Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Sondrelk]

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/...0fP8AA2-mUNl9w GET HYPE!

Sure?..

I guess it's interesting to see, buy really it just makes me wish the old trailer that combined a lore cutscene with snippets like this from the new raid. The ones from MoP were absolute standouts in this regard.

In comparison this feels like it was made out of obligation. I don't really get the feeling that anyone had a strong vision for what this trailer should show.

[Ansi]

There's a portal, covenant or flightmaster at every pillar in the Ring of Transference--except this one.

It could be a missing patch.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Sure?..

I guess it's interesting to see, buy really it just makes me wish the old trailer that combined a lore cutscene with snippets like this from the new raid. The ones from MoP were absolute standouts in this regard.

In comparison this feels like it was made out of obligation. I don't really get the feeling that anyone had a strong vision for what this trailer should show.

Thats not the patch trailer, its just a video for the raid, not meant to be the grandiose patch trailer we all wanted.

[Lamoth]

Oh it could be - you know - just a natural consequence of octogonal design of Oribos? Now if number of gates would not fit into base geometry then there would be something to speculate on.

[Shadochi]

There's a portal, covenant or flightmaster at every pillar in the Ring of Transference--except this one.

It could be a missing patch.

Interestingly If I haven't mistaken, that is also the direction Taz'avesh is (between revendreth and ardenweald).

[Sondrelk]

Thats not the patch trailer, its just a video for the raid, not meant to be the grandiose patch trailer we all wanted.

I know, which is what makes this even more mystifying to me.
There doesn't seem to be much of a flow to what we are seeing except trying to cram in all 11 bosses. This honestly feels more like a random assemblage of snippets that were meant to be used in a proper trailer, but which instead is now just thrown out into the world.

It's better than nothing for sure, but it still makes me question why it needs to exist.

[Valysar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtWdYkJbdE

I miss these kind of videos

[Archmage Xaxxas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtWdYkJbdE

I miss these kind of videos

!!! Indeed. I was a bit flabberghasted that this patch didn't have a similar trailer involving Zovaal in a dialogue to Anduin as we see Kil'jaeden and Sargeras here.

Or at least a flashback to Zovaal's time as Arbiter and imprisonment/betrayal from the Pantheon of Death.


It would have set the mood of us eagerly going to the raid, freeing Anduin and stopping him the same way 7.2's trailer did. (Even hypes 7.3 because of Sargeras.)

[Aeluron Lightsong]

!!! Indeed. I was a bit flabberghasted that this patch didn't have a similar trailer involving Zovaal in a dialogue to Anduin as we see Kil'jaeden and Sargeras here.

Or at least a flashback to Zovaal's time as Arbiter and imprisonment/betrayal from the Pantheon of Death.


It would have set the mood of us eagerly going to the raid, freeing Anduin and stopping him the same way 7.2's trailer did. (Even hypes 7.3 because of Sargeras.)

Kil'Jaeden wasn't even shown in 7.2 content until the raid. The "questlines" in the Broken Shore patch really wasn't that great.

[Lahis]

Interestingly If I haven't mistaken, that is also the direction Taz'avesh is (between revendreth and ardenweald).

Still thinking we were supposed to get "Now for something slightly different" 9.2 patch where we go to the Broker home realm (thus in the direction of Taz'avesh) to dig through some Cartel Al vault to get the needed relics to go into Zereth Mortis in 9.3, given that Cartel Al is the only entity that was able to do so until we Mary Sued our way there.

[Nyel]

The difference with the short 8 days notice from the Gamescom announcement to the Legion announcement is that we basically knew about Blizzard‘s presence at Gamescom. What we did not know was that WoD was so pitiful and peak flop that they needed to rush the Legion announcement from November to August. It‘s hard to extrapolate this situation and try to reconstruct it now for the upcoming expac.

