Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Syegfryed]

I remember when we went from Cataclysm to MoP, i was so exciting seeing the new talent system, the effects of the spells etc. I haven't been excited about WoW since. (Might be due the fact i been playing for so long) but MoP really had that game changing changes. Made me wanna play the game, made me be upset that i didn't had beta.

Nowadays each expansion are same and just powered based. There is no fun in that at all. Especially now a mission table is called a feature and just taken over from last expansion.

MoP had everything, even new capitals for us to hang in. I remember them pumping out new patches quite fast and they were quite some quality patches.

i didn't even buy mop until middle/end expansion and had more fun than bfa and shadowlands together, lol; Even going back to play as old content was engaging enough, i remember going back to isle of thunder to get the warlock tome( green fire quest, more points to mop) and was nice.

People shit on the dailies, but most of then were fine, the Order of the Cloud Serpent was cool and you train your dragon, did those shits 3 times for each mount.

also i liked much more the new talent system, especially on my warlock at that time, had some rly cool game changing mechanics, like the row with kil'jaden, archimonde and manoroth talents.

[LalaGamer]

Any good leaks for 10.0 or every thing just in a nutshell ??

[Nightshade711]

Any good leaks for 10.0 or every thing just in a nutshell ??

There’s not really any good leaks this time around.
Most feel like fan fictions.

General consensus is dragon/dragon isles expansion with a new class and/or race.

[Nyel]

I fear classic wrath will be plagued by the same issues as its original incarnation, namely that it has massive hype initially, but the base offering is rather substandard and people quickly dropped out. It then peaks once massively during ulduar, completely crashes during AT and it's trash tier raid and then has a somewhat decent slow burn towards the end. While wrath was the expansion in which the game peaked, it was also the expansion where its momentum reversed; if we are objective about the graph. It was the expansion that no longer could keep people around and let's be real here, classic is pretty much the epitome of raid-logging anyway, since the game has been solved 15 years ago. This already became even more apparent during BC and Wrath will show this even stronger, since they made it alot more accessible than vanilla and BC. Edit: Not to mention this time alot more people did Naxx compared to "the olden days" where it was pretty much still a mystery to many, even by the end of sunwell.

I think in case of WotLK Classic none of the issues matter. You‘re right as those have been the issues back in 2008/09, but WotLK Classic will all be about making a TON of cash right at launch with overpriced packages and bundles. The same as TBC. And alone due to how popular WotLK was and to this day still is, that’s where the money lies. I know a lot of people who stopped right after WotLK and will come back just for that experience. I personally never felt WotLK was that great honestly. The new class was amazing and Ulduar to this day might be the best WoW raid, but the expansion itself was very boring in my eyes.

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I think Wotlk Classic will have hype initially but I think it will die down pretty fast and expose a lot of people to the glaring problems with that expansion, 2 of the worst raid tiers of all time. Naxx will be especially bad now considering a lot of people who played Classic actually got to do Naxx (which wasn't necessarily the case in original Wotlk) so people will have to spend months doing a boring raid they already did before. Ulduar and ICC will probably bring some hype but you also got the god awful Trial of the Crusader sandwiched in between.

I agree with everything you said, but see my comment above. None of these issues matter when Blizz makes a ton of cash from initial sales, which they undoubted will alone due to nostalgia.

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My initial point about this shouldn’t be missed as it’s important for context: 10.0 is the last expansion they can fail with due to how popular WotLK is. And if 10.0 is as ambitious as Shadowlands or BfA, which was discussed as a possibility, WotLK can counter that backlash pretty good. After WotLK Classic they have no jokers up their sleeves anymore. So while I don’t expect 10.0 to be just mediocre, they could do it due to WotLK Classic. For 11.0 it wouldn’t work anymore and they (=WoW) would go down with yet another lackluster expansion.

[Hyrja]

There will be a lot of hype once limit/echo are on the last boss during the rwf and im sure Blizzard will have something to share shortly after the jailer is dead and the end cinematic is out

[Raetary]

I agree, no more allied races. Add 1 more neutral race, and expand current races customization. A class is a must for me to be truly hyped.

Ye, i wouldn't mind a Drakonid addition in a worgen like manner (transformation ability), as to still heavily tie them to the existing races.

