Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Revamp Man]

Then you don't know. Start using google when want argue about facts you are not sure about.

And it's not like only US companies cared about it. For example CDPR delayed their Cyberpunk event as well.

Oh it was a livestream
That was retarded

[Teriz]

don't set yourself for disappointment, 10.0 will be another bfa-shadowlands with a make-up of dragons.

Best thing to do is hoping for nothing, cause even when you expect the worse they surprise you with something even worse.

I think BFA was okay. I think the big issue with Shadowlands is that the concept was a bad idea, and getting two straight expansions of Sylvanas trying to be smarter than the writing would allow really sucked the air right out of things.

[Ersula]

This situation is entirely new so we can only speculate.

Okay then I'm going to say Ion is going to announce the expansion by crushing a baby bird in his bare hands. And that's equally credible to your hypothesis if we're just 'not allowed' to take previous PR patterns into consideration.

[huth]

MoP had
The farm
Scenarios
Simplified talent system
Legendary cloak
Account wide rep speed up

They didn’t try to reinvent the wheel
They didn’t put in half baked systems then finish them in the final patch

MoP with
M+
Emissaries
Mythic raids
BiS expansion

SoO was the first raid with a mythic mode. Though that's kinda meaningless, since they really just moved labels. The actual new mode was the one below Normal, then called Flex.

It also featured the predecessor to M+, Challenge Mode.

[Revamp Man]

SoO was the first raid with a mythic mode. Though that's kinda meaningless, since they really just moved labels. The actual new mode was the one below Normal, then called Flex.

It also featured the predecessor to M+, Challenge Mode.

Can you imagine the increase in participation if m+ was there instead?

[huth]

Can you imagine the increase in participation if m+ was there instead?

Probably little to none.

[KainneAbsolute]

Do you think Sylvanas book may have hints for the next expansion?

[Nyel]

Of course it won't affect development, but should be reason to delay event (if it would be today, in 3 weeks situation could be different... for better or worse). They already delayed Beta/SL endgame reveal in June 2020 over riots in USA. Europe is as important part of Blizzard playerbase as US.

Europe is barely affected. It's Ukraine and Russia. And I say that as a European. There's no point in delaying it, but I won't mind if they delay it either. Europe can get more involved as the conflict unfurls, but then it would be wiser to rush the announcement than to delay it.

By the way, Pokémon just announced their brand new games yesterday, so I don't see why they wouldn't announce the next expansion due to this.

Keep politics out of entertainment products, thank you.
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What we have to consider is... 9.2.5 news. Maybe they come before 10.0 news? Or both at the same time? I mean that patch is lingering around now as well and it might affect the announcement of 10.0.

[huth]

Europe is barely affected. It's Ukraine and Russia. And I say that as a European. There's no point in delaying it, but I won't mind if they delay it either. Europe can get more involved as the conflict unfurls, but then it would be wiser to rush the announcement than to delay it.

Sure, if we ignore it completely dominating the news currently. And all politicians being constantly involved. And the fact that the Ukraine is part of Europe.

[Nyel]

Sure, if we ignore it completely dominating the news currently. And all politicians being constantly involved. And the fact that the Ukraine is part of Europe.

Politicians tend to be everywhere because that's their job. There's always conflict and strife somewhere: refugee crisis between 2015 - 2017 where the entirety of Europe was and still is affected (and was way more impacted overall and entertainment products weren't delayed at all), COVID etc. - it's pretty pointless to use these things as reasons to not-announce a new expansion. All of this - as long as it doesn't directly interact and affect production and development - has nothing to do with entertainment products. It's dominating political news. It doesn't have any major effect on entertainment news as that's something completely different.

[Hitei]

MoP had
Scenarios

They didn’t put in half baked systems then finish them in the final patch

Is this sarcasm?

[Shinrael]

Based on observing the history of Blizzard announcements & development, which is better than nothing, which is what your prediction is based on.

But you just said that this is the first time Blizzard is announcing an expansion like this? The livestreams were always for patches only. From what I remember they usually announce the livestream a few days in advance and have the livestream on Thursday/Friday. That is what I based my prediction on. And you told me that that's what they do for patches, but this is an expansion so it won't be the same. And then you tell me that you based your prediction on history.... which does not exist because this is a first time? I am confused

Did you really reply to the exact same post twice?

