Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Revamp Man]

The Aspects were empowered by the Titan Keepers / Watchers, not the Titans. I think that's a rather important difference, the Aspects never interacted with the Titans directly.

near them two more hooded figures materialized and they raised their hands. He also suddenly sensed that there was another greater presence acting through the keepers, that presence being the true force bringing about the coming transformation, the titans. "It is happening" the blue dragon thought. "The titans are overseeing this transformation."

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also galakrond is weird
apparently he ate so much he mutated then when he started eating proto drakes they came out as zombies
and just being near his bones was enough to corrupt a magical item

I hope blizz doesnt burn this guy in an unrelated patch

[Cosmic Janitor]

also galakrond is weird
apparently he ate so much he mutated then when he started eating proto drakes they came out as zombies
and just being near his bones was enough to corrupt a magical item

I hope blizz doesnt burn this guy in an unrelated patch

The guy is so massive, dealing with him is the kind of fight that would only happen in cut scenes anyway.

[TheFirstOnes]

duuuuuuude

chromatus
resurrected galakrond
infinite flight
void flight

boys we got our villains for 10.0

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also galakrond is freaking massive to the point death wing is a whelp to him

I WANT THIS!!!!!!

Galakrond would prolly be as big as MoD Deathwing at the end of Dragon Soul. I think he’ll be a boss in the 9.2 raid.

Also, my assumption on the villains for 10.0:

Chromatus, Infinite Flight, and Chromatic Flight

Yrel and Lothraxion plus the “Dark Alliance”, consisting of the Scarlet Crusade, the Lightbound, and the Army of the Light.

Sargeras for a mini raid at the Seat of the Pantheon plus Realm of Order.

A Void raid in between.

And the Void Lords as the final foe.

The Light and Shadow conflict could be a 2 separate expansion factor however.

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The Aspects were empowered by the Titan Keepers / Watchers, not the Titans. I think that's a rather important difference, the Aspects never interacted with the Titans directly.

Yes and no. The Titans more so indirectly empowered them by gifting the keepers their blessing to provide the Protodrakes with.

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Chromatus better not be forgotten, he was somewhat interesting. Also that infinite dragon in the new 9.1 dungeon...


Come on.......he's a literal foreshadowing boss.

Battling a Tiamat would be the perfect starter boss for a Light/Void Expac raid tier.

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More like underused, you don't see dragons all that much these days or anything Fantasy related out there. Dragons haven't been used much at all in Warcraft. You being bored of them is a you problem not...a dragon problem. Like they've only been slightly related and somehow they bore you, its kinda absurd.

They’re underused in modern WoW, yes. Old WoW however? Nahhhhh

[Revamp Man]

Galakrond would prolly be as big as MoD Deathwing at the end of Dragon Soul. I think he’ll be a boss in the 9.2 raid.

Also, my assumption on the villains for 10.0:

Chromatus, Infinite Flight, and Chromatic Flight

Yrel and Lothraxion plus the “Dark Alliance”, consisting of the Scarlet Crusade, the Lightbound, and the Army of the Light.

Sargeras for a mini raid at the Seat of the Pantheon plus Realm of Order.

A Void raid in between.

And the Void Lords as the final foe.

The Light and Shadow conflict could be a 2 separate expansion factor however.

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Yes and no. The Titans more so indirectly empowered them by gifting the keepers their blessing to provide the Protodrakes with.

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Battling a Tiamat would be the perfect starter boss for a Light/Void Expac raid tier.

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They’re underused in modern WoW, yes. Old WoW however? Nahhhhh

personally the light and void thing seemed like a tiny story thing in a few moments in game
in terms of void lords we have no clue about any of them in game
we arent tools of the light and the army of light is busy finishing off the legion while yrel is in the AU
the infinite dragonflight is kinda weird in that they dont really serve the void or anyone else and are just interested in destroying the main timeline

i dont see the themes mixing together but i could be wrong lol

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

in terms of void lords we have no clue about any of them in game

Dimensius, while being just a quest mob, is officially a Void Lord.

[Revamp Man]

Dimensius, while being just a quest mob, is officially a Void Lord.

what i mean is we dont know anything they have in terms of their motivations to deal with azeroth

[Sondrelk]

what i mean is we dont know anything they have in terms of their motivations to deal with azeroth

Their motivations is to corrupt the world soul. The entire thing about old gods is that they were sent randomly, if the void lord's figured out about Azeroth then they would likely send more old gods or possibly even have already formed old gods travel there with the end goal of either simply corrupting the world soul or trying to get the void lord's through a portal to corrupt it directly.

[Revamp Man]

Their motivations is to corrupt the world soul. The entire thing about old gods is that they were sent randomly, if the void lord's figured out about Azeroth then they would likely send more old gods or possibly even have already formed old gods travel there with the end goal of either simply corrupting the world soul or trying to get the void lord's through a portal to corrupt it directly.

according to what the dreadlords told sargeras their goal is to corrupt titan souls yes but that cant be trusted

[Sondrelk]

according to what the dreadlords told sargeras their goal is to corrupt titan souls yes but that cant be trusted

I can't see what else it could be.

Best option I can see in that case is the old gods being opposed to the void lord's somehow.

[Revamp Man]

I can't see what else it could be.

Best option I can see in that case is the old gods being opposed to the void lord's somehow.