[Polybius]

There will be a lot of hype once limit/echo are on the last boss during the rwf and im sure Blizzard will have something to share shortly after the jailer is dead and the end cinematic is out

Cinematic will also be out on Heroic, so it'll be out sooner. Unless they tease something through the Mythic only fight. I imagine it'll be broken since it wasn't tested in public.

[Makabreska]

Cinematic will also be out on Heroic, so it'll be out sooner. Unless they tease something through the Mythic only fight. I imagine it'll be broken since it wasn't tested in public.

It will be also on normal. There are guilds going for WF normal out there who should get it way before HC raid is cleared, which could take some time.

[Makorus]

I mean, Blizz released the Anduin cinematic before the raid was cleared, so we might not even have to wait that long.

[Civciv]

I mean, Blizz released the Anduin cinematic before the raid was cleared, so we might not even have to wait that long.

What? I don't think thats true.

[username993720]

Because the devs have repeatedly told the audience, directly & indirectly, that Dark Rangers are just undead Hunters. This element is unambiguous: Dark Rangers just aren't unique enough to warrant their own class: But they're more coy about the addition of an undead elf race. Seems to suggest its something they've been planning on adding, but say, not until Sylvanas' big arc(tm) is concluded?

Where are you getting this information from?

Yeah there's no reason to think we can't get a new class AND new allied races. Remember Pandaria?

It wouldn't stop there. There are many more races to be added. A class with a race usually go together, which isn't the case with allied races.

I don't believe they would, but after giving it some more thought, they probably should. At the VERY LEAST they should remove requirements for allied races. I personally know people who have never unlocked any of them because they don't want to go through the process of unlocking them. Personally, i felt that putting Kul'tirans and Zandalari behind the allied race wall was a cheap tactic. Those races at the very least should have been available from expansion purchase alone.

Like i say. You flip fast...

Or Dragon Isles. The Broken Isles were connected.

Any Isles?
Channel Islands?
Darkspear Islands?

[Makorus]

What? I don't think thats true.

I am fairly sure it got released before any guild got a Normal kill, but then again, I can't find when the first normal kill happened because it's not something people post around.

WoWhead posted the cinematic 3 hours after their "server is up" post, so eh.

[Polybius]

It will be also on normal. There are guilds going for WF normal out there who should get it way before HC raid is cleared, which could take some time.

True, true. Here's hoping it's not bugged and servers don't require prolonged maintenance.

It's possible the cinematic won't show much and we'll have to wait for the 9.2.5 epilogue.

[Shadochi]

I am fairly sure it got released before any guild got a Normal kill, but then again, I can't find when the first normal kill happened because it's not something people post around.

WoWhead posted the cinematic 3 hours after their "server is up" post, so eh.

Not true, the unlisted video link got posted on wowhead only after the first kill (was following the stream)

[Teriz]

Any good leaks for 10.0 or every thing just in a nutshell ??

The Empire of Dragons logo remains the top leak.

[Makabreska]

I am fairly sure it got released before any guild got a Normal kill, but then again, I can't find when the first normal kill happened because it's not something people post around.

WoWhead posted the cinematic 3 hours after their "server is up" post, so eh.

Unless there was some other guild, the cinematic was released the moment Tettles guild killed him (and auto skipped the cinematic lel).

[Vakir]

I am fairly sure it got released before any guild got a Normal kill, but then again, I can't find when the first normal kill happened because it's not something people post around.

WoWhead posted the cinematic 3 hours after their "server is up" post, so eh.

Someone got a kill, DBM just autoskipped it.

They pretty much always wait for a kill as far as I can recall.

Edit: whoops, there, above

[Grimbold21]

I didn't even state my take. I quite like MoP but I'm not going to try to convince anybody it's 10x better than every other expansion.

Nor did that person try to convince anyone of that. He stated his personal preference, and someone else replied with a depreciative comment.

You chose to endorse the latter.

[Hitei]

you talk like today isn't garbage, lmao

It's better than MoP.

[Raetary]

I mean, Blizz released the Anduin cinematic before the raid was cleared, so we might not even have to wait that long.

They did not, tettles cleared it:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1412193386

They don't post the raid cinematics until someone unlocks it.