Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Syegfryed]

As for her next step, it's almost certainly going to be some sort of atonement for her sins. Beyond that...I'm personally predicting she gets put in the "later plot" box to be opened when Alleria goes crazy with void & needs her sisters to bring her back to reality.

We already know that she will be in the maw rescuing the people she dammed while searching for Danuser/Nathanos

They will act like this is "atonement" enough and call a day, a obnoxious ending for an obnoxious story.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

From launching whole campaign to stop Jailer to becoming his puppet. That just shows the level of logical thinking blizzard writers have.

I mean yah, that's the problem with Devos. There was a WHOLE arc for her that happened off-screen, for no reason at all.

[Polybius]

Im baffled that people think this cinematic was good.

Not that they liked, people have different tastes, but to think such bullshit was a good cinematic, a worthy ending for a "chapter of the book that started at wc3", or "if we are going to bring Arthas we have to do right" speech, is just dumbfounding, first the crown and now this, Danuser keep disrespecting wow lore.

Its funny how "let the name Arthas be forgotten" will turn upside down when they announce classic wotlk to milk that name out.

Can you really blame them when the dialogue has suffered for a long time now? It's lackluster in the grand scheme of the story but would've made for a good cinematic if it was accompanied by other good beats.

[Syegfryed]

Can you really blame them when the dialogue has suffered for a long time now? It's lackluster in the grand scheme of the story but would've made for a good cinematic if it was accompanied by other good beats.

I sure can, its was awful, all the story bits were bad to deliver a cringe rant of sylvanas.

It was supposed to be "anduin cinematic" but they not only copy a FF XIV cinematic, they quickly turn into sylvanas cinematic as soon as possible.

This reminds me Resident evil movies, where the directed just want to make his wife the protagonist.

[Edward Wu]

Sylvanas is truly one of a kind. I don't care for the story anymore but I have to give it up for them, intentionally or not, on creating such a loathsome and vile character.

Absolutely repulsive characterization.

[Ersula]

"She did nothing wrong."


She did, she sided with the Jailer and let herself be duped and sorta pushed Uther on to damn Arthas to the Maw not that it matters. Jailer loves to mess with his former heralds.

Im baffled that people think this cinematic was good.

Not that they liked, people have different tastes, but to think such bullshit was a good cinematic, a worthy ending for a "chapter of the book that started at wc3", or "if we are going to bring Arthas we have to do right" speech, is just dumbfounding, first the crown and now this, Danuser keep disrespecting wow lore.

Its funny how "let the name Arthas be forgotten" will turn upside down when they announce classic wotlk to milk that name out.

Even when we have a scene of Sylvanas actively acknowledging her wrongdoing that's not good enough for this audience. Wether it's just a complete rejection of the very obvious themes of the Arthas arc or people so deranged with hatred for sylvanas they're actually blaming Sylvanas for Uther throwing Arthas into the maw

[Syegfryed]

Even when we have a scene of Sylvanas actively acknowledging her wrongdoing that's not good enough for this audience. Wether it's just a complete rejection of the very obvious themes of the Arthas arc or people so deranged with hatred for sylvanas they're actually blaming Sylvanas for Uther throwing Arthas into the maw

Who fucking care about her "acknowledging her wrongdoing" obviously "acknowledging a crime" is not enough, "oh well, i became worse than Arthas, anyway...."

First of all, it was not even supposed to be her scene, she godamn hijacked it, second, its not even just that, she says she became arthas but attempt a moral highground like she have any right to say any shit about it lmao, not only that, she rob the scene of other people who should say something instead of her.

People hate it because Danuser is shoving her in every cinematic he can, its like the director of resident evil making her wife the protagonist lol,
its a shit story that is going to end as the worst wow stoyryline ever,

[ChairmanKaga]

I was expecting Jaina or Uther to have the final say. You know, his former lover or mentor, but they barely gave a fuck.