[Shadochi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtWdYkJbdE

I miss these kind of videos

Huh? Isn't that basically the 7.2 intro cinematic? It wasn't a trailer specifically made for YT

[Vakir]

It was both. It was repurposed as the trailer. Most things post-5.4 were.

[Shadochi]

Kil'Jaeden wasn't even shown in 7.2 content until the raid. The "questlines" in the Broken Shore patch really wasn't that great.

Was there any story to the Broken Shore campaign other than the initial intro in 7.2 and the chapter that was different for each class for mounts (and even that didn't really have any story for some)

[shoc]

I am calling it now, placing my bet, Cosmic Dragon Civil War expansion for 10.x

Dragon Isles, the Cosmic Powers make a move on the Dragon Isles. The Void takes over the Black Dragonflight, Life/Elune easily takes the Green, The Titans/Order takes the Blue, Naaru/Light takes the Red, Disorder (Murozond) takes the Bronze (origin of the Infinite Flight), leaving out Death because the Shadowlands are saved.

Could be the next Covenants.

[Nyel]

I am calling it now, placing my bet, Cosmic Dragon Civil War expansion for 10.x

Dragon Isles, the Cosmic Powers make a move on the Dragon Isles. The Void takes over the Black Dragonflight, Life/Elune easily takes the Green, The Titans/Order takes the Blue, Naaru/Light takes the Red, Disorder (Murozond) takes the Bronze (origin of the Infinite Flight), leaving out Death because the Shadowlands are saved.

Could be the next Covenants.

Besides this being a hodgepodge of everything it doesn’t sound too bad.

[Hitei]

Scenarios were the same from beginning to end except they added a difficulty and valor

They weren't. The system was awful at the start and missing basic features like the ability to vote kick and deserter, which meant that people could and frequently did just join and then AFK for a free carry with zero consequence at all. The added difficulty was an attempt to salvage a half-assed system, much like warfronts, but like warfronts it did little to help. The system was such an immediate and total failure that by 5.2 they had pivoted to focusing on its use as a single player story telling option and they were utterly abandoned in 5.3 and 5.4.

[Revamp Man]

They weren't. The system was awful at the start and missing basic features like the ability to vote kick and deserter, which meant that people could and frequently did just join and then AFK for a free carry with zero consequence at all. The added difficulty was an attempt to salvage a half-assed system, much like warfronts, but like warfronts it did little to help. The system was such an immediate and total failure that by 5.2 they had pivoted to focusing on its use as a single player story telling option and they were utterly abandoned in 5.3 and 5.4.

Maybe we just see things as different because personally I don’t see a vote to kick change as anything beyond a QoL change

The gear rewards weren’t any good and I think valor was only a once a week reward until 5.4 where it became the best way to cap and outside of timeless gear was the best way to gear alts because of the heroic difficulty

I think they added some scenarios through the patches so I wouldn’t say they were abandoned


I also can’t say I ran into issues with afk players because for a while they actually required effort but I was also in a guild so 90% of the time I didn’t pug and by the end you could just go into Blood in the Snow and have each player solo a mini boss

[Lady Atia]

I am calling it now, placing my bet, Cosmic Dragon Civil War expansion for 10.x

Dragon Isles, the Cosmic Powers make a move on the Dragon Isles. The Void takes over the Black Dragonflight, Life/Elune easily takes the Green, The Titans/Order takes the Blue, Naaru/Light takes the Red, Disorder (Murozond) takes the Bronze (origin of the Infinite Flight), leaving out Death because the Shadowlands are saved.

Could be the next Covenants.

The Red Dragons are literally representing life though, while the Infinite Flight are agents of the Void/Old Gods.

[Yossarian]

if the expansion is ready to be announced, and it's very likely to be (not certain, I know, but likely) and they just waited for 9.2 to ship, I believe we can expect the announcement of the announcement this week, next one to the latest
8 days was a short window but they were tied to Gamescon schedules, now they can do however they want to