I just sit and feel like I would have cared so much more if I was invested in the overarching theme.


Really excited to see the Pocopoc stuff though. Didnt spoil it too much for myself this PTR cycle, but from what I saw it looks like a great step forward in open world content progression. The gear set with additional abilities is s nice touch, if probably a bit difficult to justify when it has to compete with raid sets, and for that matter flying once that becomes available...

[TriHard]

To be fair, those streamers are all on Amazon's payroll right now. The smaller streamers still play 9.2.

I mean, they are Twitch streamers and Twitch is owned by Amazon, so they've kinda always been, lmao.

[Santandame]

As someone who has been very critical of Shadowlands and unsubbed since the start of the expansion - Zereth Mortis is a fantastic zone. Really have to give credit where its due. Its expansive, beautiful and exciting. I actually feel excited to login again tomorrow and explore the zone more tomorrow after playing through it tonight.

The Cypher system seems interesting and is something I'm looking forward to sinking my teeth into.

More zones like this please Blizzard for future end game zones.

[Shadochi]

Same I figured Pocopoc would be cute enough but then just kinda set it and forget it but damn do I love that little bugger. The customization helps so much with making it feel like YOUR personal little robot buddy.

There is customization? O.o

[Ersula]

To be fair, those streamers are all on Amazon's payroll right now. The smaller streamers still play 9.2.

Yeah. I played Lost Ark. It's a mobile game at best. And it'll last exactly as long as Amazon's last mmo, New World

[TriHard]

Yeah. I played Lost Ark. It's a mobile game at best. And it'll last exactly as long as Amazon's last mmo, New World

Lost Ark is a fantastic MMO experience, it is certainly not "a mobile game at best"

And I'm pretty sure it'll be about as popular as BDO which is still a very populated MMO

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

9.2 looks dead on arrival. Not even the usual streamers who are all over new patch content care enough to switch over from Lost Ark.

Blizzard fucked up badly with SL.

Blizzard fucked up since BFA you mean. Nothing made sense since its little pre-story happened in 7.3 and 7.3.5+

[Shadochi]

Blizzard fucked up since BFA you mean. Nothing made sense since its little pre-story happened in 7.3 and 7.3.5+

That was Azerite for BfA, Faction tensions started in stormheim, Azshara in Azsuna and old gods throughout emerald nightmare and tomb of sargeras

[fazaim]

Blizzard fucked up since BFA you mean. Nothing made sense since its little pre-story happened in 7.3 and 7.3.5+

This. After having done a bit of Zereth Mortis today all I'm left with is this..: Give me a forest, big, with lots of dead space between the trees and an occasional fucking farm where ten cows and the farmer's been tied up by some Defias. Let me slay these Defias without being CC'd by quest giver for a silver spooned lore explanation. I slay them, then the farmer tells me thanks and that I look handy. He then tells me his grains have been going bad so I check them out. The traces go back to the river where there are a few murlocs I slay. I see the residue that contaminates his lands comes from the stream so I follow it upwards. This leads me into a darker part of the forest where traces leads me to a crazy local witch's hut. I go into her house which become caverns and slay minions and eventually her. I bring her head back to town and the policeman tells me there's no forces are being sent because of the Kingdoms fighting eachother therefore men are sent to war. Most of all, just give me a farm and ten cows and a problem. The story of 9.2 just cringes me, opening with playing guitarhero on a dragon followed up by 1:30 min CC as we've been mistaken for Mawsworn in ZM then some universal problem I'm not gonna get into.

[jeezusisacasual]

Perhaps another thing they could do is remaster a old dungeon per season, for instance .0 to .1 would be Grimrail Depot or any other to match the theme of that seasonal affix. We have easy transportation systems to previous dungeons so its not as if it would be a massive undertaking. Think of how Cata had remastered dungeons but in a mythic plus setting. Easy work since the art assets are already done and i sure a touch up to some of the gear to " entice " folks would not hurt either.

[JMitchy96]

I'm pretty sure a casual player wouldn't have had 5 hours to play all the quests.

This is a massive misconception of what a "casual" player actually is. Most casual players have plenty more than 5 hours to play the game - their issue lies in not being able to access the game due to real life most days. Once "casuals" get some time off from real life, most of them tend to get as many hours into the game as possible, definitely usually more than 5.

[Shadochi]

No cinematic yet?

First batch is with the raid release next week, and second batch in 2 weeks after jailer releases

[Makorus]

Yeah. I played Lost Ark. It's a mobile game at best. And it'll last exactly as long as Amazon's last mmo, New World

It's funny to see people fawning over Lost Ark when it is the definition of a systems game.

It's a bleh game that makes you feel good by making everything melt and then nickel and dimes you later on, just like most Asian F2P MMOs.

[Nyel]

The zone feels much better than Kortia and the rest.

Let's be honest, what kind of bar set Korthia and what was to expect after that? Comparing Korthia to a real zone is like comparing 6.1 to a real content patch.

[draugril]

Congrats to the thread on another meme number page milestone.

[micwini]

Congrats to the thread on another meme number age milestone.

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Man I can't believe how they spend so long on this patch and then having so little content.

[Dracullus]

If ZM had no flying, I would prefer Korthia. It's small, but everything is close, in ZM right now I don't even bother to farm rares after I got first 10 required for flying. Usually you have no chance to get to non elite rare.

Oh, but suprisingly they came out with even better casual gearing than Korthia. If only Cypher was account wide and reaching milestones would mean higher gear from quest on every char, it would be perfect.

[Sondrelk]

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Man I can't believe how they spend so long on this patch and then having so little content.

Define "so little content".

It's a large zone with 41 mounts, pets and miscellaneous rewards to gather, alongside an open world progression system that should subtly increase your abilities to experience the content over time.

And all this alongside a fairly chunky 11 boss raid.

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Anyone else annoyed we didn't get a mount using the wolf models? Probably my favourite new model, and despite wolves being a staple of the mount collection we didn't get any with this one.

[Lahis]

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Man I can't believe how they spend so long on this patch and then having so little content.

That is the Blizzard efficiency. Spend more on delivering less!

[Raetary]

Once past the initial wave of unlock and story quests, the daily content consits of drip fed 3 WQs at a time with just as many total quests to do per day.

Which wouldn't be an issue if the zone contained some form of frequently occuring world events or other engaging activities to keep you occupied, but it doesn't.
Occasionally you see a rare, or a special encounter (aka rare, but fancy) and that's it.

The rest of the content you do pretty much just conists of running around and looking for treasure.

I'm aware more content will unlock in the coming weeks with campaign quests and Cypher unlocks, but quite honestly the zone should've a strong amount of baseline content to do and not require us to wait ages for that content to appear.

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Anyone else annoyed we didn't get a mount using the wolf models? Probably my favourite new model, and despite wolves being a staple of the mount collection we didn't get any with this one.

There is a lupine mount, you craft it from the mount crafting system.
You can unlock it by completing the dealic cypher traits.