Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Tbh, expect NOTHING 10.0 related from the tommorows's cinematic. Especially after the recent announcement.

don't expect anything at all from tomorrow's cinematic. it will be absolute trash

[Izalla]

I'm increasingly convinced that the Jailer cinematic is going to end with a stinger of the World Soul is dying...again. Which, if my math is right (and not counting Cataclysm because that's never come up again since Cataclysm so I'm pretty sure it was retconned) would be her third "the world soul is dying" moment. You know, if you put stock in whispers.

The Jailer resets the planet (or we do while defeating him rather) and it resets things back to the days when all the Old Gods roamed free unhindered except by each other hahah

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

They aren't dropping a cinematic tomorrow for the expansion lol.

Jailer defeat cinematic drops though. And I'm confident plenty of people are going to tailor leaks to what's shown in that cinematic no matter how small it may seem.

Nobody wants to leak today that the Jailer wakens the World Soul and then we find out tomorrow he doesn't after all.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

The Jailer resets the planet (or we do while defeating him rather) and it resets things back to the days when all the Old Gods roamed free unhindered except by each other hahah

All I can say to that is "Pain."

Please no reset, please at least pretend to have an original idea left in that building Blizzard.

[Triceron]

Well look, the Awakenings leak predicted Cross faction play in THIS expansion;

Does it matter? This was already proven fake. It's also not 'Cross factions', it says 'United faction' which is not a term being used at all in WoW, not even by Blizzard.

Therewillbedragon's rumor is quite different if you compare it to the other 'Cross Faction leaks' we've had. Most either use a different name, or state that it works broadly through any/all types of gameplay. Few to none have ever been specific enough to say it works through the Dungeon Finder.

[Revamp Man]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...9#post53569589

Check his post history for the rest. I mean he even teased the announcement that came today with a post yesterday, so even if it's fake, he's damn convincing.

Keep in mind we had a guy guess 8.2 raid ending, 8.2.5, and 8.3 before

[Triceron]

Keep in mind we had a guy guess 8.2 raid ending, 8.2.5, and 8.3 before

Same guy predicted all 3?

[Teriz]

Does it matter? This was already proven fake. It's also not 'Cross factions', it says 'United faction' which is not a term being used at all in WoW, not even by Blizzard.

Therewillbedragon's rumor is quite different if you compare it to the other 'Cross Faction leaks' we've had. Most either use a different name, or state that it works broadly through any/all types of gameplay. Few to none have ever been specific enough to say it works through the Dungeon Finder.

So you're dismissing it because it says United Factions instead of Cross Faction when it means the same thing? Meanwhile, you believe a leak that said we're not getting cross faction play until the next expansion?

Also, the Awakenings leak probably got WotLK classic's release date correct, and if we look at what's happening as Shadowlands wraps up, something massive is going to happen, so a "New Azeroth" is certainly possible. In addition, Blizzard has been looking into redoing the profession systems. A hiring call recently went out for designers who want to work on updating WoW's profession system. So a reforged profession system is also likely next expansion.

The point is, saying that a leak is viable because it got a little tidbit correct is ridiculous.

[Triceron]

So you're dismissing it because it says United Factions instead of Cross Faction when it means the same thing? Meanwhile, you believe a leak that said we're not getting cross faction play until the next expansion?

Also, the Awakenings leak probably got WotLK classic's release date correct, and if we look at what's happening as Shadowlands wraps up, something massive is going to happen, so a "New Azeroth" is certainly possible. In addition, Blizzard has been looking into redoing the profession systems. A hiring call recently went out for designers who want to work on updating WoW's profession system. So a reforged profession system is also likely next expansion.

I'm dismissing it because it got more wrong than it got right. We know it's fake.

I'm honestly not sure why you're still talking about it. If you thought it was compelling back then, then sure you have to the right to believe things that are too good to be true are more compelling than another that has some of its information confirmed. Good for you dude.

[Teriz]

You just don't want anything without Tinkers to be a legitimate leak

False. I don't want an expansion with no new race, no new class, and pretty much a retread of the last two expansions to be a legitimate leak.

[Feitori]

Well look, the Awakenings leak predicted Cross faction play in THIS expansion;

Yo, you got a link for the full thing, chief?

[Teriz]

I'm dismissing it because it got more wrong than it got right. We know it's fake.