I mean we don’t know what the results of old gods corrupting a titan soul is

Closest thing was the background in the legion star auger fight

It could be that the void lords are looking to assimilate all of reality and that titan souls are a key or they are completely unknown

[TheFirstOnes]

I mean we don’t know what the results of old gods corrupting a titan soul is

Closest thing was the background in the legion star auger fight

It could be that the void lords are looking to assimilate all of reality and that titan souls are a key or they are completely unknown

What you said here is literally the goal of the Void Lords, though. Hence why the need the Old Gods to begin with.

The Titans are the only cosmic pantheon to hold power over reality, hence why the Void Lords want to corrupt one so badly.

The Jailer prolly wants to extract Azeroth’s power for himself or turn her into a Mawsworn...or both. Either way, unlike the Void, the Jailer’s got the keys in order to invade the Great Dark by the end of 9.1. The Void Lords don’t have sigils, or any type of fancy shit like that. Hence, world soul corrupting.

Quick reminder that N’Zoth essentially furthers the case that the Old Gods are just extensions of the Void Lords’ will. Oh, and Il’gynoth also furthers this aswell.

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Dimensius, while being just a quest mob, is officially a Void Lord.

Weakened asf Void Lord, but yes.

[Raetary]

The Aspects were empowered by the Titan Keepers / Watchers, not the Titans. I think that's a rather important difference, the Aspects never interacted with the Titans directly.

The titans empowered them.

The keepers only acted as conduits for their power.

[Kiivar86]

What if Chromatus simply absorbs Ultraxion's corpse and grows a 6th head representing Twilight?

And with that, I'm fucking on board, there!

Sign me the hell up and forget I said anything about Chromatus not working out, that works for me perfectly.

[Makabreska]

Ok, that was actually decently funny. That Rendel guy that repairs gear in Nathria lobby appears in 9.1 as a guy rich from all that repair gold.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/castle-...a-daily-322458

[Sondrelk]

Rendle being rich is pretty hilarious. Would be great if he keeps being the repair guy throughout, amassing more and more gold as he goes, maybe getting someone else to start repairing for him at some point.

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At a risk of sounding whiny, does anyone else wonder if the reason why SL and in a sense WoD felt so off is because they are so disconnected from Azeroth?
We spend all our time in this expansion in the Shadowlands, we only rarely go back to Azeroth for anything, and when we do (for me at least) it feels like a breath of fresh air in comparision to more time spent in the Shadowlands.

Again, not because the Shadowlands zones are terrible or anything, but compared to Legion and BfA we have a stronger connection to actually being on Azeroth, not in a diferent dimension or plane of reality.
I wonder further if this is why I always felt that the Shadowlands should have been a patch, and why I thought Argus would had been terrible as an entire expansion. That there might be a limit on how long the average player can feel connected to WoW with the added filter of not even being on Azeroth like we usually are.

Specifically this thought came to me as I decided to take the short trip back to Stormwind and immediately felt reinvigorated towards the game when I heard the Stormwind theme and heard the night ambience.

[TheFirstOnes]

Damn, it’s almost like not everything in WoW is tied to fuckin Azeroth.

[Revamp Man]

Rendle being rich is pretty hilarious. Would be great if he keeps being the repair guy throughout, amassing more and more gold as he goes, maybe getting someone else to start repairing for him at some point.

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At a risk of sounding whiny, does anyone else wonder if the reason why SL and in a sense WoD felt so off is because they are so disconnected from Azeroth?
We spend all our time in this expansion in the Shadowlands, we only rarely go back to Azeroth for anything, and when we do (for me at least) it feels like a breath of fresh air in comparision to more time spent in the Shadowlands.

Again, not because the Shadowlands zones are terrible or anything, but compared to Legion and BfA we have a stronger connection to actually being on Azeroth, not in a diferent dimension or plane of reality.
I wonder further if this is why I always felt that the Shadowlands should have been a patch, and why I thought Argus would had been terrible as an entire expansion. That there might be a limit on how long the average player can feel connected to WoW with the added filter of not even being on Azeroth like we usually are.

Specifically this thought came to me as I decided to take the short trip back to Stormwind and immediately felt reinvigorated towards the game when I heard the Stormwind theme and heard the night ambience.

give me an expansion with remade zones but using zidormi for the phasing of it (literally if they had that in cata i think players would have enjoyed it)

[Sondrelk]

Damn, it’s almost like not everything in WoW is tied to fuckin Azeroth.

Yes, but is extended time spent away from the familier location fo Azeroth detrimental to player engagement, even if just subconsciously?

If you think I am wrong you are free to give examples of why you think that is so, I do genuinely wonder whether it is just a problem I have specifically with Shadowlands or whether others share this niggle.

[Makabreska]

Yes, but is extended time spent away from the familier location fo Azeroth detrimental to player engagement, even if just subconsciously?

If you think I am wrong you are free to give examples of why you think that is so, I do genuinely wonder whether it is just a problem I have specifically with Shadowlands or whether others share this niggle.

Wewt, that was a wild theory over there. What about BC, then?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Yes, but is extended time spent away from the familier location fo Azeroth detrimental to player engagement, even if just subconsciously?

If you think I am wrong you are free to give examples of why you think that is so, I do genuinely wonder whether it is just a problem I have specifically with Shadowlands or whether others share this niggle.

Its a very dumb thing and very superficial felling. Somehow being in a different realm doesn't make your immersion worse. Most people didn't give a damn that we were in Outland during BC or hardly mentioned any "I feel disconnected." Yeah we aren't actively on Azeroth but the problems of the Shadowlands are bleeding onto our home and well if we don't deal with those problems it will eventually hit home. Any investment you don't feel is of your own thoughts.