Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Lady Atia]

Oh my gosh that video was aweeeesome!

Also yep, Sylvanas is back and here to stay <3

[TheFirstOnes]

Wait...don't tell me they're gonna defeat the Jailer using the "power of friendship" alongside the player...

[guro-tchai]

The sneaky undertones of the whole "and be forgotten" speech...

huh. i'm feeling the same thing, but could you elaborate?

i wonder if she thinks that she herself should wane and be forgotten.

[Valysar]

We can see that the cinematics team is busy with 10.0...

[TheFirstOnes]

Well, there's the longer cinematic. Guess we have 3 more next week to watch, all shorter.

1 Minute for the final Zovaal cinematic, with a cutscene showing the Hero uniting the others to defeat him once and for all, and uhhh...idk about the 50 second one.

[Makabreska]

I mean, they didn't tarnish Arthas legacy, farewell to him was was well done and was climactic, and most importantly - Anduin snapped out of it himself and didn't need Sylvi to help him.

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How does she have the power to banish/disappear a soul?

She doesn't, soul just dissipated itself after leaving Anduin, dude.

[Raetary]

How does she have the power to banish/disappear a soul?

Everyone has that power, it's called "killing a soul in the shadowlands".

As for Arthas, that thing was a tiny mote of anima just dissipating while she was giving the speech.
She didn't do anything.

[McNeil]

Well, that was the long awaited return of Arthas... at least he can't be ruined any further. His death back in WotLK basically closed the chapter of Blizzard and WoW being good.

[Shadochi]

They did Jaina so dirty by only having Sylvanas interact with him and Jaina just there standing

[Vasoka]

As disappointing as expected, Arthas reduced to a floating blob rather than any relevant cameo. Vomit.

[BaumanKing]

Nah, Arthas will never be forgotten. No matter how hard you try, Steve.

[ChairmanKaga]

How does she have the power to banish/disappear a soul?

People project the most bizarre things.

[Grimbold21]

As suspected, the cinematic was meh.

I can't believe they didn't pull an "Illidan" with Arthas and use him in some amazing way for fan service.

Fanservice was his music.

[Makabreska]

She told it to be gone, and it magically disappeared the second she stopped talking.

Pay attention, her speech had nothing to do with it and was just a background to the remnants of his soul vanishing.

[Grimbold21]

huh. i'm feeling the same thing, but could you elaborate?

i wonder if she thinks that she herself should wane and be forgotten.

No, my remark wasn't about the actual lore implications, but that this speech can be interpreted as this new gen of lore devs/writers departing (or trying to) from the relics of the past.

[Shadochi]

As cheesy as it sounds, I would honestly prefer it if Jaina was the one to wave him off. Like, one final echo of the pure and uncorrupted Arthas floating before her before dissipating into "heaven" or whatever. Especially since it was the Jailer all along, Arthas doesn't deserve oblivion imo.

Honestly it would've made more sense for him to dissipate into the realm of SL where he belongs if it was Jaina saying goodbye to him, as a closing of their chapter and moving forward. I mean I have a feeling Sylvanas know about Arthas much more than vice-versa

[Khaza-R]

They did Jaina so dirty by only having Sylvanas interact with him and Jaina just there standing

I mean, it just underscores the issue with the story this expansion. It’s fan service to Sylvanas. And if your tired of the character already it’s tortorus to watch

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Sure. But fanservice that brings in the big bucks would be Arthas returning to usurp the Jailer or something. Enemy of my enemy is my friend, sort of deal.

And that would be a terrible plot in an already polarizing plot of an expansion.


I get that people who have severely disliked this expansion (and the last) due to the gameplay or the story (or both) hoping/wishing for something redeeming but adding an equally dumb plot to "fix it" does not end up fixing it.

[guro-tchai]

No, my remark wasn't about the actual lore implications, but that this speech can be interpreted as this new gen of lore devs/writers departing (or trying to) from the relics of the past.

yes, i didn't think you were talking about the lore in the first place. just want to make sure that i understood you correctly.

this arrogance of the collective danuser is almost funny. there's a trace of envy in there, which will never go away, hopefully.
what was the phrase which was spammed under the new amazon LOTR series trailer?

[Teriz]

I mean, it just underscores the issue with the story this expansion. It’s fan service to Sylvanas. And if your tired of the character already it’s tortorus to watch

It really is……