To answer your questions:


You made it sound like they would 'just' reveal it without an announcement beforehand.

Either way, immediately the few days after the cinematic comes out is too soon.
Since Blizzard is waiting for the story to end first, its safe to say they want to give people more than just 2 days time to catch up on and digest it.


I said 1-2 weeks.
Which is pretty standard for bigger announcements, or even longer.

Also, this isn't a patch its an expansion - The thing that fills up Blizzards pockets.
They have to make a notice beforehand so they gain media traction and player attention for more engagement.
Blizzard can't just randomly pop up a reveal stream whenever.

Didn't realize it was the same post. I noticed I had a few notifications from quotes and just quoted and replied to them all

Alright, fair enough. At this point there isn't much other data so I can only hope you're wrong, because I am super excited and want to know as soon as possible.

[Dracullus]

Europe is barely affected. It's Ukraine and Russia. And I say that as a European. There's no point in delaying it, but I won't mind if they delay it either. Europe can get more involved as the conflict unfurls, but then it would be wiser to rush the announcement than to delay it.

People go to mass protests. Organize help or donate money. Press their goverments - with success. Finally people follow this stuff and talk about it all the time. Decent people in Europe are affected, Nyel. If you are not one of these people, I don't know what to say to you.

And as I said, 2 years ago Blizz delayed event over "political" stuff and Europe followed. Now, ekhem, "political stuff" are much more serious.

[Raetary]

Considering the pace at which this war is going, an end-of-march announcement wouldn't really need a delay.

[micwini]

Here's hoping for some MoP-level features in 10.0.

We don´t need another useless feature like pet battles.

[Yossarian]

We don´t need another useless feature like pet battles.

your opinion

this game needs some new addition, pet battles were great (and completely optional)

[Nyel]

People go to mass protests. Organize help or donate money. Press their goverments - with success. Finally people follow this stuff and talk about it all the time. Decent people in Europe are affected, Nyel. If you are not one of these people, I don't know what to say to you.

And as I said, 2 years ago Blizz delayed event over "political" stuff and Europe followed. Now, ekhem, "political stuff" are much more serious.

And as I said, other entertainment products don't just stop because of that. I'm not saying that people are completely oblivious, but the entertainment industry has nothing to do with this and does not need to follow this pattern. Not saying it's not happening, but it wouldn't make any sense to delay an announcement.

Regarding this conflict it's the exact opposite, rushing it would make more sense now as the situation will only get worse from this point on and that would delay a possible announcement even further.

As mentioned: The biggest franchise in the world nonchalantly announced their new games yesterday and so should Blizzard. Keep politics and entertainment separate, those two things don't go well together (the only exception: international events where teams represent their own country, e.g. why sports is affected by this).

And do not confuse people not caring with people wanting to have other stuff to distract from this conflict. Just because you don't want this conflict to be omnipresent and overshadow everything doesn't mean you don't care about the situation.

[micwini]

your opinion

this game needs some new addition, pet battles were great (and completely optional)

They are optional yes. The problem is in the amount of time spent making it vs the amount of people actively participating in it. It achieves little more than wasting resources.

[Lady Atia]

They are optional yes. The problem is in the amount of time spent making it vs the amount of people actively participating in it. It achieves little more than wasting resources.

Than mythic raiding and +20 keys are a waste of ressources (and btw, I'm doing both regulary). You are aware that the amount of people who do everything is actually quite low? Pet Battles is one of the best features the game has ever got, we need more casual stuff like it that breaks out of the "get gear/borrowed power for powerplay treadmill". WoW is supposed to be an RPG - not some esports game, even if some people want that ...

So yes, something casual that's disconnected from power gains like f.e. housing would do wonders to the game. If you don't like it, don't play it.

[Varodoc]

Not announcing the expansion because there is a war going on is retarded, since it implies that there was a point in time when there were no wars. Blizzard will announce 10.0 as in accordance with whatever plans they made.

Virtue-signaling at its finest, just because there is a war going on doesn't mean we shouldn't have fun anymore, fun like watching a trailer for a new expansion.