I'm honestly not sure why you're still talking about it. If you thought it was compelling back then, then sure you have to the right to believe things that are too good to be true are more compelling than another that has some of its information confirmed. Good for you dude.

I'm still talking about it because you're basing the idea of no new classes and no new races on a leak that also got more wrong than correct.

Yo, you got a link for the full thing, chief?

I'm pretty sure that image is all there was to that leak.

[Triceron]

False. I don't want an expansion with no new race, no new class, and pretty much a retread of the last two expansions to be a legitimate leak.

That's the difference though.

I didn't say most appealing rumor, I said most compelling rumor. And the compelling one is the one that gets information right and could likely be true. It's not the most appealing rumor, that would be Tinkers of Tinkeria, where Azeroth is actually a transforming Mech like Unicron and everyone will have their own Space ship to fight the evil, space-faring undead Decrepticons.

[Kiria]

I'm dismissing it because it got more wrong than it got right. We know it's fake.

I'm honestly not sure why you're still talking about it. If you thought it was compelling back then, then sure you have to the right to believe things that are too good to be true are more compelling than another that has some of its information confirmed. Good for you dude.

Its because it mentions tinkers he will fight tooth and nail for it to be true.

[Triceron]

Its because it mentions tinkers he will fight tooth and nail for it to be true.

Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug :P

It's kinda funny though since I haven't seen this much defensiveness since the Legion rumors with Demon Hunters being playable. Those were good times.

[KainneAbsolute]

We defeat Zovaal, and its revealed the mark of Nzoth made us think we were the good guys.

[Teriz]

That's the difference though.

I didn't say most appealing rumor, I said most compelling rumor. And the compelling one is the one that gets information right and could likely be true. It's not the most appealing rumor, that would be Tinkers of Tinkeria, where Azeroth is actually a transforming Mech like Unicron and everyone will have their own Space ship to fight the evil, space-faring undead Decrepticons.

So a leak that says we're getting cross faction in 9.2 is less compelling than a leak that says we're getting cross factions in 10.0?

A leak that says that WotLK is coming in fall 2022 is less compelling than a leak that says that Hunters and Warlocks are getting a tank spec?

A leak that says that Azeroth is going to be fundamentally changed is less compelling than a leak that says we're going to the Draogn Isles?

C'mon dude.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

So you're dismissing it because it says United Factions instead of Cross Faction when it means the same thing? Meanwhile, you believe a leak that said we're not getting cross faction play until the next expansion?

Also, the Awakenings leak probably got WotLK classic's release date correct, and if we look at what's happening as Shadowlands wraps up, something massive is going to happen, so a "New Azeroth" is certainly possible. In addition, Blizzard has been looking into redoing the profession systems. A hiring call recently went out for designers who want to work on updating WoW's profession system. So a reforged profession system is also likely next expansion.

The point is, saying that a leak is viable because it got a little tidbit correct is ridiculous.

I hate to break it to you, but the name Awakenings was long ago debunked. It seems improbable that a name that was previously floated around so much would ever be used. However, they did get 9.2's name close (not entirely correct). It does seem very likely the creator was rather sharp and definitely perspicacious, but I doubt he actually was legitimate.

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So a leak that says we're getting cross faction in 9.2 is less compelling than a leak that says we're getting cross factions in 10.0?

A leak that says that WotLK is coming in fall 2022 is less compelling than a leak that says that Hunters and Warlocks are getting a tank spec?

A leak that says that Azeroth is going to be fundamentally changed is less compelling than a leak that says we're going to the Draogn Isles?

C'mon dude.

Admittedly, though, you are correct there. I still want to believe in Airships and Mechanics. However, I simply doubt it is true.

[Teriz]

I hate to break it to you, but the name Awakenings was long ago debunked. It seems improbable that a name that was previously floated around so much would ever be used. However, they did get 9.2's name close (not entirely correct). It does seem very likely the creator was rather sharp and definitely perspicacious, but I doubt he actually was legitimate.

I know it was debunked. My point is that you can't say a leak is legitimate because it gets some tidbits right and the vast majority wrong.

[Raetary]

So a leak that says we're getting cross faction in 9.2 is less compelling than a leak that says we're getting cross factions in 10.0?
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Yes, considering the leak that said we are getting CFP in 10.0 was on point about how CFP will actually work.