Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Aeluron Lightsong]

!!! Indeed. I was a bit flabberghasted that this patch didn't have a similar trailer involving Zovaal in a dialogue to Anduin as we see Kil'jaeden and Sargeras here.

Or at least a flashback to Zovaal's time as Arbiter and imprisonment/betrayal from the Pantheon of Death.


It would have set the mood of us eagerly going to the raid, freeing Anduin and stopping him the same way 7.2's trailer did. (Even hypes 7.3 because of Sargeras.)

Kil'Jaeden wasn't even shown in 7.2 content until the raid. The "questlines" in the Broken Shore patch really wasn't that great.

[Lahis]

Interestingly If I haven't mistaken, that is also the direction Taz'avesh is (between revendreth and ardenweald).

Still thinking we were supposed to get "Now for something slightly different" 9.2 patch where we go to the Broker home realm (thus in the direction of Taz'avesh) to dig through some Cartel Al vault to get the needed relics to go into Zereth Mortis in 9.3, given that Cartel Al is the only entity that was able to do so until we Mary Sued our way there.

[Nyel]

The difference with the short 8 days notice from the Gamescom announcement to the Legion announcement is that we basically knew about Blizzard‘s presence at Gamescom. What we did not know was that WoD was so pitiful and peak flop that they needed to rush the Legion announcement from November to August. It‘s hard to extrapolate this situation and try to reconstruct it now for the upcoming expac.

[Shadochi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtWdYkJbdE

I miss these kind of videos

Huh? Isn't that basically the 7.2 intro cinematic? It wasn't a trailer specifically made for YT

[Vakir]

It was both. It was repurposed as the trailer. Most things post-5.4 were.

[Shadochi]

Kil'Jaeden wasn't even shown in 7.2 content until the raid. The "questlines" in the Broken Shore patch really wasn't that great.

Was there any story to the Broken Shore campaign other than the initial intro in 7.2 and the chapter that was different for each class for mounts (and even that didn't really have any story for some)

[shoc]

I am calling it now, placing my bet, Cosmic Dragon Civil War expansion for 10.x

Dragon Isles, the Cosmic Powers make a move on the Dragon Isles. The Void takes over the Black Dragonflight, Life/Elune easily takes the Green, The Titans/Order takes the Blue, Naaru/Light takes the Red, Disorder (Murozond) takes the Bronze (origin of the Infinite Flight), leaving out Death because the Shadowlands are saved.

Could be the next Covenants.

[Nyel]

I am calling it now, placing my bet, Cosmic Dragon Civil War expansion for 10.x

Dragon Isles, the Cosmic Powers make a move on the Dragon Isles. The Void takes over the Black Dragonflight, Life/Elune easily takes the Green, The Titans/Order takes the Blue, Naaru/Light takes the Red, Disorder (Murozond) takes the Bronze (origin of the Infinite Flight), leaving out Death because the Shadowlands are saved.

Could be the next Covenants.

Besides this being a hodgepodge of everything it doesn’t sound too bad.

[Hitei]

Scenarios were the same from beginning to end except they added a difficulty and valor

They weren't. The system was awful at the start and missing basic features like the ability to vote kick and deserter, which meant that people could and frequently did just join and then AFK for a free carry with zero consequence at all. The added difficulty was an attempt to salvage a half-assed system, much like warfronts, but like warfronts it did little to help. The system was such an immediate and total failure that by 5.2 they had pivoted to focusing on its use as a single player story telling option and they were utterly abandoned in 5.3 and 5.4.

[Revamp Man]

They weren't. The system was awful at the start and missing basic features like the ability to vote kick and deserter, which meant that people could and frequently did just join and then AFK for a free carry with zero consequence at all. The added difficulty was an attempt to salvage a half-assed system, much like warfronts, but like warfronts it did little to help. The system was such an immediate and total failure that by 5.2 they had pivoted to focusing on its use as a single player story telling option and they were utterly abandoned in 5.3 and 5.4.

Maybe we just see things as different because personally I don’t see a vote to kick change as anything beyond a QoL change

The gear rewards weren’t any good and I think valor was only a once a week reward until 5.4 where it became the best way to cap and outside of timeless gear was the best way to gear alts because of the heroic difficulty

I think they added some scenarios through the patches so I wouldn’t say they were abandoned


I also can’t say I ran into issues with afk players because for a while they actually required effort but I was also in a guild so 90% of the time I didn’t pug and by the end you could just go into Blood in the Snow and have each player solo a mini boss

[Lady Atia]

I am calling it now, placing my bet, Cosmic Dragon Civil War expansion for 10.x

Dragon Isles, the Cosmic Powers make a move on the Dragon Isles. The Void takes over the Black Dragonflight, Life/Elune easily takes the Green, The Titans/Order takes the Blue, Naaru/Light takes the Red, Disorder (Murozond) takes the Bronze (origin of the Infinite Flight), leaving out Death because the Shadowlands are saved.