Literally, why? Arthas has been gone for 15ish years. Uther's entire story in SL is about him coming to terms with his failure of Arthas. Jaina has no reason to be pining over her old boyfriend from WC3. You wanted both these characters to actually be worse.

[Vakir]

Seems like some people need to play the Alliance campaign in BfA. Jaina still had massive issues she was working through, and Arthas was a big part of it.

None of it is coming from a place of honesty. The stalwart holdouts were going to like it and make justifications of it regardless of quality, while accusing anyone disappointed of being "haters," conveniently ignoring all the times those same people once liked something.

[Revamp Man]

Ok I love the fact this cinematic was the moment Anduin finally used Shalamayne and split it

I mean Tyrion could do it at will after his whole being split in two then coming together thing and Saurfang used it when he finally confronted Sylvanas and showed her how she failed then we have now where Anduin realizes he’s not just a weakling anymore.

Sylvanas definitely should have just sat there in awkward silence though

[huth]

"She did nothing wrong."


She did, she sided with the Jailer and let herself be duped and sorta pushed Uther on to damn Arthas to the Maw not that it matters. Jailer loves to mess with his former heralds.

She also did literally everything she accused Kyrestia of. She was a massive hypocrite.

It's not like that's even particularly unrealistic, either. We had plenty of examples of politicians doing that in recent years, and they tend to be the more warmongering sort as well.

[ExiHext]

Im baffled that people think this cinematic was good.

Just as baffled as I am that people cannot for the love of god accept differing opinions. Who are you to decide what's good and what's not other than for yourself?

[BaumanKing]

Im baffled that people think this cinematic was good.

It's simple. Some people have good taste, some don't. And for others, wow is like a religion now, and they will blindly defend it no matter what.

[Hitei]

Literally, why? Arthas has been gone for 15ish years. Uther's entire story in SL is about him coming to terms with his failure of Arthas. Jaina has no reason to be pining over her old boyfriend from WC3. You wanted both these characters to actually be worse.

It's nuts how people whine about the writing but then constantly suggest significantly worse alternatives.

"What do you mean Jaina is more worried about her pseudo nephew who just nearly exploded after being brainwashed than she is about her exboyfriend turned murderer from two decades ago dying for the third time!?! She should be sobbing and talking about all her memories of him!"

[Makorus]

It's nuts how people whine about the writing but then constantly suggest significantly worse alternatives.

"What do you mean Jaina is more worried about her pseudo nephew who just nearly exploded after being brainwashed than she is about her exboyfriend turned murderer from two decades ago dying for the third time!?! She should be sobbing and talking about all her memories of him!"

The WoW community thinking they are able to write something better than the WoW writers while simultaneously suggesting the most idiotic things ever has been a running theme for a few expansions now.

[ExiHext]

It's simple. Some people have good taste, some don't. And for others, wow is like a religion now, and they will blindly defend it no matter what.

Yea, it's almost the same with this wow bashing religion, they will bash, no matter what. Just blind fanaticism.

[Divada]

Towelliee saying 10.0 is all Danusers baby... *shudders*

The good thing about that is if 10.0 is a disaster then no one else can be blamed, it's all on him. I don't want 10.0 to be a disaster by the way but if it is then at least there will probably be actual consequences this time instead of constant deflection.

[Nyel]

The WoW community thinking they are able to write something better than the WoW writers while simultaneously suggesting the most idiotic things ever has been a running theme for a few expansions now.

If you're just looking at the worst ideas, yes. But there are good, great examples that totally exceed what the WoW writing team is capable of. Don't mix the good ones with the bad ones, even if the ratio is 1:10 for the bad ones.

[username993720]

*video*

Is there a character they're not gonna get rid of?
Arthas... Garrosh... the Helm of Domination... oh yeah, Sylvanas.

[Kiria]

It's simple. Some people have good taste, some don't. And for others, wow is like a religion now, and they will blindly defend it no matter what.

I don't even play wow retail and I thought the cinematic was good, people just want to whinge hate and moan for the sake of it.