Could be the next Covenants.

The Red Dragons are literally representing life though, while the Infinite Flight are agents of the Void/Old Gods.

[Yossarian]

if the expansion is ready to be announced, and it's very likely to be (not certain, I know, but likely) and they just waited for 9.2 to ship, I believe we can expect the announcement of the announcement this week, next one to the latest
8 days was a short window but they were tied to Gamescon schedules, now they can do however they want to

[Lahis]

if the expansion is ready to be announced, and it's very likely to be (not certain, I know, but likely) and they just waited for 9.2 to ship, I believe we can expect the announcement of the announcement this week, next one to the latest
8 days was a short window but they were tied to Gamescon schedules, now they can do however they want to

Why do they need announce the announcement?

Just drop the expansion trailer and press kit. Maybe give journoa some warning ao they can be copypasting the text instanrly, but there is no need for public to be informed about any planned announcements.

[Ersula]

Why do they need announce the announcement?

Just drop the expansion trailer and press kit. Maybe give journoa some warning ao they can be copypasting the text instanrly, but there is no need for public to be informed about any planned announcements.

This is true. But if they wanted to do it with little fanfaire, they would have already. They've waited so long they're clearly waiting for after the Sepulcher conclusion cinematic, it must be because they don't want to spoil it. Either they'll show it the day after the second part of the raid opens, or they really are intending on dropping the announcement & beginning the alpha on the same day. I mean that would be a pretty hype stunt: Showing the cinematic, then letting the content creators test it out right after.

[Lady Atia]

This is true. But if they wanted to do it with little fanfaire, they would have already. They've waited so long they're clearly waiting for after the Sepulcher conclusion cinematic, it must be because they don't want to spoil it. Either they'll show it the day after the second part of the raid opens, or they really are intending on dropping the announcement & beginning the alpha on the same day. I mean that would be a pretty hype stunt: Showing the cinematic, then letting the content creators test it out right after.

I'm 100% sure they will do an alpha on the same day as the announcement. Iirc they already did that for BfA's last patch and it was super balls back than. Maybe they could even do something like the Diablo Pass during MoP and basically give away alpha/beta for a 12 month sub alongside a new mount to hype it up even more?

[Alanar]

Wasn't that build dead by then? I was playing Shadow Priest Clarity of Power in Blackrock, also an experimental build.

That was like the best talent for most of wod, hardly experimental. Few patches changed it, but for the most time clarity was bis.

Clarity shadow was fun imo, but many didnt like the shadowmage.

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There's a portal, covenant or flightmaster at every pillar in the Ring of Transference--except this one.

It could be a missing patch.

Could be that they had more planned and maybe even had the idea to make that broker town available as quest zone or what ever. The area is just a dungeon altho it sure looks like more was plannend.

[Nyel]

Why do they need announce the announcement?

Just drop the expansion trailer and press kit. Maybe give journoa some warning ao they can be copypasting the text instanrly, but there is no need for public to be informed about any planned announcements.

Because randomly dropping the announcement wouldn't make any sense? Heck, they're giving us dates for patch announcements so I am certain they will give us a major timespan to "prepare" for the announcement.

[Santandame]

Odds on Preach not getting an alpha invite due to his very public announcement that he will no longer continue to cover World of Warcraft; then getting offended over not getting an invite?

Only mentioning this due to several posts above commenting on content creators testing the alpha.

[Revamp Man]

Odds on Preach not getting an alpha invite due to his very public announcement that he will no longer continue to cover World of Warcraft; then getting offended over not getting an invite?

Only mentioning this due to several posts above commenting on content creators testing the alpha.

I don’t think he’ll complain about it
I mean he is a bit cunty in his personal life but he’s pretty professional when it comes to his business.

A lot of content creators are just done with WoW. I was surprised when Kaif quit back during the Hong Kong stuff.

[Landrisser]

Odds on Preach not getting an alpha invite due to his very public announcement that he will no longer continue to cover World of Warcraft; then getting offended over not getting an invite?

Only mentioning this due to several posts above commenting on content creators testing the alpha.

I’m not familiar with that streamer, but did he say he’d stop covering WoW forever? Because it is perfectly reasonable to not waste your time streaming an expansion as low quality as Shadowlands. Makes sense to stream much better games to your fans and then come back around to WoW when the devs release an expansion worth playing again.